Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Krzysztof_O]

Best you can have is The Tadej Pogačar is the new Remco Evenepoel Thread

Just add the new Eddy Merckx in Pogacar's thread and let Eddy himself decide which one should stay this way.

 

[Oldermanish]

Just add the new Eddy Merckx in Pogacar's thread and let Eddy himself decide which one should stay this way.

you should also add "happy, non-whiney version of..." The guy makes watching him win or lose an enjoyable affair.

 

[Andre]

I'm not sure if I should feel glad or disillusioned about Remco coming in second place 10 seconds down.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'm not sure if I should feel glad or disillusioned about Remco coming in second place 10 seconds down.

Both Ganna and Pogacar got to overtake a slow rider that started earlier, that means you get draft for quite some time behind a team car. In a short TT that makes a big difference.

 

[greyclouds]

I'm not sure if I should feel glad or disillusioned about Remco coming in second place 10 seconds down.

Why should you feel any of those things? It was a solid good result for Remco. In normal condition he will rarely beat Ganna, which is normal and it doesn't say anything bad him. Pogacar a bit better than expected, but he tends to fluctuate his TT performances, and based on the weekend result he seems to be in pretty good form already.

 

[Big Doopie]

Both Ganna and Pogacar got to overtake a slow rider that started earlier, that means you get draft for quite some time behind a team car. In a short TT that makes a big difference.

hmm. I think u may be giving too much influence to that.

going out in the headwind Remco did better because he is so aero.

i don’t think there is any doubt that Pog is pretty untouchable at the moment. And, quite frankly, appears to still be progressing (normal for a 23 year old).

hard to see where Remco has an advantage other than being more aero which won’t help while climbing 6kms at 10%.

I truly hope I am wrong.

However, I am trying to satisfy myself with a competitive outing in TA. One where he can be one of the challengers and perhaps surprise.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

If Remco can finish Tirreno in top 5 of the GC the race is a big success. No one should expect him to challenge Pogacar.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

hmm. I think u may be giving too much influence to that.

I'm quite sure i'm not. Getting a draft for some hundreds of meters will give you a significant advantage. This only accounts for a handful of seconds, and in a long TT it usually doesn't come down to that, and all the top players get to overtake someone eventually. Here in a short TT it means some get to benefit and others don't, while gaps are small due to the short distance. In other words 5 or 10 seconds are a big deal. There is a thread about wind resistance and drafting, check it out. Also, watch a replay of last years Giro prologue, with some guys having a ''remarkable'' result, all having overtaken a slower rider.

 

[Salvarani]

I'm not sure if I should feel glad or disillusioned about Remco coming in second place 10 seconds down.

Very disappointing.

 

[Salvarani]

Just add the new Eddy Merckx in Pogacar's thread and let Eddy himself decide which one should stay this way.

Im quite sure by all reports that Eddy doesn’t like Remco at all, so that will be an easy decision for him. Not to mention the difference in palmares, as of now.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Very disappointing.

Agreed. He should find a different goal in life. First we find out he can't climb, now it turns out he can't TT either.

 

[AlfaLum]

I think the Italians deliberately put a weak rider in front of Ganna and not in front of Evenepoel. Otherwise Evenepoel would have crushed Ganna. Same goes for Padun.

 

[Riek s]

Actually his TT isn't that suprising. In the part with more headwind he keeps up with Ganna on a freaking flat course, and puts 10 seconds into Pogacar.

When it is tailwind, and aero becomes less important, but power is more dominant they pull away from him. This was also the case in previous flat TTs. His main attribute is low drag, not power. Ganna is moslty power with relative low drag. Pogacar is to much power for his size with a good, but not optimal position.

 

[Big Doopie]

Im quite sure by all reports that Eddy doesn’t like Remco at all, so that will be an easy decision for him. Not to mention the difference in palmares, as of now.

Eddy Merckx has proven to be an utter tool.

A horrendous prognosticator.

a blowhard.

And a dopologist.

No harm not having him as a “friend”.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I think the Italians deliberately put a weak rider in front of Ganna and not in front of Evenepoel. Otherwise Evenepoel would have crushed Ganna. Same goes for Padun.

Are you going to say science is BS? You think drafting is a figment of our imagination? Maybe the earth is flat?

 

[Salvarani]

Eddy Merckx has proven to be an utter tool.

A horrendous prognosticator.

a blowhard.

And a dopologist.

No harm not having him as a “friend”.

So says you!

Joking aside, probably not something Remco should worry about.

 

[AlfaLum]

Are you going to say science is BS? You think drafting is a figment of our imagination? Maybe the earth is flat?

No

Are you going to say science is BS? You think drafting is a figment of our imagination? Maybe the earth is flat?

No, in fact I agree with you that it was an advantage for both Ganna and Pogacar,

 

[Red Rick]

Expected a bit closer to Ganna but it is what it is.

 

[Lequack]

Remco trying to talk himself down. I think he has a good chance, he doesn't need to attack, just follow.

"I think the only way that I have to hope to beat him is if he has a really bad day and he doesn't recover from last Saturday," he said after noting that his eight-second advantage won't be enough to hold. "But he's such a strong and spectacular rider that he probably won't have a bad day this week.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/evenepoel-my-only-hope-at-tirreno-adriatico-is-if-pogacar-has-a-really-bad-day/

 

[Salvarani]

Expected a bit closer to Ganna but it is what it is.

Not living up to expectations so far.

 

[Lequack]

I think he's exceeding expectations if anything.

 

[AlfaLum]

Remco trying to talk himself down. I think he has a good chance, he doesn't need to attack, just follow.

"I think the only way that I have to hope to beat him is if he has a really bad day and he doesn't recover from last Saturday," he said after noting that his eight-second advantage won't be enough to hold. "But he's such a strong and spectacular rider that he probably won't have a bad day this week.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/evenepoel-my-only-hope-at-tirreno-adriatico-is-if-pogacar-has-a-really-bad-day/

I don’t think Remco is talking himself down. It’s realistic. Carpegna is the type of climb that Remco typically has problems with and Pogacar is the best rider in the world, especially for that type of climb.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

No, in fact I agree with you that it was an advantage for both Ganna and Pogacar,

 

[topt]

Agreed. He should find a different goal in life. First we find out he can't climb, now it turns out he can't TT either.

he can TT but sadly not climb; at least we know now where his advantage is coming from

 

[Big Doopie]

he can TT but sadly not climb; at least we know now where his advantage is coming from

you r funny.

and a happy troll.

he has shown that he can “climb” numerous times. And, of course you know that. Lol.

can he climb as well as Pog? No.

then again, who can? No one.

the problem is the constant comparison with Pog. It serves the haters of course.

however, the way I see it, this is an amazing age of rule defying champions:

WvA
VdP
Pog
Ala

i would put Rog in there but he’s not really the same generation and tho I admire him for his amazing sportsmanship I don’t think he quite matches the natural pizazz of those mentioned above.

now Remco has shown that he is certainly exciting in different ways than any of the above. Would it not be great if he can confirm that talent at the highest level? Just so that we can enjoy these amaaaaaaazing talents…(?)