Remco altitude training this July was 19 days. 8 days at top of passo San pellegrino, in dolomites, where Vincenzo often stayed between dauphine and TDF. And then about 11 days at Livigno where quickstep always does their July altitude camp. I don't think remco ever has done a camp in Pyrenees. Teide, Sierra nevada, livigno/San pellegrino and sincosfera in Denia are where he goes.
I’m talking about winning generally. As I said, this years edition will be much harder.
Is this a comedy thread??
I assume the poster means that Pogacar has come up short twice in a row VS Vingegaard now. So how much better than the level of this and especially last year can he realistically get? Where as Evenepoel is still unknown in a face off in july, is a year and a half younger, had a 1 year setback so could have more room to improve than Pogacar.
Anyone that would attempt to extrapolate Pogacar's performance at this years TdF to his chances next year are simply being disingenuous. He had VERY inadequate prep this year.
Which also means absolutely nothing in regards to Remco's chances in 2024.
Love the usual honest, informed, and straightforward assessment.
There is a bit of truth to it though. Part of the hype is that nobody really knows what he's worth against the best riders in the world right now, in their best shape. And apparently, neither does Evenepoel himself.
Sure, and that goes both ways. Where were Pog and Vingegaard during the WCC? Where was Vingegaard during LBL?
They were avoiding the clash with the mighty Evenepoel, by focusing on a small farmer's race like the Tour
Yup. It sounds like Danish media already proclaiming 2024 as Vingegaard's as well, despite the very obvious fact to anyone that Pogacar could train outside for 3-4 weeks. Lets see Jonas winning the Tour if you switch the preparation - wait, thats not going to happen.
In april, Vingegaard was following his strict training/living plan to win the Tour. Where he put 8+ minutes into everyone including a Pogacar stronger than in 2022 (yes, even taking into account la Loze, he has better numbers than previous years).
That's assuming Vingegaard had perfect prep last year, which (according to Dumoulin) isn't the case. And his trainer has said that with him it's a matter of not doing too much, because he gets in shape really quickly. Same goes for Pogacar, probably. I know that there's this narrative of Jumbo being like a couple of monks and Pogacar being this happy-go-lucky guy who does whatever he wants, but in reality they're probably not that dissimilar.
Luckily he won. Altough it was close.
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