Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

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Apparently they found out the mysterious person who was leaving graffiti all over the place

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It wasn't just the graffiti, i.e. what really happened is he painted that entire mural of himself overnight.
 
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One thing ASO badly needs to change is the points jersey points.

It is far too biased toward sprinters.

Go back to the format that worked. 2 intermediate sprints per day with 6-4-2 points and 35 for flat stages, 25 for medium mountain stages, 20 for mountain stages, and 15 points for TTs.

There is no way no how that Groves deserves the jersey over Remco. One who is fairly dominant in the mountains should have a chance, if he can score any points on the flat stages. I don't mind it being somewhat biased toward the sprinters, but the current points distribution is over the top
Vingegaard, Roglic and Kuss are at 4th 5th and 6th in the points competition.
 
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After 50 times, the quality of his moves at the finish start to diminish. He could at least use a blue dot on his jersey as a fit for his hands. Or maybe that was why he pointed to his head full of dots?
 
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and they are much further behind Remco and Groves than they should be, due to the overemphasis of flat stages
No, the green jersey has always been the sprinters GC at least until Zabel, Jalabert and Sagan gamed the system by taking points in medium mountain stages as well.
 
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No, the green jersey has always been the sprinters GC at least until Zabel, Jalabert and Sagan gamed the system by taking points in medium mountain stages as well.

not accurate

The Giro and Vuelta until very recently awarded equal points for every stage. The TDF made the change earlier due to Merckx dominating.

Take the 2011 Giro. Contador utterly dominated the points competition, despite being a total non sprinter. That was common until recnetly where in the giro and vuelta, the GC contenders also won the points
 
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not accurate

The Giro and Vuelta until very recently awarded equal points for every stage. The TDF made the change earlier due to Merckx dominating.

Take the 2011 Giro. Contador utterly dominated the points competition, despite being a total non sprinter. That was common until recnetly where in the giro and vuelta, the GC contenders also won the points
You’re right, but it’s better this way. Otherwise we’d just have the GC guys fighting for the jersey - but since they’ll be prioritizing the over-all lead, they won’t care about the points jersey. It’s the same problem that keeps happening to the mountains jersey at the Tour - it becomes a non-event. It’s much better as a battle between the sprinters/classics riders.
 
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You’re right, but it’s better this way. Otherwise we’d just have the GC guys fighting for the jersey - but since they’ll be prioritizing the over-all lead, they won’t care about the points jersey. It’s the same problem that keeps happening to the mountains jersey at the Tour - it becomes a non-event. It’s much better as a battle between the sprinters/classics riders.

except it is too biased toward the sprinters currently.

The pre Sagan distribution was best. Sprinters who cannot get over a cat 4 have no business contesting this jersey
 
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Let me clearly state that I really don't care how racers celebrate, but pointing at your head to indicate how smart/mentally strong you are certainly isn't may favorite.

Remco will do a lot of winning so he needs to plan some celebration in advance, maybe during the off-season (November). :D
An altitude camp for celebration practice. When he was pointing to his head so many times , i thought he was saying he had a thick skull which is kinda the opposite of intelligent and he did crash his noggin on stage 3 due to exuberance.
 
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except it is too biased toward the sprinters currently.

The pre Sagan distribution was best. Sprinters who cannot get over a cat 4 have no business contesting this jersey
It's just a bad competition overall, only worse one is the team GC.

I actually think combining them would be an improvement. Team Points competition --- award points based on top finisher of each team in each stage.