Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Red Rick]

Why the f is Remco wasting his time getting beaten in a TT this late in the season. Talk about stupid.

I will add "can't see the future" to the long list of things I intend to ridicule him for

 

[Elos Anjos]

I stated before that Remco (or anyother rider, for that matter) winning the RWC TT did not make him the best TTer of the world.

So now he got beat by the new kid monster in town. It doesn't mean he did not deserve the RWC TT title, but certainly adds perspective.

 

[Extinction]

I stated before that Remco (or anyother rider, for that matter) winning the RWC TT did not make him the best TTer of the world.

So now he got beat by the new kid monster in town. It doesn't mean he did not deserve the RWC TT title, but certainly adds perspective.

They are two completely different events. It's clear Remco didn't have the same form as Worlds, where he beat a certain Ganna who said his numbers were tops and who holds the hour record. Please, enough with the nonesense.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

Why the f is Remco wasting his time getting beaten in a TT this late in the season. Talk about stupid.

If he had won, would it have been "Great to see Remco beating top class opposition in the ITT, so late in the season, what a guy!"?

 

[Elos Anjos]

They are two completely different events. It's clear Remco didn't have the same form as Worlds, where he beat a certain Ganna who said his numbers were tops and who holds the hour record. Please, enough with the nonesense.

Yes, but the same can be said for many TTers. They were not there or were but not with the best numbers.
I recommend also a bit more humility regarding who's writing nonsense.

 

[Netserk]

I stated before that Remco (or anyother rider, for that matter) winning the RWC TT did not make him the best TTer of the world.

So now he got beat by the new kid monster in town. It doesn't mean he did not deserve the RWC TT title, but certainly adds perspective.

The most important ITT of the year is always in the Tour.

 

[red_flanders]

Could you all please take this silly, now multi-page argument about the Tour, Velo D'Or, and who is the strongest to...I don't know...a thread where that was the topic? I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate it.

 

[RedheadDane]

Why the f is Remco wasting his time getting beaten in a TT this late in the season. Talk about stupid.

He's got this nice kit he probably wants to show off.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Could you all please take this silly, now multi-page argument about the Tour, Velo D'Or, and who is the strongest to...I don't know...a thread where that was the topic? I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate it.

I understand. But I think the analysis is also relevant for assessing and apreciating Remco in objective terms.

 

[Elos Anjos]

In the Tour of Flanders, and barely. It’s not like Pogacar is winning Roubaix

After RVV, MVDP and other stated that Pogi could win all monuments. So if you don't mind I take their word over yours.

 

[red_flanders]

I understand. But I think the analysis is also relevant for assessing and apreciating Remco in objective terms.

If Remco hasn't been mentioned in 2 pages I think it's safe to say the topic isn't Remco. Start a new thread about who's the strongest and include all the riders you want.

 

[Elos Anjos]

If Remco hasn't been mentioned in 2 pages I think it's safe to say the topic isn't Remco. Start a new thread about who's the strongest and include all the riders you want.

I didn't say the topic was about Remco, I stated it is and was relevant to assess any big engines like Remco that do not necessarily win GTs (for the moment or not, that was not the question).

It happens in every thread that the topic gets out of hand.

 

[RedheadDane]

If Remco hasn't been mentioned in 2 pages I think it's safe to say the topic isn't Remco. Start a new thread about who's the strongest and include all the riders you want.

So, did Extinction bring the topic back to Remco when he mentioned him just above?

 

[Berniece]

After RVV, MVDP and other stated that Pogi could win all monuments. So if you don't mind I take their word over yours.

Sure, let's see if he's able to win Roubaix in his career.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Sure, let's see if he's able to win Roubaix in his career.

You're confusing. WVA is perfectly capable of winning Paris-Roubaix but that of course doesn't mean he will.
What MVDP and others like Merckx, if I'm not mistaken, stated is that Pogi is capable of winning all monuments, not that he will manage to do it.

 

[Blanco]

You're only as good as you're last Grand Bouclé baby. When MVP can challenge for the Tour, then we can talk. Overall means climbing and TT power and, most importantly, you are not allowed to have a bad day in three weeks. The classics riders are children in comparison. I think it's fairly clear that being exceptionally good on one day, isn't the same as being capable of winning a three week bike race. The biggest freak is thus the Tour winner, because it's the biggest bicycle race in the world, but this is history, so I don't need to explain that. So if folks want to insist Pogacar is the biggest freak out there, when he gets his teeth kicked out at the Tour by Vingegaard, go ahead, but then there is reality.

Reality is that Pogacar, a two time Tour de France winner and five time monument winner is far above (aka the way bigger freak), then just a two time Tour de France winner.
And reality is that Mathieu Van Der Poel, winner of WC road race and 4 monuments, stands fairly above two time Tour de France winner in the all-time hierarchy.
Everything else is just illusion...

 

[Extinction]

Yes, but the same can be said for many TTers. They were not there or were but not with the best numbers.
I recommend also a bit more humility regarding who's writing nonsense.

WCTT is the one TT for which, like the Tour, everybody plans meticulously to be in the best possible condition. No excuses. Remco did so, fatally at the expense of his Vuelta prep. So, no, the same can't be said for today's event, which was an afterthought and frankly should never have been contested.

 

[yaco]

Why the f is Remco wasting his time getting beaten in a TT this late in the season. Talk about stupid.

Appearance fee.

 

[Red Rick]

Would be nice of people could go back to the topic of the thread.

I don't recall Evenepeol doing any celebrity boxing matches

 

[Blanco]

Hogwash! You are dreaming man. This would be true only if Pogacar didn't get whooped by Vingegaard twice or MVDP could actually climb.

You are dreaming. And it's a bad dream, wake up!
Tour is not everything.
And WC ITT is not the 2nd most important race in the world. It's not even 10th...

 

[Red Rick]

Would be nice of people could go back to the topic of the thread.

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[Skijumper Roglic fan]

I like it very much that the best riders, like Remco, Pog, Rog, and others nowadays ride their season until beginning or mid October.

There were times when the best TdF men basically ended their season at the end of July, or in August. And the next year, you had to wait until mid or end of March until they started their new season.

And nowadays the stars not only race from January/February until October; they show decent form all year long. Something which was sometimes different, when the best only got in shape in April.

A lot has improved, which is great. With the starts of Remco there, in recent times, Chrono des Nations gained massive attention, after it had become more and more ignored by the very best.

Remco IMHO showed a great performance, today. The thing probably is that Joshua Tarling has become already so strong that even Remco doesn’t beat him at any circumstances, any more. Great, and promises a lot for next year, when Remco will want to win CdN, again - he already won it at the juniors…

 

[AmRacer]

There were times when the best TdF men basically ended their season at the end of July, or in August

Vinge?

 

[Extinction]

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Remco idem! Brought my cancelled comment into the context of this thread, but let the censors have their day!

 

[Extinction]

Vinge?

Remco has yet even to ride the Tour, whereas Vinge was denied a chance to win the Vuelta.