Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Keldergoat]

Of course it was strange, it’s why everyone says he (and his DS) totally blew it and should’ve realized earlier that Roglic wasn’t the main competition.

Well, I guess we perfectly agree then. Onto the next epic battle between these two antagonists where I'm definitely going to tune in to Sporza to listen to de Cauwers commentary.

 

[Oldermanish]

If you watched the stage where Jorgenson gained a minute you could easily see that Skjelmose and McNulty “attacked” (Skjelmose himself said after the stage it wasnt really an attack, the group just let him go) on a flattish part and that Remco just looked around at the other riders in the group. This was a purely tactical question and Remco totally blew it, because he was looking at other riders and not just kept riding on. And who was he looking at do you think?


Of course it was strange, it’s why everyone says he (and his DS) totally blew it and should’ve realized earlier that Roglic wasn’t the main competition.

When a break with that talent has 15 seconds lead the alarm bells should have been loud. His DS should have just told him to go....Maybe that's why the QS management spoke of Roglic in those terms as it was as much their error as Remco's. You can't hang it all on him.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

When a break with that talent has 15 seconds lead the alarm bells should have been loud. His DS should have just told him to go....Maybe that's why the QS management spoke of Roglic in those terms as it was as much their error as Remco's. You can't hang it all on him.

I don’t hang it all on him, it’s both parties that are responsible (rider and people in the car) for the tactical failure. And they should’ve acted much, much faster.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

When a break with that talent has 15 seconds lead the alarm bells should have been loud. His DS should have just told him to go....Maybe that's why the QS management spoke of Roglic in those terms as it was as much their error as Remco's. You can't hang it all on him.

Like i said before, if it's a split second decision, it has to be the rider who makes the call. When it's a tactic that is taking more than 2 minutes, it's the team car that needs to step in and overrule him. There was no reason not to ride since it was at the end of the stage with no climbs ahead. But when the guy in the car is no more experienced than the guy on the bike, this happens.

But everybody has to be honest here, the moment Roglic attacked in stage 6, on Colle sur Loup, everybody thought "now it starts" and nobody thought "Ha, Roglic, what are you doing, you are not in good form, you are going to park in 300 meters".

 

[Karl Merckx]

I don't even know how you can think that De Cauwer meant anything else than this, it's pretty obvious.

Because Roglic was expected to be the man to beat, meaning he was the man to watch. It turned out he wasn't, which threw Evenepoel off, and had Jorgenson ride off. This is how he ruined it and this is exactly what De Cauwer means.

 

[Karl Merckx]

Can't remember who it was, a French rider, a few weeks ago, who said Vingegaard is much more liked in the peloton than Pogacar, because with Pogacar, what you see is fake.

It was Bryan Coquard. He didn't say that Pogi was fake, only that Vingegaard was more friendly.

 

[Gargamel35]

Vinge is absolute favourite for the next showdown between him and Remco/Roglič. He showed he can drop anyone right now and his TT is top notch when it matters.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

It was Bryan Coquard. He didn't say that Pogi was fake, only that Vingegaard was more friendly.

Yeah, i found it. He said: "Pogacar a l’air cool comme ça mais dans le peloton Vingegaard est plus sympa". I probably read more into it than needed.

 

[Andre]

Some images of his recon today

Spoiler

Is that a reckon for Le Tour?

 

[Berniece]

Is that a reckon for Le Tour?

Yes. Yesterday he did the final TT

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Is that a reckon for Le Tour?

2025 Ski world cup

 

[Andre]

Thanks for your interest, I'm half Dutch - half Flemish since my Mom is from Ingelmunster, but I grew up in the NL indeed. My West-Vlaams isn't at Lampaert's level but I can get along fine.

I doubt whether everyone expected it to be a two horse race. Read back the forum on Tuesday's stage or some well known twitter guru's on how underwhelming their performances were and how strong Skjelmose, McNulty and especially Jorgensen already looked and I can at least claim that Evenepoels overly thwarted focus on Roglic was strange.

would you rather be known as Flemish rather than Belgian? I'm not looking for an argument...just curious.

 

[red_flanders]

I don't even know how you can think that De Cauwer meant anything else than this, it's pretty obvious.

Rock solid username. Welcome!

 

[Wvv]

would you rather be known as Flemish rather than Belgian? I'm not looking for an argument...just curious.

Flemish says something about speaking Dutch, Belgian not necessarily. He probably meant it that way.

 

[Keldergoat]

would you rather be known as Flemish rather than Belgian? I'm not looking for an argument...just curious.

Definitely Dutch with Flemish/Belgian roots since I grew up around Rotterdam. But love for the Belgian culture is ingrained by my meter (grandma) in 'huize Keldergoat', hence my notorious fanaticism, bordering to hooliganism in cycling.

 

[Lequack]

I guess "the other" Remco thread is gone now.

 

[repre]

Why is he scared to race Sanremo? Could light up the race at Cipressa like nobody else

 

[Andre]

I guess "the other" Remco thread is gone now.

"the other"?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I guess "the other" Remco thread is gone now.

It is indeed: that was never going to be an asset to the forum.

 

[Andre]

Why is he scared to race Sanremo? Could light up the race at Cipressa like nobody else

It probably doesn't fit into scheduled program. I'm sure he'll race it one day

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Why is he scared to race Sanremo? Could light up the race at Cipressa like nobody else

Mohoric, Pidcock and other mad descenders?

 

[Lequack]

It probably doesn't fit into scheduled program. I'm sure he'll race it one day

I mean realistically it's like a half hour real effort, or max of one hour. Probably does more in training.

 

[repre]

Mohoric, Pidcock and other mad descenders?

He doesn't need to descend with them if he attack at Cipressa. He has no chance if he waits till Poggio

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

He doesn't need to descend with them if he attack at Cipressa. He has no chance if he waits till Poggio

He needs to have a gap before Poggio, that's the main issue here. In a pre-pandemic peloton i would have seen it possible for him to attack at the base of the Poggio, which are always doomed attempts for other riders. I don't think that's possible anymore. The problem is that this is kind of a joke of a race for over 200km, and that chances to get away (as a favorite) are extremely scarce. More over since fatigue in the peloton is extremely low.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

He doesn't need to descend with them if he attack at Cipressa. He has no chance if he waits till Poggio

I don't know the answer to this but in recent times who has gone clear at Cipressa and held the gap?