Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[AmRacer]

Jonas was at altitude camp in February. Itzulia is in April, he will not feel the effects of the altitude training camp he did in February.

When I post such things, it's meant to be ironical. Even without an emoji.

 

[Froome]

When I post such think, it's meant to be ironical. Even without an emoji.

Sorry, i own you an apologize. I wasn't familiar with your game!

 

[Valanga]

Jonas was at altitude camp in February. Itzulia is in April, he will not feel the effects of the altitude training camp he did in February.

Why did he go then? To win O Gran Camiño?

 

[Berniece]

Pogacar slowed down considerably towards the end, he had time to stop the session on his computer early so that Remco could keep the Strava KOM, and then he started to celebrate. While last year the three sprinted for the stage win.

He could easily have beaten Remco's last year time by at least a minute in much worse conditions if he wanted to.

And Remco could’ve focused on only riding to the top as quickly as possible instead of having to swerve and look behind for anyone to help.

Point is you can’t compare this besides just looking at the numbers.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

And Remco could’ve focused on only riding to the top as quickly as possible instead of having to swerve and look behind for anyone to help.

Point is you can’t compare this besides just looking at the numbers.

Maybe he should have focused on dropping his opponents like Pog did.

 

[Berniece]

Maybe he should have focused on dropping his opponents like Pog did.

Maybe Pog had easier opponents?

 

[Karl Merckx]

Jonas was at altitude camp in February. Itzulia is in April, he will not feel the effects of the altitude training camp he did in February.

The point of going to altitude isn't only the 2-3weeks hematocrit effect, but to get stronger in the long run too.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Maybe Pog had easier opponents?

It's hard to imagine a scenario where Pog would wave the white flag in front of someone like Ciccone.

 

[Berniece]

It's hard to imagine a scenario where Pog would wave the white flag in front of someone like Ciccone.

Who knows, if Ciccone did nothing the whole stage, and only had to sit in the wheel to then sprint.

But again, my whole point was that you can't just compare it, because it's heavily influenced by who is riding, and how the race went. There's no reason to diminish last year's climb.

 

[peterfin]

And Remco could’ve focused on only riding to the top as quickly as possible instead of having to swerve and look behind for anyone to help.

Point is you can’t compare this besides just looking at the numbers.

Indeed. And attacking early normally means a faster time if you are better than the pacing set in the group so it's not abnormal that Remco, Roglic and Ciccone were slower. Number comparisons between different races say nothing. We need them in the same race to compare them.

 

[Froome]

Indeed. And attacking early normally means a faster time if you are better than the pacing set in the group so it's not abnormal that Remco, Roglic and Ciccone were slower. Number comparisons between different races say nothing. We need them in the same race to compare them.

Remco and Roglic could had gone much faster but they played tatically each other, because they were climbing at the same level.

 

[red_flanders]

Please change the title back. It worked. This is (sorry) pretty silly.

 

[gregrowlerson]

All this talk about great style on a bike, and questions about weight.....are Landa and Evenepoel Klöden and Ullrich reincarnated?

A twenty year anniversary Tour results replication now please.

 

[AmRacer]

Amstel, Mathieu vs Remco.
Should be a good race to watch.

 

[Froome]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770877097319223558

View: https://twitter.com/allergy_al/status/1770877097319223558


Fair play to Remco. Really nice.

 

[Oldermanish]

The point of going to altitude isn't only the 2-3weeks hematocrit effect, but to get stronger in the long run too.

That sounds fairly straightforward. So if everyone does the same regime do they all stay strong in the same proportion?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Remco hasn't been at altitude camp yet so Jonas will win easily.

When I post such things, it's meant to be ironical. Even without an emoji.

That's too bad that you were being sarcastic (irony is something else) because you still keep acting as if going on altitude camp is some minor insignificant detail. It isn't. And unlike Froome here seems to think, yes obviously it matters a great deal or Visma would not be spending months on altitude camps in the winter, when no races are being ridden. It's not just about the effect that lasts a few weeks in which you perform better in races. The same goes for training, so you being able to handle more load during training without putting additional strain on the system, allows you to maximise your training output during build-up which will benefit you the rest of the season.

That sounds fairly straightforward. So if everyone does the same regime do they all stay strong in the same proportion?

Where did he say that? Talent does not just show in peak performance, but also in how much training you can absorb. More training makes you stronger, unless you are overshooting in which case you will get weaker (overtrain). For a mediocre cyclist, trying to do the same training as Pogacar or Evenepoel will not end well. Going on altitude also enhances that effect during training.

 

[AmRacer]

That's too bad that you were being sarcastic (irony is something else) because you still keep acting as if going on altitude camp is some minor insignificant detail. It isn't. And unlike Froome here seems to think, yes obviously it matters a great deal or Visma would not be spending months on altitude camps in the winter, when no races are being ridden. It's not just about the effect that lasts a few weeks in which you perform better in races. The same goes for training, so you being able to handle more load during training without putting additional strain on the system, allows you to maximise your training output during build-up which will benefit you the rest of the season.


Where did he say that? Talent does not just show in peak performance, but also in how much training you can absorb. More training makes you stronger, unless you are overshooting in which case you will get weaker (overtrain). For a mediocre cyclist, trying to do the same training as Pogacar or Evenepoel will not end well. Going on altitude also enhances that effect during training.

Has Pog and Vinge been at altitude camps?

 

[Berniece]

Has Pog and Vinge been at altitude camps?

Yes

 

[AmRacer]

Yes

So Remco is the only one not taking advantage of altitude camp.

 

[Berniece]

So Remco is the only one not taking advantage of altitude camp.

Of the big 6? At the moment yes. Although I’m not sure about MVDP.

Remco didn’t want to go on altitude and be away from home for that long. Mentally it does a lot for him to be close to his wife, in Calpe, so he decided to do that for the spring part of the season.

He’ll go on altitude before Dauphine.

 

[peterfin]

Doing altitude camps too often or more than 3-4 weeks continuous results in a loss of muscle mass. You need to have a scientific strategy with performance data tracking to find the sweat spot for each rider. I am sure Visma has this all worked out while other teams do more guess work.

 

[johnymax]

Of the big 6? At the moment yes. Although I’m not sure about MVDP.

Remco didn’t want to go on altitude and be away from home for that long. Mentally it does a lot for him to be close to his wife, in Calpe, so he decided to do that for the spring part of the season.

He’ll go on altitude before Dauphine.

Mentally weak.

 

[Berniece]

Mentally weak.

Sure…

 

[AmRacer]

Of the big 6? At the moment yes. Although I’m not sure about MVDP.

Remco didn’t want to go on altitude and be away from home for that long. Mentally it does a lot for him to be close to his wife, in Calpe, so he decided to do that for the spring part of the season.

He’ll go on altitude before Dauphine.

Big 6 and Jorgenson.
He should suffer mentally knowing his peers have prepared themselves better.