Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Saint Unix]

It's such minor race I just can't imagine many big names showing up there. Evenepoel should easily be one of the strongest guys there.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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It's such minor race I just can't imagine many big names showing up there. Evenepoel should easily be one of the strongest guys there.

Last year was the "first" edition, with Sosa, Ciccone, Conti... So difficult to predict.

 

[Nirvana]

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Will be very interesting to see what he does on Tre Cime di Lavaredo at Adriatica Ionica. Not the strongest of fields, so he should be able to light it up there.

They won't go up to Tre Cime, the finish will at the Lago di Misurina before the start of the hard part.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Stages and profiles are posted on the previous page.

It's such minor race I just can't imagine many big names showing up there. Evenepoel should easily be one of the strongest guys there.

Not the strongest of fields, so he should be able to light it up there.

A few interesting names have been added to the list:

Remco Evenepoel
James Knox
Ben Hermans
Hugh Carthy
Jan Polanc
Joe Dombrowski
Louis Meintjes
Fausto Masnada

 

[Bolder]

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Stages and profiles are posted on the previous page.

It's such minor race I just can't imagine many big names showing up there. Evenepoel should easily be one of the strongest guys there.

Not the strongest of fields, so he should be able to light it up there.

A few interesting names have been added to the list:

Remco Evenepoel
James Knox
Ben Hermans
Hugh Carthy
Jan Polanc
Joe Dombrowski
Louis Meintjes
Fausto Masnada

That's a pretty decent field, actually. Carthy and Masnada were awfully strong earlier this year. Hope it's on Eurosport -- I've only seen Remco race once, at the Belgian tour, and only at the end of the last 2 stages.

 

[Mayomaniac]

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Stages and profiles are posted on the previous page.

It's such minor race I just can't imagine many big names showing up there. Evenepoel should easily be one of the strongest guys there.

Not the strongest of fields, so he should be able to light it up there.

A few interesting names have been added to the list:

Remco Evenepoel
James Knox
Ben Hermans
Hugh Carthy
Jan Polanc
Joe Dombrowski
Louis Meintjes
Fausto Masnada

Carboni will be the leader for Bardiani, it's one of his big goals. He recently finished 6th on the gc in Occitanie, ahead of Dombrowski and Sivakov.
The field should be decent, I'll be there to watch the MTF.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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Carboni will be the leader for Bardiani, it's one of his big goals. He recently finished 6th on the gc in Occitanie, ahead of Dombrowski and Sivakov.
The field should be decent, I'll be there to watch the MTF.

Interesting. He hasn't been added to the startlist on PCS (and frankly, i don't know him too well to judge).

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/adriatica-ionica-race/2019/gc/startlist

That's a pretty decent field, actually. Carthy and Masnada were awfully strong earlier this year. Hope it's on Eurosport -- I've only seen Remco race once, at the Belgian tour, and only at the end of the last 2 stages.

As you can see in the link, the startlist is maybe only 10% complete and the field is already decent.

If you haven't seen him race other than the Ardennes stage in the BBT, you can find lots online if you want. The best parts of Remco so far: WC junior RR is on UCI's youtube channel (especially entertaining after the crash). There will be recaps of the stage in the Belgium Tour where he takes the blue jersey (with Campenaerts crashing). The Hammer Climb stage is also on youtube i think and also entertaining.

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Remco got a new ITT bike and is trying out positions.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz-zy0oi7ky/

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

FINALLY the complete startlist is online for Adriatica Ionica Race.
Seems like Hugh Carthy won't be starting after all.

These will be the main contenders for GC according to PCS GC ranking:

1 POLANC Jan UAE-Team Emirates 495 27
2 PRADES Eduard Movistar Team 434 36
3 MASNADA Fausto Androni Giocattoli - Sidermec 422 37
4 HERMANS Ben Israel Cycling Academy 321 63
5 DOMBROWSKI Joe EF Education First 315 65
6 EVENEPOEL Remco Deceuninck - Quick Step 296 67
7 ANACONA Winner Movistar Team 226 89
8 KNOX James Deceuninck - Quick Step 189 117
9 MUÑOZ Daniel Androni Giocattoli - Sidermec 188 120
10 SEPÚLVEDA Eduardo Movistar Team 144 153

The main GC battle will be decided on friday.

 

[GuntherL]

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FINALLY the complete startlist is online for Adriatica Ionica Race.
Seems like Hugh Carthy won't be starting after all.

These will be the main contenders for GC according to PCS GC ranking:

1 POLANC Jan UAE-Team Emirates 495 27
2 PRADES Eduard Movistar Team 434 36
3 MASNADA Fausto Androni Giocattoli - Sidermec 422 37
4 HERMANS Ben Israel Cycling Academy 321 63
5 DOMBROWSKI Joe EF Education First 315 65
6 EVENEPOEL Remco Deceuninck - Quick Step 296 67
7 ANACONA Winner Movistar Team 226 89
8 KNOX James Deceuninck - Quick Step 189 117
9 MUÑOZ Daniel Androni Giocattoli - Sidermec 188 120
10 SEPÚLVEDA Eduardo Movistar Team 144 153

The main GC battle will be decided on friday.

He can take these guys if he kept his recent form.
Sepulveda and Masnada should pose the biggest threat. Anacona could as well, but that's hard to judge.
Anacona beat him in San Juan, but that was Remco's first pro race. Not very representative.
He already beat Polanc in Turkey on the final climb.
Knox was good in the Tour of Romandie, but hasn't raced since the Giro where he had to quit.

Even without a real time trial, he should be able to finish on the podium.

 

[Kokoso]

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His diet still seems to be rather... "diverse"? He was interviewed by (younger) kids in light of the Grand Départ, along with Van Avermaet and Monfort. Kids asked him how many times he eats fries and icecream... He ate fries a few days ago, and went on saying he eats icecream rather frequently, especially after a training session in the summer. He also likes to eat pancakes with Nutella in the morning.

I don't know exactly what other pro riders eat during the season, but something tells me there is still progress to be made in terms of his diet

I think that in general diet is overrated these days. I don't really think that diet is THAT important for one's health or happiness.

 

[ppanther92]

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FINALLY the complete startlist is online for Adriatica Ionica Race.
Seems like Hugh Carthy won't be starting after all.

These will be the main contenders for GC according to PCS GC ranking:

1 POLANC Jan UAE-Team Emirates 495 27
2 PRADES Eduard Movistar Team 434 36
3 MASNADA Fausto Androni Giocattoli - Sidermec 422 37
4 HERMANS Ben Israel Cycling Academy 321 63
5 DOMBROWSKI Joe EF Education First 315 65
6 EVENEPOEL Remco Deceuninck - Quick Step 296 67
7 ANACONA Winner Movistar Team 226 89
8 KNOX James Deceuninck - Quick Step 189 117
9 MUÑOZ Daniel Androni Giocattoli - Sidermec 188 120
10 SEPÚLVEDA Eduardo Movistar Team 144 153

The main GC battle will be decided on friday.

He can take these guys if he kept his recent form.
Sepulveda and Masnada should pose the biggest threat. Anacona could as well, but that's hard to judge.
Anacona beat him in San Juan, but that was Remco's first pro race. Not very representative.
He already beat Polanc in Turkey on the final climb.
Knox was good in the Tour of Romandie, but hasn't raced since the Giro where he had to quit.

Even without a real time trial, he should be able to finish on the podium.

I guess Hermans is the biggest threat, looking at the recent results in Austria (vs. Sepulveda and Anacona):
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-austria/2019/gc

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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His diet still seems to be rather... "diverse"? He was interviewed by (younger) kids in light of the Grand Départ, along with Van Avermaet and Monfort. Kids asked him how many times he eats fries and icecream... He ate fries a few days ago, and went on saying he eats icecream rather frequently, especially after a training session in the summer. He also likes to eat pancakes with Nutella in the morning.

I don't know exactly what other pro riders eat during the season, but something tells me there is still progress to be made in terms of his diet

I think that in general diet is overrated these days. I don't really think that diet is THAT important for one's health or happiness.

The Lotto Jumbo riders (the most successful team in the TDF so far) they have an app on their smartphone, which tells them personally and individually, how much grams of each foodgroup they are allowed to eat per meal. Not for their happiness but for giving the body just enough but not more, and keep them as fit as possible. So i'd guess it is kind of important in order to get results. But other teams don't do this (yet) so who knows for sure.

 

[Kokoso]

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His diet still seems to be rather... "diverse"? He was interviewed by (younger) kids in light of the Grand Départ, along with Van Avermaet and Monfort. Kids asked him how many times he eats fries and icecream... He ate fries a few days ago, and went on saying he eats icecream rather frequently, especially after a training session in the summer. He also likes to eat pancakes with Nutella in the morning.

I don't know exactly what other pro riders eat during the season, but something tells me there is still progress to be made in terms of his diet

I think that in general diet is overrated these days. I don't really think that diet is THAT important for one's health or happiness.

The Lotto Jumbo riders (the most successful team in the TDF so far) they have an app on their smartphone, which tells them personally and individually, how much grams of each foodgroup they are allowed to eat per meal. Not for their happiness but for giving the body just enough but not more, and keep them as fit as possible. So i'd guess it is kind of important in order to get results. But other teams don't do this (yet) so who knows for sure.

I've had on my mind what specifically one eats, not amount. Of course if one eats too much than he/she will gain weight, or the other way round, I've supposed one doesn't even mention this here on this pages.

 

[red_flanders]

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His diet still seems to be rather... "diverse"? He was interviewed by (younger) kids in light of the Grand Départ, along with Van Avermaet and Monfort. Kids asked him how many times he eats fries and icecream... He ate fries a few days ago, and went on saying he eats icecream rather frequently, especially after a training session in the summer. He also likes to eat pancakes with Nutella in the morning.

I don't know exactly what other pro riders eat during the season, but something tells me there is still progress to be made in terms of his diet

I think that in general diet is overrated these days. I don't really think that diet is THAT important for one's health or happiness.

I would take the entirely opposite view. That it's massively underrated in terms of health, which tends to equal happiness.

That said who cares if a 19-year-old rider eats a ton of sugary carbs in the morning. Way too early to worry about that.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Sénéchal says Evenepoel needs to learn how to ride a bike. Hopefully Quickstep now understands they need to actively coach him in this regard, as i have been saying since last year, and not keep brushing it off as nonsense.

E mentre tutti si coccolano Remco Evenepoel, che oggi ha chiuso a 1'28" dai migliori, lui lo tiene con i piedi per terra: «Evenepoel? È forte, ma non sa guidare bene la bicicletta. Oggi appena siamo entrati nei settori di sterrato ha perso posizioni e poi è pure caduto. Ovviamente la salita è il suo terreno ideale, ma deve imparare a guidare meglio la bici». Il millenial belga, in fin dei conti, è solo due anni che è in sella a una bicicletta. Ha tutto il tempo per diventare un funambolo...

And while everyone is pampering Remco Evenepoel, who finished at 1'28 "from the best today, Sénéchal puts Evenepoel with his feet on the ground:" Evenepoel? He is strong, but he does not know how to ride his bike well. Today, as soon as we entered the sectors of gravel he lost positions and then also fell. Obviously the climb is his ideal terrain, but he must learn to drive the bike better. "The millennial Belgian, after all, is only two years riding a bicycle. He has plenty of time to become a better pilot ...

I'm not really seeing the "pampering" here. Basically all his teammates hung him out to dry and actively rode against him and his GC.

 

[yaco]

What a bizarre post - Nothing wrong with QS having a second option who stays with the leaders - I still remember the posts from the Tour of Argentina, when some complained that a neo-pro in Evenepoel, was riding for his team leader in Alaphalippe.

 

[SafeBet]

Nobody rode against Remco's GC ambitions. They rode for the stage win, and ultimately finished 1-2-3 on the stage. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Bushman]

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Sénéchal says Evenepoel needs to learn how to ride a bike. Hopefully Quickstep now understands they need to actively coach him in this regard, as i have been saying since last year, and not keep brushing it off as nonsense.

E mentre tutti si coccolano Remco Evenepoel, che oggi ha chiuso a 1'28" dai migliori, lui lo tiene con i piedi per terra: «Evenepoel? È forte, ma non sa guidare bene la bicicletta. Oggi appena siamo entrati nei settori di sterrato ha perso posizioni e poi è pure caduto. Ovviamente la salita è il suo terreno ideale, ma deve imparare a guidare meglio la bici». Il millenial belga, in fin dei conti, è solo due anni che è in sella a una bicicletta. Ha tutto il tempo per diventare un funambolo...

And while everyone is pampering Remco Evenepoel, who finished at 1'28 "from the best today, Sénéchal puts Evenepoel with his feet on the ground:" Evenepoel? He is strong, but he does not know how to ride his bike well. Today, as soon as we entered the sectors of gravel he lost positions and then also fell. Obviously the climb is his ideal terrain, but he must learn to drive the bike better. "The millennial Belgian, after all, is only two years riding a bicycle. He has plenty of time to become a better pilot ...


I'm not really seeing the "pampering" here. Basically all his teammates hung him out to dry and actively rode against him and his GC.

That’s just a ridiculous statement honestly

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

lol, no it's not. WTF are you guys smoking?

So if Groenewegen, van Aert, Teunissen and De Plus are in a break, with Bernal and Thomas, when Kruijswijck just crashed and is solo in a chasing group, it's ok for them to ride away from Kruijswijk with Bernal and Thomas in their wheels :lol: :lol: :lol:

In this case, it was Sénéchal, Gilbert, Hodeg with Knox, riding for Hermans and Padun.

 

[Red Rick]

Relax. This is not the Tour de France.

 

[spalco]

Eh, Remco looks amazing, but he hasn't done enough to earn protected status in any bigboy race yet imo. Stay humble, learn the trade, get some real wins, then we can talk.

If his legs can do the talking, then he has to show it.

 

[Vroome.exe]

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lol, no it's not. WTF are you guys smoking?

So if Groenewegen, van Aert, Teunissen and De Plus are in a break, with Bernal and Thomas, when Kruijswijck just crashed and is solo in a chasing group, it's ok for them to ride away from Kruijswijk with Bernal and Thomas in their wheels :lol: :lol: :lol:

In this case, it was Sénéchal, Gilbert, Hodeg with Knox, riding for Hermans and Padun.

Knox has proven more than Evenepoel in mountains. Using your logic, it would be like waiting for De Plus while Kruijswijk is up the road gaining time on his rivals.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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Relax. This is not the Tour de France.

What's that got to do with anything? It's a perfectly fine comparison to show how idiotic their statements are.

Eh, Remco looks amazing, but he hasn't done enough to earn protected status in any bigboy race yet imo. Stay humble, learn the trade, get some real wins, then we can talk.

If his legs can do the talking, then he has to show it.

Eh, Remco has done a lot more than 24 year old Knox so far.

Knox has proven more than Evenepoel in mountains. Using your logic, it would be like waiting for De Plus while Kruijswijk is up the road gaining time on his rivals.

:lol:

 

[Bonimenier]

Knox has clearly been better uphill than Remco this year. And again today.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Knox has been outclimbing the fat kid in every bigger race, I don't know why some people belittle him, if anything he deserves a bit more praise than he gets.