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Dunno if Remco is used to winning.
(nevermind all else that Sagan has done)
Dunno if Remco is used to winning.
(nevermind all else that Sagan has done)
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Dunno if Remco is used to winning.
I'm not sure what point you're making here. Those are exactly Juraj Sagan's 4 only pro wins. Any race he's capable of winning is difficult to take seriously. No disrespect to his little bro, who's of course won many other races as well that aren't a joke.
Just picking how used to winning RE really is. He needs to be Peter first to be next Eddy as there's only handful of Belgians higher in all time ranking (PCS) and they're all old legion, Eddy himself et al.
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In terms of reading a bike race, understanding the tactical implications and how to race in small groups, I'm not sure that he isn't totally daft.
It doesn't help that he comes across as entitled, and that any (racing) problem ought to be a nail he can swing his hammer at.
It probably didn't help that DQS only sent him to stage races he could win in 2020.
Instead of, say, UAE Tour, Dauphiné. Would have maybe derailed the hype train somewhat.
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Really? Why would DQS send Remco to the Dauphine when he wasn’t riding in the TDF?
The UAE tour is the utmost quality?
Good grief I’ve seen some drivel lately but this takes the cake.
I think he and Van der Poel have the same brute force approach. It works but not all the time
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They actually sent him to the UAE tour his 2nd month after turning pro. He finished the first MTF on Jebel Hafeet a few seconds behind Dumoulin, ahead of Costa, Schachmann, Nibali, Sivakov, and within 1 minute of winner Valverde. Either you are overestimating the UAE, or you are underestimating Evenepoel. Also nobody would expect him to outright dominate those races against Landa, Yates, Majka, Carapaz, Bennett, Kuss, Fuglsang, Lopez etc. Sending him directly to the big races would have people here claim they were insane to send him there so soon, that they should have protected him better and keep him in the small races.
yeah, I mean really, he was already 20 years old! Shouldn't he have already completed 8 TDFs, 5 Vueltas and 6 Giros by then!?
What a loser!
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I actually like how he races. I like riders who animate and attack, with less thought to their placings than trying to win. Not saying he couldn't be more astute, but racing is always more entertaining when he, MVDP, and WVA are doing their thing. Such a refreshing change from the decades of calculated, guarded racing we've been watching.
Entitled? He sure does think he should win all the time. I also like that. Seems to work hard for others when asked as well.
He could have taken Knox' place, who was never in the Tour team (Knox was always set to race the Giro instead), but was selected for the Dauphiné.
I was not a fan of his 2020 schedule. It didn't make sense to me, considering his long-term goals as a GC racer. His 2019 program was fine (UAE Tour included), but in 2020 they could have had him race races with bigger climbs.
Algarve is a more prestigious and ITT-heavy race, so I get that he focused on that one and skipped UAE (he was set to race that one, too, IIRC) but overall... I dunno. Seems weird - and less than ideal - to me that he raced harder climbs in his first pro season.
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Tbh tactically I don't think Evenepoel has super many options considering how good he is solo and how bad he is in sprints. The main stupid decision I've seen is trying to follow Nibali on a notoriously tricky descent.
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Yeah, probably the same reason they sent him to the Giro as leader without any prep.
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Absolutely. A different style, but style for days, and also a rider who risks all for the win.
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Seems like you are forgetting the entire season was shaken about due to Covid, and that the plan last year was to ride the Giro. But because Covid that race was held months later instead of in spring, and by that time he had already crashed out.
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Yes indeed. Still can't get used to it. smh
Stupid reaction. I see handlebar banging riders all the time, after losing in the sprint. This never leads to such pathetic reactions. Such sad comments say more about the persons who write them down.
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Mod hat on
I just deleted a bunch of personal arguments. Let's stick to Evenepoel, whether you disagree about him or not.
I just deleted a bunch of personal arguments. Let's stick to Evenepoel, whether you disagree about him or not.
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Apparently my post wasn't courteous enough in response to suggestions of Evenepoel being an idiot, later to be reduced to "completely daft tactically", so i will try again. I am wearing my finest clothes and shaved especially for the occasion. Here goes: He started cycling as a junior when the season had already started for a few months, meaning he raced less than 2 full seasons as a junior. He won most of those races dominantly by finishing solo, there was no need for tactics. He then immediately became a pro, finished his first season with lots of up and downs, there were no real goals set. The idea was to have fun and learn. Then after only 23 racedays in his 2nd season, he crashed out. One could see that the main problem should rather be defined as "lack of experience" rather than "completely daft". As i bow my head and walk backwards out of the room, i hope i haven't offended anyone.
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Honest question: What would you suggest for his tactics in a race such as the Belgian championship? If the race isn't selective enough or his hammer not hard enough, then it is what it is I suppose. I don't think he wins that sprint even if Van Aert is riding on a tricycle.
In 1-week stage races his tactics seem to be working well enough. Not the most glamourous discipline of cycling I guess, but the one he's had the most success in so far.
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And no sensible person would debate that. Yet both in form and content, this post is a far cry from your initial statement.
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Wouldn't any bike racer follow the lead group down a descent in the finale of a monument? I don't see a stupid decision, I see bad bike handling.
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He lost his chance at Lombardia, at the Worlds, and at the Giro because he took a risk where the pay off is basically 0.
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