Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Eddy Evenepoel]

That time of the year again. Can you please hand over the title of the thread to Jonas?.

Jonas need to win something other than mountains to be worth a Merckx comparison.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Jonas need to win something other than mountains to be worth a Merckx comparison.

On the other hand Remco needs to win a few TDF's before he's worthy of the same comparison.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

On the other hand Remco needs to win a few TDF's before he's worthy of the same comparison.

Merckx also won “a lesser GT” before he won a GT so atleast he’s on the right track unlike the fisherman.

 

[Berniece]

Random thought: Lefevere Remco will choose the Giro next year.

Purely depends on the route. You think he’s “scared” after seeing Vingegaard today? He probably thinks he could’ve followed him

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Purely depends on the route. You think he’s “scared” after seeing Vingegaard today? He probably thinks he could’ve followed him

Maybe...but, I mean, we all know he would have been smoked right? Maybe next year he can get to that level, but I think he would have been in the Pogi group today if he'd raced it.

 

[Berniece]

Maybe...but, I mean, we all know he would have been smoked right? Maybe next year he can get to that level, but I think he would have been in the Pogi group today if he'd raced it.

Do we? I don’t know, Remco at his best pushes similar numbers. Just not sure he can do this if the race was as hard as today and for 3 weeks straight.

So probably he wouldn’t have been able to follow but that’s a boring premise for this topic.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

Do we? I don’t know, Remco at his best pushes similar numbers. Just not sure he can do this if the race was as hard as today and for 3 weeks straight.

So probably he wouldn’t have been able to follow but that’s a boring premise for this topic.

Remco's issue has been climbing at altitude. However, it you get him in his Vuelta shape he's quite dangerous.

I think the challenge is that Vinegaard and Pogacar like to change speeds and can do explosive attacks that are punchy where as Evenepoels attacks are typically ones where he is consistenly nudging the pace and others eventually fall off because they cannot stay on his wheel.

Of course the otehr issue is that Vinegaard has much better support. However if De Plus comes to Quickstep and De Wilder keeps improving he'll have a much better chance dealing with Vinegaard.

 

[peterfin]

Do we? I don’t know, Remco at his best pushes similar numbers. Just not sure he can do this if the race was as hard as today and for 3 weeks straight.

So probably he wouldn’t have been able to follow but that’s a boring premise for this topic.

He knows he needs an altitude training camp first. To beat or even just follow Vingegaard he needs a similar preparation and be as razor sharp as he can comfortably be without losing power. He needs the 20-30 watts he was missing in Suisse. A hard race, 3 weeks ... I am pretty sure that this does not matter if he has the watts/kg to follow. On the contrary, the longer the race, the better for Remco. His diesel keeps going.

 

[houtdffan]

Maybe...but, I mean, we all know he would have been smoked right? Maybe next year he can get to that level, but I think he would have been in the Pogi group today if he'd raced it.

Yeah, he'd have been with Pog today.

Pog is likely at Remco TDS level. Not beating Vingegaard at that level. Finishing with those who Remco was finishing with at TDS, and that was an out of form Remco

Not so good, Pog

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That time of the year again. Can you please hand over the title of the thread to Jonas?

Thanks.

Why on earth should that happen. Jonas can get "Froome" in his thread title.

 

[houtdffan]

Why on earth should that happen. Jonas can get "Froome" in his thread title.

Or even Contador may be the appropriate name

Merckx not only won stage races, he also dominated 1-day races

 

[IndianCyclist]

I want him to to the Olympic double (ITT + RR).

Imagine a schedule where he goes for San Remo (Cipressa attack), Ronde (100 km attack), Liege (Redoute hat trick), then Olympic double and finish off the season with WC double and Lombardia.
Don’t bother about GTs next year Remco!

So in short he is not going to lose in any GTs next year😁

 

[Red Rick]

Always fun to see the top GC rider in the world blow the Tour to pieces only for the Evenepoel thread to go "Remco could have done that"

 

[Berniece]

Always fun to see the top GC rider in the world blow the Tour to pieces only for the Evenepoel thread to go "Remco could have done that"

Let's hope he can do that, or Ayuso. Otherwise we are in for a boring 5 years of TDF for the GC

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Always fun to see the top GC rider in the world blow the Tour to pieces only for the Evenepoel thread to go "Remco could have done that"

From a reliable source I know that Skeletor and Teddy actually paid visit to Remco in June. They asked how he felt and advised him to rest more after the Giro disappointment. UAE and JV DS convinced the old man as well ($$$).

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Always fun to see the top GC rider in the world blow the Tour to pieces only for the Evenepoel thread to go "Remco could have done that"

Always fun how one person with a controversial opinion that several posters are disagreeing with is seen as the representative of the entire thread and all it’s posters

 

[DNP-Old]

The performance by Vingegaard yesterday was worse by w/kg estimates than Remco in March this year on Lo Port. Therefore, we place an asterisk next to the 2023 Tour winner.

 

[theyoungest]

Let's hope he can do that, or Ayuso. Otherwise we are in for a boring 5 years of TDF for the GC

Relax, 5 years ago nobody had ever heard of Vingegaard. These things change quickly in cycling. I'm not sure it will be Evenepoel that challenges him, Ayuso would indeed maybe be a better bet, but someone will come along.

 

[Berniece]

Relax, 5 years ago nobody had ever heard of Vingegaard. These things change quickly in cycling. I'm not sure it will be Evenepoel that challenges him, Ayuso would indeed maybe be a better bet, but someone will come along.

Froome had quite the reign for a couple of years, and would've won more TDF's without crashes and some bad luck. Feels like Vingegaard is currently also ahead of the pack like Froome was. Unless Remco reels him in, which I think is very possible since Remco at 100% is the best in the world (imo).

Looking forward to next year already

 

[Salvarani]

Relax, 5 years ago nobody had ever heard of Vingegaard. These things change quickly in cycling. I'm not sure it will be Evenepoel that challenges him, Ayuso would indeed maybe be a better bet, but someone will come along.

I would like to see how young Lenny Martinez develops... because when it comes to climbing in the high mountains he has the potential to become one of the best.

 

[DNP-Old]

I would like to see how young Lenny Martinez develops... because when it comes to climbing in the high mountains he has the potential to become one of the best.

Lenny Rujano will get smoked on the flat, unfortunately.

 

[Salvarani]

Lenny Rujano will get smoked on the flat, unfortunately.

He should retire immediately.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

From a reliable source I know that Skeletor and Teddy actually paid visit to Remco in June. They asked how he felt and advised him to rest more after the Giro disappointment. UAE and JV DS convinced the old man as well ($$$).

Was the source vwpe?

 

[staubsauger]

Let's hope he can do that, or Ayuso. Otherwise we are in for a boring 5 years of TDF for the GC

Business as usual

 

[Netserk]

The performance by Vingegaard yesterday was worse by w/kg estimates than Remco in March this year on Lo Port. Therefore, we place an asterisk next to the 2023 Tour winner.

Only if you don't adjust for altitude and include the Majka pace. And that's not mentioning the difference of stage profile and how it was raced before the last climb.