Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[AmRacer]

The moment he has a gap of 10m, it's over

If he can gap Mathieu, that is.

 

[Billie]

You genuinely doubt his ability to win Amstel? A hilly circuit that favours the big engines, I think AGR has Evenepoel written all over it. I think Evenepoel can win any Ardennes/Limburg classic. I even think he can win Flanders and Roubaix if he wants to. Question is more whether a certain Tadej P. is riding the same race or not.

A technical course full of stop start where the cars are not even removed from the road. There's a reason he has never tried to win....

If you look a the profile it should suit him but if you look at the map not so much.

Flanders and Roubaix lol. Rewatch his attempt at Brabantse Pijl

 

[red_flanders]

I think the previous thread titles were to mock those who still do not understand that the original title was chosen tongue in cheek based on his results as a junior (which were indeed better than Merckx at that age), those who are still triggered to point out he is not the new Merckx while it is abundantly clear there will never be another rider to match Merckx his palmares.

I see. That sounds about right. It was too over the top for me.

 

[Keldergoat]

@Billie. He won several cobbled courses as well (Brussels CC, Druivenkoers). I don't believe the 'Evenepoel can't ride on cobbles' mantra, it's all about the watts and how strong you are in one day races.

Your point on technicality I do find more on point, though I wouldn't necessarily say AGR is technical, it's just has a lot of corners and obstacles. It's not the same of technical course like Roubaix. I stand corrected, but I think Amstel suits Evenepoel really well.

 

[Extinction]

I think the previous thread titles were to mock those who still do not understand that the original title was chosen tongue in cheek based on his results as a junior (which were indeed better than Merckx at that age), those who are still triggered to point out he is not the new Merckx while it is abundantly clear there will never be another rider to match Merckx his palmares.

Still, it's a heavy load to bear and automatically provokes derision. Merxcks today would probably not win the Tour. And, so, the original title is a metaphorical provocation, which now has become an albatros.

 

[Berniece]

If he can gap Mathieu, that is.

Might be possible. Alaphilippe en Fuglsang were also able to gap him. Obviously MVDP is much better now, than he was back then. I'm looking forward to see how well he'll climb against riders like Evenepoel. AGR also has 500m extra altitude meters compared to De Ronde.

 

[red_flanders]

Merxcks today would probably not win the Tour. It's a metaphorical provocation, which now has become an albatros.

Sacrilege + misspelling his name?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Still, it's a heavy load to bear and automatically provokes derision. Merxcks today would probably not win the Tour. And, so, the original title is a metaphorical provocation, which now has become an albatros.

It's not a heavy load to bear as it was never meant to be an actual comparison or at the very least, not one to be taken too seriously for reasons i pointed out. You realise Wilco Kelderman had a nearly identical thread title? You didn't? Well, there is a reason for that.
The title was picked early in his 2nd junior year. As far as predicting in early 2018 which rider would best stand the comparison goes (for those who do want to take it seriously), 6 years later you have to acknowledge only one out of a thousand other riders who was a complete unknown back then, might have turned out a better fit.

 

[Extinction]

It's not a heavy load to bear as it was never meant to be an actual comparison or at the very least, not one to be taken too seriously for reasons i pointed out. You realise Wilco Kelderman had a nearly identical thread title? You didn't? Well, there is a reason for that.
The title was picked early in his 2nd junior year. As far as predicting in early 2018 which rider would best stand the comparison goes (for those who do want to take it seriously), 6 years later you have to acknowledge only one out of a thousand other riders who was a complete unknown back then, might have turned out a better fit.

I'm well aware of early-hype predictions about future GOATs, but then actual performance sets in inevitabily. No, what I really want to say is that, as far as Belgium and cycling are concerned, unfortunately, despite tounge and cheek prognosticasions, the kid has an immense weight placed upon his shoulders. More than any other rider I'd dare say in history with social media involved. Povero Remco

 

[Froome]

That's a rather optimistic outlook, no? Cattaneo is hit or miss, Van Wilder too, Landa is an old fox, Vansevenant a lucky charm at best. However, if the cards fall into place and the team strategists don't plan things wrong, then maybe. There are too many variables to predict much, but have doubts yes.

I honestly think it's a very decent team to protect Remco, but at the end of the day, what will decide, will be the legs of the leaders.

 

[Extinction]

I honestly think it's a very decent team to protect Remco, but at the end of the day, what will decide, will be the legs of the leaders.

As always my dear Sherlock.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'm well aware of early-hype predictions about future GOATs, but then actual performance sets in inevitabily. No, what I really want to say is that, as far as Belgium and cycling is concerned, unfortunately, despite tounge and cheek prognosticasions, the kid has an immense weight placed upon his shoulders. More than any other rider I'd dare say in history with social media involved. Povero Remco

Yes, that is true. But that has little to do with the intent of this thread title, which was what the discussion was about.

 

[Extinction]

Yes, that is true. But that has little to do with the intent of this thread title, which was what the discussion was about.

I'm aware of that but the result has not met the intention.

 

[Karl Merckx]

Flanders and Roubaix lol. Rewatch his attempt at Brabantse Pijl

Well you should rewatch his attempt at Brabantse Pijl since what made him not win the race, was that he did ride on (wet) cobbles of the Hertstraat instead of riding on the gutter...
He didn't have any problems on the Moskesstraat (which is the local paterberg).

As said earlier, he won several cobbled races . Him having issues on cobbles is fake news.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Remco is the new Jurgen Van Den Broeck.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'm aware of that but the result has not met the intention.

I don't know what else is needed for you to understand that the intention was not what you think it is, so i'm gonna step away here.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

Remco is the new Jurgen Van Den Broeck.

As much as I liked JVDB he had two wins. Remco has 54 wins and he's still only 24.

 

[DNP-Old]

Yes, that is true. But that has little to do with the intent of this thread title, which was what the discussion was about.

You haven't heard? Wout van Aert and Mathieu van der Poel had sex together and bred Jan Christen. Thread titles are to be taken very seriously.

 

[Andre]

I heard Pog went to altitude training today so he can be strong for LBL. I'm wondering if Itzulia will give Remco the training and strength he needs to win LBL once again. Amstel and La Fleche will also aid in his preparation. Of those two races I hope he wins La Fleche instead of Amstel...although I'm not opposed to any victory he achieves.

 

[AmRacer]

I heard Pog went to altitude training today so he can be strong for LBL. I'm wondering if Itzulia will give Remco the training and strength he needs to win LBL once again. Amstel and La Fleche will also aid in his preparation. Of those two races I hope he wins La Fleche instead of Amstel...although I'm not opposed to any victory he achieves.

Mathieu will do Amstel, if he has any power left.

 

[Froome]

I heard Pog went to altitude training today so he can be strong for LBL. I'm wondering if Itzulia will give Remco the training and strength he needs to win LBL once again. Amstel and La Fleche will also aid in his preparation. Of those two races I hope he wins La Fleche instead of Amstel...although I'm not opposed to any victory he achieves.

I will say it again, even if i'm not sure, but i believe the top riders are using hypobaric chambers when they're not at altitude.

 

[Salvarani]

I'm aware of that but the result has not met the intention.

Yeah… and it is not like it was a ”joke” either. You can just read the thread to understand that.

The rider has not lived up to the expectations. Not his fault though.

 

[AmRacer]

It must be one of those troll titles that should be banned.
🤣

 

[Extinction]

I don't know what else is needed for you to understand that the intention was not what you think it is, so i'm gonna step away here.

I know what the intention was (rhetorical), but thus far has failed to deliver, which has only invited derision.

 

[houtdffan]

You seem discouraged. Soudal, for the team it was, should have signed a WVA or a MVDP, but chose Evenepoel, a gamble they may come to regret. You see, Don Pat's squadra knows how to win classics and monuments, but GTs have been mostly unchartered territory, yet for other teams are bread and butter. So Soudal must reinvent itself. But have they been able to do it?

well, Remco has won numerous classics plus a GT. Seems they chose wisely