I guess that depends, in boxing the middling fighters facing Ali, Mike Tyson, etc were called the contenders—even though they had less chance of winning than Mas does against Pogacar.
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Nah, the Wunderkind with world class TT-ability with the big weight gain during off-season/whenever he has to take a break from riding.He trains in the off season with Molly?
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Here is an interview with the nutritionist of the Soudal-Quickstep team of Evenepoel. Translated via Google translate. It confirms what I already wrote here several times.
“First and foremost: at Remco it doesn't take much to be able to quickly and adequately see the difference. Outwardly you notice it now and it seems like a major issue. But purely in terms of weight, that's not too bad. And in the end, the work that still had to be done wasn't so gigantic.”
“During the altitude training camp in Isola 2000, following the Dauphiné, we started eating very strictly, very 'clean'. I drew up nutritional plans, which the chef (ed.) started working on. Remco carefully considered exactly what he needed. We went a little more extreme than we normally do, while ensuring that he still recovered well and could certainly improve his condition. Because that was of course also very important. Especially in the last days before the Grand Départ, we worked meticulously, down to the smallest detail. With this as a result.”
Was everything really weighed in the figurative scales?
"Yes. We really started looking at what was possible in terms of carbohydrates and proteins. And where the limits were. Now, on that note: Remco knows himself and his body inside and out. At altitude, your energy consumption and carbohydrate combustion are slightly higher. This means that if you train even a little bit lower, you will get a much greater effect than if you were at sea level.”
Mentally he seems to be able to make that effort very well.
"Absolute. But that doesn't last all season, does it? We choose the periods. After his fall in the Tour of the Basque Country, for example, we let him 'free' for a while and first let him recover properly from his injuries. Then he just did his own thing. When he restarted, we evaluated what exactly needed to be done. And we started working towards the Tour with a clear plan, just as we did with the Giro last year.”
“Remco has a morphology that means that his weight can fluctuate more often, yes. And then, as he himself indicated, it is not only about fat percentage or moisture, but also about muscle mass. In winter he lets it go a bit, but never to a disturbing extent. You will never encounter situations like with certain other riders from the past with him.”
It remains a constant point of attention, he says. Also in winter.
What happens when the belt is tightened? Extremely little or meager food?
“You could assume: as few fats as possible. But they are crucial for immune function, cellular structure and things like that. We do keep them at a minimum. Just like the proteins. Just enough to be able to recover properly. And then we're going to play a little with carbohydrates. During tough stages and on difficult training days, a rider should eat well. Even then he will always be in an energy deficit. On quiet days this is less, but still a nice portion because they consume so little during such a period. We strive for a healthy balance.”
Are guilty pleasures completely excluded?
“Yes, but riders have no need for that in the daily 'flow' they are currently in. The evening before the first and second rest day, we sometimes ask what they really like - including dessert - and, as much as possible, we try to prepare something they can look forward to. Then it's okay."
“First and foremost: at Remco it doesn't take much to be able to quickly and adequately see the difference. Outwardly you notice it now and it seems like a major issue. But purely in terms of weight, that's not too bad. And in the end, the work that still had to be done wasn't so gigantic.”
“During the altitude training camp in Isola 2000, following the Dauphiné, we started eating very strictly, very 'clean'. I drew up nutritional plans, which the chef (ed.) started working on. Remco carefully considered exactly what he needed. We went a little more extreme than we normally do, while ensuring that he still recovered well and could certainly improve his condition. Because that was of course also very important. Especially in the last days before the Grand Départ, we worked meticulously, down to the smallest detail. With this as a result.”
Was everything really weighed in the figurative scales?
"Yes. We really started looking at what was possible in terms of carbohydrates and proteins. And where the limits were. Now, on that note: Remco knows himself and his body inside and out. At altitude, your energy consumption and carbohydrate combustion are slightly higher. This means that if you train even a little bit lower, you will get a much greater effect than if you were at sea level.”
Mentally he seems to be able to make that effort very well.
"Absolute. But that doesn't last all season, does it? We choose the periods. After his fall in the Tour of the Basque Country, for example, we let him 'free' for a while and first let him recover properly from his injuries. Then he just did his own thing. When he restarted, we evaluated what exactly needed to be done. And we started working towards the Tour with a clear plan, just as we did with the Giro last year.”
“Remco has a morphology that means that his weight can fluctuate more often, yes. And then, as he himself indicated, it is not only about fat percentage or moisture, but also about muscle mass. In winter he lets it go a bit, but never to a disturbing extent. You will never encounter situations like with certain other riders from the past with him.”
It remains a constant point of attention, he says. Also in winter.
What happens when the belt is tightened? Extremely little or meager food?
“You could assume: as few fats as possible. But they are crucial for immune function, cellular structure and things like that. We do keep them at a minimum. Just like the proteins. Just enough to be able to recover properly. And then we're going to play a little with carbohydrates. During tough stages and on difficult training days, a rider should eat well. Even then he will always be in an energy deficit. On quiet days this is less, but still a nice portion because they consume so little during such a period. We strive for a healthy balance.”
Are guilty pleasures completely excluded?
“Yes, but riders have no need for that in the daily 'flow' they are currently in. The evening before the first and second rest day, we sometimes ask what they really like - including dessert - and, as much as possible, we try to prepare something they can look forward to. Then it's okay."
due to the fact you get little benefit sitting behind Remco. That may be the reason he is usually able to ride people off his wheel
Plus, as Vingo has said, he cannot attack Remco when Remco rides like that. The pace is just too high
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Neither has ever beaten Evenepoel in a TT. It's 11 to 0, Evenepoel vs Pogacar/Vingegaard.
He only faced Vingegaard in a GT yet.
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It’s still in the first week and a flat ITT. What make you think that Pog and Jonas is better than the world champion?
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Yeah it's going to be an interesting one for sure. Between Remco and Pogi there are quite rare times when both have gone at the same race really all in, I guess TA 2022 was like that.
Now Vingo same year when he let WVA win in the Tour tt and still beat Pogi and how evenly close they were in the opening tt, I think this trio may be surprisingly close but who knows. It's also team Visma decision tactically, do they decide to go all in now or later, I guess they choose to go later.
Now Vingo same year when he let WVA win in the Tour tt and still beat Pogi and how evenly close they were in the opening tt, I think this trio may be surprisingly close but who knows. It's also team Visma decision tactically, do they decide to go all in now or later, I guess they choose to go later.
We can call it RDS. What they actually need to win against Remco is a DRS like in the F1. A drag reduction system is what they need.
I remember your post about 2 years ago predicting Remco will drop Pog on a climb some day, still sticking with that ?
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Nice of him no to contest the sprint today to allow Cavendish more of a chance for the history. Full focus on the GC
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Sorry, this is a Cav free zone. All the other threads have ppl gushing about him and some of us need to escape all that. This is the Remco thread in name only. What it really serves as is A big ass Quiet room to meditate and discuss weight loss, CdA, grinta and the rise of Belgium.
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Remco now is to light to contest a sprint. He now is "Slimco".
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Skeletor changed the Tour into a featherweight fight so
Pretty sure you could be in a coma and you couldnt lose 1.5kg of muscle in 3 weeks. Not from remcos baseline. Muscle in general is very hard to build and not quite as hard but still quite hard to lose
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Skeletor still with an advantage of 4 kg to Slimco.
Vingegaard should have the yellow jersey!
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Maybe after a coma one would but in this case I don't know how losing 1.5 kg of muscles in 19 days is possible.
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