We don't know. It could also be the reverse. Evenepoel, as a junior, already being at another level than his peers. More than Pogacar was, and certainly far more than Vingegaard. So I guess, Vingegaard could last longer as a GT-rider. Especially because Vingegaard is specialising in GT's and is not spending energy in one-dayraces (as Evenepoel and Poga do).
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a bit different dont you think winning WC and winning TT in 3 week race while trying to go for top 10 spot
He won almost all his TT’s in GT’s when going for GC. Some with impressive margins. Even one in the Giro while sick.
In fact, I have never seen him descending that bad. Well, at least when caught by camera. That makes sense, because the very first part of the descent, he didn't lose to much time. But then, he suddenly lost more time. Shortly afterwards we could see him caught by camera, completely cramped on the bike. That agrees with his statement that after a few turns he almost crashed because of the meltwater. Already a bad downhill racer by nature, his old demons returned. He was lucky that in the second part of the descent, there was a fewer steep and winding road where he did not lose more time.
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The last TT, sure, but on the 7nd stage while he was very good on Galibier and the next two stages are flat? Nope he'll definitely beat any GC candidate unless he crashes.
If everyone started training like a pro at the same age that should be true, but the (albeit older) theory is that riders “age” in terms of GTs finished. For example, Kuss aged 3 yrs in “pro biker” years in 2023
You are right, but not for this first TT (Evenepoel should win there). For the second TT, the last day of the Tour, it comes down more to shape and freshness. In addition, it is half a climbing time trial, with a difficult descent to Nice. I don't see him winning there and maybe losing a lot of time on Pogacar and Vingegaard. Hopefully that loss of time will no longer have too much of an influence on his place in the GC.
A 45-sec lead for the race favorite after Stage 4 is in no way a small gain for the effort expended. People sometimes forget the other riders finishing behind him did not arrive on e-bikes or in a horse carriage. That is, They likely expended as much energy as Pog.
I’m not trying to downgrade Remco’s chances. But there is a common judgement bias in which people’s brains tend see the “two birds in the bush” as looking better than the one in the hand. Pogacar has those 45 seconds in hand and should not be discounted.
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One would think Roglic could benefit from it. Because he had the best preparation. But after seeing him perform in stage 2 and 4, and considering his age, I don't think this will be the case anymore.
Rewatched the descent and with 13km to go he got dropped by the other 3. That was my moment where I thought everything was over, see him taking that corner really bad just after. The group was given 35”.
To only lose that amount at the finish is not bad after all, when I thought in that moment he would lose easily another half minute.
From hoping he could get to Vingo, to hoping he could follow these 3 and not losing more. Gaining back again and looking strong in the end. Emotional rollercoaster.
There was also one image of Pogi flying over a little cornered bridge above 70km/h. I imagine Remco going way slower there with his Lombardia crash in mind.
To only lose that amount at the finish is not bad after all, when I thought in that moment he would lose easily another half minute.
From hoping he could get to Vingo, to hoping he could follow these 3 and not losing more. Gaining back again and looking strong in the end. Emotional rollercoaster.
There was also one image of Pogi flying over a little cornered bridge above 70km/h. I imagine Remco going way slower there with his Lombardia crash in mind.
I guess that depends, in boxing the middling fighters facing Ali, Mike Tyson, etc were called the contenders—even though they had less chance of winning than Mas does against Pogacar.
Nah, the Wunderkind with world class TT-ability with the big weight gain during off-season/whenever he has to take a break from riding.He trains in the off season with Molly?
Here is an interview with the nutritionist of the Soudal-Quickstep team of Evenepoel. Translated via Google translate. It confirms what I already wrote here several times.
“First and foremost: at Remco it doesn't take much to be able to quickly and adequately see the difference. Outwardly you notice it now and it seems like a major issue. But purely in terms of weight, that's not too bad. And in the end, the work that still had to be done wasn't so gigantic.”
“During the altitude training camp in Isola 2000, following the Dauphiné, we started eating very strictly, very 'clean'. I drew up nutritional plans, which the chef (ed.) started working on. Remco carefully considered exactly what he needed. We went a little more extreme than we normally do, while ensuring that he still recovered well and could certainly improve his condition. Because that was of course also very important. Especially in the last days before the Grand Départ, we worked meticulously, down to the smallest detail. With this as a result.”
Was everything really weighed in the figurative scales?
"Yes. We really started looking at what was possible in terms of carbohydrates and proteins. And where the limits were. Now, on that note: Remco knows himself and his body inside and out. At altitude, your energy consumption and carbohydrate combustion are slightly higher. This means that if you train even a little bit lower, you will get a much greater effect than if you were at sea level.”
Mentally he seems to be able to make that effort very well.
"Absolute. But that doesn't last all season, does it? We choose the periods. After his fall in the Tour of the Basque Country, for example, we let him 'free' for a while and first let him recover properly from his injuries. Then he just did his own thing. When he restarted, we evaluated what exactly needed to be done. And we started working towards the Tour with a clear plan, just as we did with the Giro last year.”
“Remco has a morphology that means that his weight can fluctuate more often, yes. And then, as he himself indicated, it is not only about fat percentage or moisture, but also about muscle mass. In winter he lets it go a bit, but never to a disturbing extent. You will never encounter situations like with certain other riders from the past with him.”
It remains a constant point of attention, he says. Also in winter.
What happens when the belt is tightened? Extremely little or meager food?
“You could assume: as few fats as possible. But they are crucial for immune function, cellular structure and things like that. We do keep them at a minimum. Just like the proteins. Just enough to be able to recover properly. And then we're going to play a little with carbohydrates. During tough stages and on difficult training days, a rider should eat well. Even then he will always be in an energy deficit. On quiet days this is less, but still a nice portion because they consume so little during such a period. We strive for a healthy balance.”
Are guilty pleasures completely excluded?
“Yes, but riders have no need for that in the daily 'flow' they are currently in. The evening before the first and second rest day, we sometimes ask what they really like - including dessert - and, as much as possible, we try to prepare something they can look forward to. Then it's okay."
“First and foremost: at Remco it doesn't take much to be able to quickly and adequately see the difference. Outwardly you notice it now and it seems like a major issue. But purely in terms of weight, that's not too bad. And in the end, the work that still had to be done wasn't so gigantic.”
“During the altitude training camp in Isola 2000, following the Dauphiné, we started eating very strictly, very 'clean'. I drew up nutritional plans, which the chef (ed.) started working on. Remco carefully considered exactly what he needed. We went a little more extreme than we normally do, while ensuring that he still recovered well and could certainly improve his condition. Because that was of course also very important. Especially in the last days before the Grand Départ, we worked meticulously, down to the smallest detail. With this as a result.”
Was everything really weighed in the figurative scales?
"Yes. We really started looking at what was possible in terms of carbohydrates and proteins. And where the limits were. Now, on that note: Remco knows himself and his body inside and out. At altitude, your energy consumption and carbohydrate combustion are slightly higher. This means that if you train even a little bit lower, you will get a much greater effect than if you were at sea level.”
Mentally he seems to be able to make that effort very well.
"Absolute. But that doesn't last all season, does it? We choose the periods. After his fall in the Tour of the Basque Country, for example, we let him 'free' for a while and first let him recover properly from his injuries. Then he just did his own thing. When he restarted, we evaluated what exactly needed to be done. And we started working towards the Tour with a clear plan, just as we did with the Giro last year.”
“Remco has a morphology that means that his weight can fluctuate more often, yes. And then, as he himself indicated, it is not only about fat percentage or moisture, but also about muscle mass. In winter he lets it go a bit, but never to a disturbing extent. You will never encounter situations like with certain other riders from the past with him.”
It remains a constant point of attention, he says. Also in winter.
What happens when the belt is tightened? Extremely little or meager food?
“You could assume: as few fats as possible. But they are crucial for immune function, cellular structure and things like that. We do keep them at a minimum. Just like the proteins. Just enough to be able to recover properly. And then we're going to play a little with carbohydrates. During tough stages and on difficult training days, a rider should eat well. Even then he will always be in an energy deficit. On quiet days this is less, but still a nice portion because they consume so little during such a period. We strive for a healthy balance.”
Are guilty pleasures completely excluded?
“Yes, but riders have no need for that in the daily 'flow' they are currently in. The evening before the first and second rest day, we sometimes ask what they really like - including dessert - and, as much as possible, we try to prepare something they can look forward to. Then it's okay."
due to the fact you get little benefit sitting behind Remco. That may be the reason he is usually able to ride people off his wheel
Plus, as Vingo has said, he cannot attack Remco when Remco rides like that. The pace is just too high
Neither has ever beaten Evenepoel in a TT. It's 11 to 0, Evenepoel vs Pogacar/Vingegaard.
He only faced Vingegaard in a GT yet.
It’s still in the first week and a flat ITT. What make you think that Pog and Jonas is better than the world champion?
Yeah it's going to be an interesting one for sure. Between Remco and Pogi there are quite rare times when both have gone at the same race really all in, I guess TA 2022 was like that.
Now Vingo same year when he let WVA win in the Tour tt and still beat Pogi and how evenly close they were in the opening tt, I think this trio may be surprisingly close but who knows. It's also team Visma decision tactically, do they decide to go all in now or later, I guess they choose to go later.
Now Vingo same year when he let WVA win in the Tour tt and still beat Pogi and how evenly close they were in the opening tt, I think this trio may be surprisingly close but who knows. It's also team Visma decision tactically, do they decide to go all in now or later, I guess they choose to go later.
We can call it RDS. What they actually need to win against Remco is a DRS like in the F1. A drag reduction system is what they need.
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