Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[scribers]

You could just, y'know, ride outside of the door zone at all times... it's worked for me so far and I've been riding a lot longer than Remco.

That's called the lane of traffic. And when you're in an urban environment, there really isn't space for a bike there. Never mind the idea these guys go way too fast to use bike lanes.

 

[scribers]

I guess only on training camps or planned team rides. Most of the time they ride with some local pro's or elite level riders, but sometimes Remco rides alone here in Belgium when he needs to focus on his program or no one else available. With 30 riders you can't have a team car with everyone. And if the car was behind him it would've been the same outcome.

I think Bruyneel said recently the top riders are with a motorbike at minimum and usually a car, for safety reasons. And if the car is behind him a driver checking for oncoming traffic before opening their door is more likely to see a car than a cyclist.

 

[Berniece]

Does this mean the giro / tour double is already off the table

I think so. He’ll probably do the Tour and no Giro because building up for Giro and following it with a Tour is too much if you come back from injury. Look at last year, WC was already hard to get properly ready for after his injury and TDF.

Better to focus on TDF, WC and Lombardia.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Always horrible with serious crashes, but I think it’s not gonna be a big issue for him next season. The only thing I see being unrealistic is to reach San Remo in the needed form to attack on Cipressa. 4 1/2 month to Ardennes should be plenty of time, and then build for the Tour.

 

[Sciatic]

Almost zero people will look before opening a car door. Sometimes you can’t give enough room and you takes your chances.

Gotta protect yourself as a cyclist, not hope people are expecting you out there.

For folks in drive-on-the-right countries, we need to train people to open the drivers side door with their right hand (forces one to turn a bit and see what’s there.

ed Theyoungist beat me to it. And that’s great it’s become normalized for most Dutch drivers. I only heard about a few years and I would guess only .001 % of US drivers do so.

 

[Berniece]

Apparently the injury isn't as bad as first thought. He doesn't have a broken collarbone, but a dislocated collarbone. They'll put it back tonight, and expect him to ride a bike in 2 weeks. This was said by Patrick Lefevere.

Patrick Lefevere had nog even (valse) hoop dat letsels Evenepoel meevielen: "Moeten niet panikeren" | sporza

Hectische dag bij Soudal-Quick Step. Na de val van Remco Evenepoel was het wachten op een update over de medische balans. Ploegmanager Patrick Lefevere dacht even dat de tol nog zou meevallen, maar dat bleek niet het geval.

sporza.be

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Apparently the injury isn't as bad as first thought. He doesn't have a broken collarbone, but a dislocated collarbone. They'll put it back tonight, and expect him to ride a bike in 2 weeks. This was said by Patrick Lefevere.

Patrick Lefevere had nog even (valse) hoop dat letsels Evenepoel meevielen: "Moeten niet panikeren" | sporza

Hectische dag bij Soudal-Quick Step. Na de val van Remco Evenepoel was het wachten op een update over de medische balans. Ploegmanager Patrick Lefevere dacht even dat de tol nog zou meevallen, maar dat bleek niet het geval.

sporza.be

Yeah, but he also has a broken rib, a broken shoulder bone and a broken bone in his hand. His collarbone might not be broken and only dislocated but next to that he also has 2 bruised lungs.
Source: Sporza

Edit: The title of the article that Berniece posted above is: "Patrick Lefevre had false hope for a moment that the injuries weren't that bad"'
Clearly, you didn't read the article or your translation didn't work. But it's pretty clear that he won't ride in 2 weeks.
Lefevre thought he could be back on the bike in 2 weeks but that was before they learned of the other 3 broken bones and his lungs

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

For folks in drive-on-the-right countries, we need to train people to open the drivers side door with their right hand (forces one to turn a bit and see what’s there.

ed Theyoungist beat me to it. And that’s great it’s become normalized for most Dutch drivers. I only heard about a few years and I would guess only .001 % of US drivers do so.

Here in Belgium, it's mandatory to do so on your driving test, It's known as "the Dutch reach". Unfortunately it's one of the first things people no longer do after getting a license. Also, it's very hard to police.

Those postal vans distributing packages in Belgium are a pest. Don't know if Belgians on this forum might back me up on this but they're mostly driven by inexperienced drivers speeding and pulling over all the time. Every month or so you read about one ramming a house or one caught on a dashcam doing something completely mental. Won't be the last time this happened and it isn't the first time those vans caused accidents.

 

[red_flanders]

Yeah, but he also has a broken rib, a broken shoulder bone and a broken bone in his hand. His collarbone might not be broken and only dislocated but next to that he also has 2 bruised lungs.
Source: Sporza

Edit: The title of the article that Berniece posted above is: "Patrick Lefevre had false hope for a moment that the injuries weren't that bad"'
Clearly, you didn't read the article or your translation didn't work. But it's pretty clear that he won't ride in 2 weeks.
Lefevre thought he could be back on the bike in 2 weeks but that was before they learned of the other 3 broken bones and his lungs

The article, if you use the translate function, is fairly confusing. You can kinda parse it out, but you're not left feeling you got a very clear story.

 

[Berniece]

Yeah, but he also has a broken rib, a broken shoulder bone and a broken bone in his hand. His collarbone might not be broken and only dislocated but next to that he also has 2 bruised lungs.
Source: Sporza

Edit: The title of the article that Berniece posted above is: "Patrick Lefevre had false hope for a moment that the injuries weren't that bad"'
Clearly, you didn't read the article or your translation didn't work. But it's pretty clear that he won't ride in 2 weeks.
Lefevre thought he could be back on the bike in 2 weeks but that was before they learned of the other 3 broken bones and his lungs

I think I went over it too quickly. What I don't understand though, is that the doctor said he could ride a bike in 2 weeks. Also listening to the actual video, it seems Lefevere still thinks that.

So it seems that Sporza knows more that Lefevere then.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

I think I went over it too quickly. What I don't understand though, is that the doctor said he could ride a bike in 2 weeks. Also listening to the actual video, it seems Lefevere still thinks that.

Team doctor said that normally with a dislocated collarbone he should be able to race in 2 weeks. But that was before they learned of the other injuries. (Lefevre was interviewed before they knew aobut the broken bones)

 

[Unchained]

There are no cars on the trails with me.

* that you are aware of***drones,bears?**

 

[Unchained]

Team doctor said that normally with a dislocated collarbone he should be able to race in 2 weeks. But that was before they learned of the other injuries. (Lefevre was injured before they knew aobut the broken bones)

If reports about his hand are correct he will have some setbacks on top of any ongoing oral surgery issues from last month, he is still in a good window for winter volume like most top pros. A dislocated clavicle is a super, super lucky injury to get because recovery is way better than fracture.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

So recap of Remco's injuries:

Broken shoulder
Broken bone in right hand
Broken rib
Bruised lungs
Dislocated Collarbone

 

[Netserk]

I doubt it will affect his race program after March, but I guess we'll hear more about that in a couple of weeks.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Thanks for the OP for the feasability to change my vote on thread title. Changed my mind

Well-timed training crash.
If anything positive to say about the incident...

 

[Berniece]

I doubt it will affect his race program after March, but I guess we'll hear more about that in a couple of weeks.

But it’ll influence his chances during those races though

 

[stekelegel]

Here in Belgium, it's mandatory to do so on your driving test, It's known as "the Dutch reach". Unfortunately it's one of the first things people no longer do after getting a license. Also, it's very hard to police.

Those postal vans distributing packages in Belgium are a pest. Don't know if Belgians on this forum might back me up on this but they're mostly driven by inexperienced drivers speeding and pulling over all the time. Every month or so you read about one ramming a house or one caught on a dashcam doing something completely mental. Won't be the last time this happened and it isn't the first time those vans caused accidents.

Add to that the incredibly bad Belgian roads and road design, combining all kinds of traffic, congestion, and absolutely selfish and dangerous driving style of all road users… no offense but riding 50 kmh in a city center is often asking for trouble. I am a rider myself but half of the time I see incidents that could have been avoided by lowering speed and being careful.

 

[Sciatic]

Here in Belgium, it's mandatory to do so on your driving test, It's known as "the Dutch reach". Unfortunately it's one of the first things people no longer do after getting a license. Also, it's very hard to police.

Those postal vans distributing packages in Belgium are a pest. Don't know if Belgians on this forum might back me up on this but they're mostly driven by inexperienced drivers speeding and pulling over all the time. Every month or so you read about one ramming a house or one caught on a dashcam doing something completely mental. Won't be the last time this happened and it isn't the first time those vans caused accidents.

Wow, I wish we could get that on our driving test. I also wish that there was more than one test during a lifetime—most folks get their license at 16 and never take another test (or maybe some states require a simple one if you move there),

 

[houtdffan]

could make giro more likely.

He may need race days going into the tour now

 

[Netserk]

But it’ll influence his chances during those races though

Too soon to say if you compare his situation to that of Rogla before the 2023 season.

 

[Mayomaniac]

could make giro more likely.

He may need race days going into the tour now

Vintage Ulle prep, riding the Giro to loose some weight, while stealing a starting fee from the archclown Vegni.

 

[Bolder]

Don't top riders usually ride in front of or behind a car while training?

Not always, have seen plenty of pros riding solo in various parts of France, including an Orica guy on a TT bike bombing along the Cote d'Azur a few years back.

Regarding getting doored, I always, always make sure I have the 1.5 meter rule (here in France) in my head. Have survived 3 decades of urban riding, first in NYC and now in Paris. But with some very, very close calls...my city riding strategy is to always assume the worst.

 

[Berniece]

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[Didinho]

Those postal vans distributing packages in Belgium are a pest. Don't know if Belgians on this forum might back me up on this but they're mostly driven by inexperienced drivers speeding and pulling over all the time. Every month or so you read about one ramming a house or one caught on a dashcam doing something completely mental. Won't be the last time this happened and it isn't the first time those vans caused accidents.

It's 1% of the post people who ruin it for all the rest. It was a friendly woman who was devastated after the incident. It could be any car but it happened to be hers. I ride almost every day here and with my knowledge about post cars who stop frequiently I always be careful or go an extra meter around it. It was just an unfortunate accident, maybe she even checked her mirror but with Remco's speed and some road-islands he could be out of her sight. Or Remco was unattended for a moment.

Just so unlucky again.

Edit: the operation went well.