Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Krzysztof_O]

IMHO Rogla was hit with some unfounded ageism in the past, that got quickly resolved. In Remco case i would say fat shaming is something to address.

Remco would crush Pogi and Vingo at the Tour...if he wasn't fat!

 

[CyclistAbi]

Remco would crush Pogi and Vingo at the Tour...if he wasn't fat!

Indeed. Such unfunded, most of the time slurs, tend not to help. One can quickly educate oneself that fat shaming tends to be counterproductive. So if a bit of fat would really be the problem, fat shaming wouldn't resolve it in any meaningful way.

Some teams, for example, were pouring diesel into gasoline engines. Once that was addressed, now flying. A bit of fat on the plus or minus side, that seems to made no difference whatsoever.

 

[red_flanders]

Looks like he’s been at altitude in Tignes for a week, but not posting all his rides.Interesting that he did post a short one of 29 miles but nothing else I saw.

According to CN he did the Loze yesterday. Apparently it’s long, irregular, and hard. Stay tuned for more fascinating pre Tour revelations…

 

[Berniece]

Looks like he’s been at altitude in Tignes for a week, but not posting all his rides.Interesting that he did post a short one of 29 miles but nothing else I saw.

According to CN he did the Loze yesterday. Apparently it’s long, irregular, and hard. Stay tuned for more fascinating pre Tour revelations…

He also barely shared his training data from altitude before Dauphine. Must be because his numbers are good

 

[red_flanders]

Hopefully Remco wasn't just messing with us and didn't have something else in mind.

No idea what that means.

Just read:

João Almeida "is better than someone like Remco Evenepoel" - Can Tour de Suisse winner contest Tour de France podium?

Tadej Pogacar, Jonas Vingegaard and Remco Evenepoel will be taking the spotlight at this year's Tour de France overall classification battle, but it would be naive to think that no-one else has a chan...

cyclinguptodate.com

Don't think it's unreasonable to speculate on how strong Almeida might be in the Tour, Remco hasn't had a great year and Almeida has.

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[Berniece]

Hopefully Remco wasn't just messing with us and didn't have something else in mind. Just read:

João Almeida "is better than someone like Remco Evenepoel" - Can Tour de Suisse winner contest Tour de France podium?

Tadej Pogacar, Jonas Vingegaard and Remco Evenepoel will be taking the spotlight at this year's Tour de France overall classification battle, but it would be naive to think that no-one else has a chan...

cyclinguptodate.com

Well Almeida was impressive but the competition wasn’t in Suisse. I think he’ll ride top 5 in the TDF. He won’t be able to beat Evenepoel, and can’t hide behind “I’m a domestique”, because he’ll barely be able to do work for Pogacar. Or not the type of work that will have much of an impact on his own result.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Well, Almeida has won 3 of the top 7 one-week stage races this year; Remco has won 0 in his career. Having said that, I think Almeida has timed his chances for winning better than Remco.

 

[red_flanders]

Well, Almeida has won 3 of the top 7 one-week stage races this year; Remco has won 0 in his career. Having said that, I think Almeida has timed his chances for winning better than Remco.

I personally expect to see another level of Remco at the Tour, and Almeida will be someone constrained by team duties, but you're on point. Almeida has been riding exceptionally well this year, at another level than any previous.

I can see any number of scenarios where he gets on the podium, but it will be a challenge to best an unfettered Remco.

Well Almeida was impressive but the competition wasn’t in Suisse. I think he’ll ride top 5 in the TDF. He won’t be able to beat Evenepoel, and can’t hide behind “I’m a domestique”, because he’ll barely be able to do work for Pogacar. Or not the type of work that will have much of an impact on his own result.

It's a fair point about the competition, but without the advantage some of the lesser riders got on the first stage (?), he'd have been ahead by minutes. He destroyed everyone in that uphill TT.

Evenepoel hasn't looked that strong all year. Still expect another level, but I don't think Remco for the podium is any kind of slam dunk.

 

[Berniece]

Evenepoel hasn't looked that strong all year. Still expect another level, but I don't think Remco for the podium is any kind of slam dunk.

I don’t take Dauphine as a reference after his fall and his allergies. If he says he’s better than last year I don’t see anyone good enough to challenge him for third place except maybe Roglic in best form.

 

[red_flanders]

I don’t take Dauphine as a reference after his fall and his allergies. If he says he’s better than last year I don’t see anyone good enough to challenge him for third place except maybe Roglic in best form.

I hope you're right.

 

[peterfin]

I don’t take Dauphine as a reference after his fall and his allergies. If he says he’s better than last year I don’t see anyone good enough to challenge him for third place except maybe Roglic in best form.

The fact that he was furious on himself shows that he expected to do a lot better based on his altitude performance. I still expect him to repeat his podium spot without bad luck.

 

[Breh]

You are being overdramatic. In fact I think he needs to avoid Pogacar and Vingegaard and target the Giro. Del Toro will improve and will probably be a better climber in a very near future.
But Remco can win a Giro and avoid this Tour obsession.

He has 1 participation in 6 seasons as a pro, going on 2 out of 7. He races classics and 1week races, went to La Vuelta and Il Giro twice.

Hardly a Tour obsession.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The fact that he was furious on himself shows that he expected to do a lot better based on his altitude performance. I still expect him to repeat his podium spot without bad luck.

I have a different view on this. I think he isn't furious about his disappointing performance, I think he realised he is not closing the gap at all to his main rivals, specially Pogacar.
Even if he said the opposite, I hope the crash he had, took something from him and didn't let him perform at his best. If not, I can see a scenario where he collapse due to a mental blow (no teammates around him, Pogacar and Vingegaard being even more unreachable).

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Honestly, all the pessimistic takes make sense on paper, but then I remember Remco crashed hard last year in March and looked terrible in June at the Dauphine then showed up in great form in July…