Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

There is a first for everything.

About as much chance as Evenepoel winning the TDF this year. There's a first time for everything.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I don't expect him to win the TT tomorrow.

The TT is almost perfect for Remco and he's in a good form. His main rival on such course (Ganna) is gone. Neither Pogi nor Vingo have realistic chances to beat him there but, given their top form, they won't lose much.

 

[Berniece]

Evenepoel looked good during the race. Positioning and cornering was laughable, and no teammates is an issue, but his form was good. He wins tomorrow takes around 30s back. Expect more of him during longer climbs, will ride podium easily, and I actually think the gap with whoever wins will be smaller this year.

 

[P4rthen0n]

Remco has better legs than in the Dauphiné, but something's not quite right yet.

Today he did a great job bringing back Pogacar and Vingegaard after the last climb. That's on him.
At 1,8km to go he tried to attack but seemed to mess up a corner and Almeida caught up to him.
At about 550m to go Remco seemed to have blown up? Not the best of signs.

I'm curious to see what he has to say about the end of this stage.

He really needs a better team if he wants to compete for the Tour win. Unfortunately Landa crashed in the Giro, otherwise he could have been a massive help to Remco.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Long straights should play into his cards. Seems like the technical sections are mostly in the city center.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Evenepoel looked good during the race. Positioning and cornering was laughable, and no teammates is an issue, but his form was good. He wins tomorrow takes around 30s back. Expect more of him during longer climbs, will ride podium easily, and I actually think the gap with whoever wins will be smaller this year.

Positioning was laughable? I think that‘s not fair. He was well-positioned, otherwise he wouldn‘t have been up there today. And he did that basically without teammates.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Remco has better legs than in the Dauphiné, but something's not quite right yet.

Today he did a great job bringing back Pogacar and Vingegaard after the last climb. That's on him.
At 1,8km to go he tried to attack but seemed to mess up a corner and Almeida caught up to him.
At about 550m to go Remco seemed to have blown up? Not the best of signs.

I'm curious to see what he has to say about the end of this stage.

He really needs a better team if he wants to compete for the Tour win. Unfortunately Landa crashed in the Giro, otherwise he could have been a massive help to Remco.

Landa was gonna help Evenepoel in this finale? Right. Landa would have been dangling 30 seconds behind Roglic. The guy that should have helped him here was Schachmann.

Positioning was laughable? I think that‘s not fair. He was well-positioned, otherwise he wouldn‘t have been up there today. And he did that basically without teammates.

Thanks to him sprinting past 30 riders after each corner.

 

[houtdffan]

Tadej

Tadej?

He's more likely to lose 90 seconds to 2 minutes than he is to win tomorrow. Tadej's TT record is clearly his weakest

 

[P4rthen0n]

Landa was gonna help Evenepoel in this finale? Right. Landa would have been dangling 30 seconds behind Roglic. The guy that should have helped him here was Schachmann.

Did you see what Landa did last year in the Tour?
If he had the same form this year, he absolutely would have been able to help Remco today.

Remco had no team mate with him today, so he was forced to close the gap all by himself. That took a toll for sure.

 

[Berniece]

Positioning was laughable? I think that‘s not fair. He was well-positioned, otherwise he wouldn‘t have been up there today. And he did that basically without teammates.

He wasn't well-positioned. He had to come back from far a lot of times to get back into position. On his own too... If you are bad at positioning and your teammate is able to get you back, fine. But that wasn't the case he had to do it on his own.

 

[red_flanders]

Calm down, you (Remco fans) fear a lot Pogacar. No way Tadej beats Remco in a flat TT.

Whatever. I'm a fan of both, I just know how strong the guy is and I'm not seeing Remco in crazy good form. Not saying he will, but he certainly could.

Would be a first time he wins a flat TT against Remco.

Yup. Feels possible. I'd still bet on Remco, but I'll not be at all surprised if Pog wins.

 

[Tim Cahill]

8 mile Remco saying he thinks me might be able to take yellow tomorrow, a bold statement!! He also looks like he's about to drop the freshest track this side of the Detroit ghetto has ever seen.

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Remco Evenepoel : "Il y a moyen de reprendre les 58 secondes sur Van der Poel et Pogacar demain je pense. C'est complètement plat, on a vu l'avantage que j'ai pris sur Tadej lors du Dauphiné. Ça me convient très​

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Remco Evenepoel: "There’s a chance to make up the 58 seconds on Van der Poel and Pogacar tomorrow, I think. It’s completely flat, we saw the advantage I took over Tadej during the Dauphiné. It suits me perfectly."​

 

[SHAD0W93]

Evenepoel pulling a 2012 Wiggins would be crazy.

 

[KenFiamingo]

8 mile Remco saying he thinks me might be able to take yellow tomorrow, a bold statement!! He also looks like he's about to drop the freshest track this side of the Detroit ghetto has ever seen.

Tomorrow he'll be 20.5 mile Remco.

 

[Extinction]

Tadej?

He's more likely to lose 90 seconds to 2 minutes than he is to win tomorrow. Tadej's TT record is clearly his weakest

I don't think so, with his current form he may defy logic.

 

[Kedjan]

I think Remco will be on a mission tomorrow. He looked better today but is still a bit pissed after the first 4 stages. That's exactly what he needs to charge up that energy only Remco can, and then smash the time trial.

I think yellow is a possibility, especially if it's headwind.

 

[Cycling111]

He has trouble handling the bike. He takes corners very poorly.

It reminded me of the World Championships in Glasgow. It was very bad because it was a street circuit with many curves.

 

[Red Rick]

There's a chance, but it's not that high normally.

Pogacar and Vingegaard don't *** around in TTs in the Tour de France.

 

[FroomeWagon]

Oddsmakers have Remco as the overwhelming favorite tomorrow. Interesting that Vingegaard is projected as second. Maybe the Dauphine TT still fresh in everyones mind?

 

[Unchained]

8 mile Remco saying he thinks me might be able to take yellow tomorrow, a bold statement!! He also looks like he's about to drop the freshest track this side of the Detroit ghetto has ever seen.


Tomorrow he'll be 20.5 mile Remco.

Slim Shady Evenepoel!!

 

[jmdirt]

RE's form looked solid today.

He definitely needs a riding coach. He's hardly the only pro in that situation though, I'm frequently shocked by some of the poor riding from guys who spend so much time on their bikes.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Did you see what Landa did last year in the Tour?
If he had the same form this year, he absolutely would have been able to help Remco today.

Remco had no team mate with him today, so he was forced to close the gap all by himself. That took a toll for sure.

Yes, Landa didn't do much last year except be in Evenepoel 's wheel until the penultimate day when he pulled a bit. Landa would not have been in that first group. Skjelmose, Roglic. Vauquelin, Van Aert... weren't even able to follow, but you think Landa would have.

 

[KoopaCycling]

I would agree with Vingegaard coming 2nd and taking yellow tomorrow.
At least if it's true he put on some extra muscle to have more watts.

 

[KoopaCycling]

@Valv.Piti

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If i read correctly yesterday team boss said Remco is here to win the Tour, not to finish third. As for you saying UAE and Visma, that for them it doesn't make any sense to bring in a sprinter. I agree. Acting like bringing a sprinter didn't cost Remco nothing in first three stages, it did. Some time and potentially a crash, that might have been prevented otherwise.

@KoopaCycling

We had this same discussion with @Berniece. The idea on how the best strategy is for them both to finish together at the finish line, holding hands, that is indeed a nice outcome, the reality on the other hand being it doesn't tend to work like that. On sprint stages GC leader needs a dedicated and attentive team to support them, not top notch sprinter. It's nice and everything, seeing Remco going all out for his sprinter but from GC point of view this is amateurish approach.

As for Rogla indeed, the main argument, social media, was lets bring a sprinter, as Rogla crashes a lot. Some even advocated for a bunch of youngsters going loose. Like that somehow will magically bring them stage wins. Jeez.

I'm starting to think you did not watch the actual stage. I could have understood if you mentioned paret peintre pulling won't do much, i would have understood if you mentioned red bull saving some people for the sprint but you don't mention anything particular about the stage and the actual situation at hand. You're just putting forth the general idea without getting into the actual bread and butter. If you don't want to analyse the situation that's fine. But don't pretend your comments are about the actual stage and situation. Just say that in general that is your viewpoint. In this stage your viewpoint has little to do with actual reality of xhat happened in the stage.

 

[Cycling111]

RE's form looked solid today.

He definitely needs a riding coach. He's hardly the only pro in that situation though, I'm frequently shocked by some of the poor riding from guys who spend so much time on their bikes.

Remco is fortunate that there are less downhill finishes. Last year, his descent on the Galibier was terrible.
And he also has many technical limitations on the corners. At the World Championships in Glasgow, he lost all options as soon as they entered at the street circuit.

Luckily for him, GTs are increasingly including less urban circuts, although in the Tour there are inevitably some, and downhill finishes.

But these are things he should improve on.
The Giro often has downhill finishes, and he could lose a lot of time ard to those kinds of difficulties.