Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[wheresmybrakes]

If he is really serious about winning the Tour, he needs to start doing something about it, and not relying on the other 2 to either crash out, or get ill. Being a constant 3rd in the tour surely can't be his aim. Win or nothing, or go for one of the other 2 GT's. Get attacking boy, and give the other 2 something to think about.

 

[KoopaCycling]

If he is really serious about winning the Tour, he needs to start doing something about it, and not relying on the other 2 to either crash out, or get ill. Being a constant 3rd in the tour surely can't be his aim. Win or nothing, or go for one of the other 2 GT's. Get attacking boy, and give the other 2 something to think about.

Or you could win a GT by one well timed attack after managing to stay close a la Simon Yates

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

If he is really serious about winning the Tour, he needs to start doing something about it, and not relying on the other 2 to either crash out, or get ill. Being a constant 3rd in the tour surely can't be his aim. Win or nothing, or go for one of the other 2 GT's. Get attacking boy, and give the other 2 something to think about.

"Being a constant 3rd"...

It's his 2nd Tour.
It only just began.
And he's currently 2nd in GC, the only rider within a minute of yellow.

 

[Extinction]

If he is really serious about winning the Tour, he needs to start doing something about it, and not relying on the other 2 to either crash out, or get ill. Being a constant 3rd in the tour surely can't be his aim. Win or nothing, or go for one of the other 2 GT's. Get attacking boy, and give the other 2 something to think about.

I here what you are saying, but now's still the time to play the tactical long game and see if he can go with Tadej and Vingo when they attack. He still has another year to test that, after which, if he can't handle their pace, then he should get attacking.

 

[houtdffan]

he needs to quit trying to win on their terrain and use the first week to gain time, ride some of the stages as if they are 1 day classics

 

[Valv.Piti]

Time to try something today Remco, this is a perfect stage with what looks like a good setup

 

[Extinction]

Time to try something today Remco, this is a perfect stage with what looks like a good setup

Yea, he should try something today. "As long as I breath, I attack!", said a certain Hinault.

 

[Snake]

At minimum effort his legs are cooked

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Battle for third is what its about

 

[Extinction]

Nothing to do, when Tadej attacks Remco cannot follow.

 

[AlpRaid]

other than the potential of a bad day in the mountains taking remco out of podium contention, I think jorgeson is the real threat.

visma will not sacrifice him in a long range attack unless he is down on GC.

in the meantime, they may hardly need to use him or burn him out as last man to launch vingo. chances are pog will attack before then. vingo will try to match.

meanwhile jorgenson will simply need to follow remco. near the top, he can then drop him each time (much like at Dauphiné).

with no other flat ITTs to recoup time, the 39" lost on the first day may come into play (not for victory) but for the last step on the podium.

lol. exactly as I suggested. ;-)

even after Jorgenson attacked a few times, he then just had to follow a very tired looking remco. I don't think the podium looks good for remco if he struggles on a stage that should be perfect for him.

 

[Snake]

This is the guy who won 2 LBL btw, it's not about pogacar or vingeegard, we all know 2 aliens are from another stratosphere

 

[KoopaCycling]

Looked as good as the rest of the humans. There are 2 clearly better.
I think he was as good as Lipo, and maybe a smudge worse than Jorgenson today.
But all in all their level seemed about the same today.

 

[AlpRaid]

I think he is done for this tour. I would not be shocked by a Vuelta 2023 collapse on one of the high mountain stages. he is running out of gas. only so many times you can skip winter foundation training recovering from injury and hurry your prep.

 

[Didinho]

He’s gonna need to keep doing his own pace in the high mountains, hoping he can drop at least Jorgenson as soon as possible. Lipowitz looks like a contender for his podium spot.
Remco looks worse than last year to all of us, don’t think he can get better. I’m thinking he is better with a steady pace than all the accelerations. Hope he can stay consistent every stage.

 

[Frobisher Bay]

Pff, this doesn't bode well. Seems cooked, pathetic acceleration and when Pogi counters he slams back in the saddle as if he were Al Bundy. Then he pulls the rest to the line to get distanced in the sprint...
Off course and once again not helped by his team mates: what's the point of having Van Wilder up on front? He couldn't keep up with the first accelaration and was gone from the peloton 50 km off the finish. What a total bust.

 

[Red Rick]

I think he is done for this tour. I would not be shocked by a Vuelta 2023 collapse on one of the high mountain stages. he is running out of gas. only so many times you can skip winter foundation training recovering from injury and hurry your prep.

Bwah God it's overreaction FC again.

He looked pretty mid but not terrible.

 

[houtdffan]

He’s gonna need to keep doing his own pace in the high mountains, hoping he can drop at least Jorgenson as soon as possible. Lipowitz looks like a contender for his podium spot.
Remco looks worse than last year to all of us, don’t think he can get better. I’m thinking he is better with a steady pace than all the accelerations. Hope he can stay consistent every stage.

then he needs to go to the front and ride a damn steady pace!

 

[AlpRaid]

Bwah God it's overreaction FC again.

He looked pretty mid but not terrible.

lol.

doesn't need to be terrible to drop piles of minutes.

he looks like Vuelta 2023 before collapse, if not worse. inconsistent, lacking any punch, tired and unable to separate himself from most of the secondary GC riders.

 

[Rou]

I agree that Remco looks slightly worse than last year. Doing a meme attack and getting dropped like a stone on this hill?
I didn't expect it but let's hope for the best.
I expect him to follow Pog on this short climb when Pog attacks from a slow pace.

 

[AlpRaid]

Looked as good as the rest of the humans.

he really didn't tbh.

I am leaning more and more to his giving up the GT GC dream as his career goal. he can be such an exciting rider but in GTs he is pretty boring to watch (because he has to be to survive). he just becomes like all the other top ten candidates, riding as hard as they can until they are dropped.

 

[KoopaCycling]

Everyone except Vingegaard got dropped. Then stayed in Remco's draft next km and a half. Jorgenson was prob. a smudge better cause he needed to work beforehand. But not much. Lipo, Roglic were not better. Onley and Johannessen all that were there in the same group besides those already mentioned, rest got dropped.. So basically he was okay, but not great. Same as he's been whole tour really. When last tour he was clearly best of the humans, now he's as good as the best of the humans.

 

[Karl Merckx]

lol.

doesn't need to be terrible to drop piles of minutes.

he looks like Vuelta 2023 before collapse, if not worse. inconsistent, lacking any punch, tired and unable to separate himself from most of the secondary GC riders.

you clearly didn't watch the Vuelta 2023 because he was super punchy back then...

 

[KoopaCycling]

you clearly didn't watch the Vuelta 2023 because he was super punchy back then...

I still think it was not the legs but the stress that got to him. He was facing a 1 vs 3 man battle on a mediocre team. Against a strong Visma team that were putting the pressure on him by attacking without rest. Kuss, Roglic, Vingegaard taking turns.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Bwah God it's overreaction FC again.

He looked pretty mid but not terrible.

Really? I think he looked really bad. On a stage like this, at this point of the race, I think Remco should comfortably be the third best rider. On the long mountain stages, I'd be surprised if notat least Lipo would be stronger, Joao definitely would, and probably Gall as well.

IMO really disappointing showing