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Like I said, time’s on his side, but also there’s been rather a lot of good cyclists over the years.
Apart from a vuelta he hasn’t won a major stage race, only won one of the monuments, plenty of time but he needs to win a lot in the next 2 or 3 years.
I can’t see him staying at the top level as long as some.
Only one of the monuments… how many different riders have won the last 8?
 
Maybe, but a big man pushing big watts seems the most direct way to obtain the hour record
It's not like Ganna ain't somewhat aero. But it's true remco is really aero and has a more than decent engine.
Could be interesting. I still think Ganna holds the advantage there despite remco aero. However remco though not a track cyclist is not entirely unfamiliar with the track. as evidenced in one of his youtube videos.

All in all, Ganna power coupled with his cda has the upper hand for me in the one hour record.
Still i can't say remco can't do it. Betting against Remco in a tt is hard to do, even if my gut feeling tells me otherwise.
Ganna did not look super impressive from what i remember during his attempt. Like he was not at his very best. So i don't think it's an unbeatable record either.
 
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Maybe, but a big man pushing big watts seems the most direct way to obtain the hour record
It's not like Ganna ain't somewhat aero. But it's true remco is really aero and has a more than decent engine.
Could be interesting. I still think Ganna holds the advantage there despite remco aero. However remco though not a track cyclist is not entirely unfamiliar with the track. as evidenced in one of his youtube videos.

All in all, Ganna power coupled with his cda has the upper hand for me in the one hour record.
Still i can't say remco can't do it. Betting against Remco in a tt is hard to do, even if my gut feeling tells me otherwise.
Ganna did not look super impressive from what i remember during his attempt. Like he was not at his very best. So i don't think it's an unbeatable record either.
I also think Ganna can do better and beat the 57 km/h mark. However, Evenepoel's aero advantage will shine at the speeds on the track which are a few km/h faster than the typical flat TT. He has shown to increase the gap with Ganna in a headwind, so when the relative speed of the biker versus the air is also higher. The 2023 giro TT is an example. I think 57.5 km/h is feasible for him.
 
Only one of the monuments… how many different riders have won the last 8?
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Which goes to show that even though Evenepoel has won 5 major one day races, it's not a given that he'll keep winning them at the same rate he's done previously, and if anything it's likely to go down rather than up. He has yet to prove he can hang with Pogacar in a Liege/Lombardia style race, and he hasn't even attempted the others.
 
I don’t deny he is very talented and a beast on the tt , only think he’s not quite got the mountain credentials for the tour that’s all, also maybe not the smartest or most tactical of riders but that can be improved with age sometimes. This is why I like riders like Nibali or Gimondi maybe not quite the supreme athlete of their rivals but clever enough to compete by being smart.
 
Only one of the monuments… how many different riders have won the last 8?
My point is it’s much too early to be talking about him as top ten of all time, so much can happen either way.
At the moment he’s much below Pogacar, Froome, Roglic and maybe Vingegaard of current riders, still well off guys like Contador, Nibali, Boonen and Cancellera of recent riders.
If* all the right things happen for him I think top 25-30 will be right for him but who knows
 
My point is it’s much too early to be talking about him as top ten of all time, so much can happen either way.
At the moment he’s much below Pogacar, Froome, Roglic and maybe Vingegaard of current riders, still well off guys like Contador, Nibali, Boonen and Cancellera of recent riders.
If* all the right things happen for him I think top 25-30 will be right for him but who knows
Anything can always happen to anyone. That goes for every rider
 
Ganna broke it after coming 7th at the WC ITT or whatever, he wasn't even flying when he did it, and it was set in 2022 and they've all gotten stronger since. Ganna is also less naturally aerodynamic, and it wouldn't surprise me if he struggled physically more to stay in position for the full hour than Evenepoel would. So performance wise there is almost 0 reason to doubt Evenepoel would crush it.

The problem with the hour record isn't performance it's almost completely timing, preperation and interest. The only convenient time is after Lombardia, when you're already tired, and then you probably have to invest a lot of time and effort during the season to prepare everything to do it, cause you don't wanna do it half assed and beat it by 500m.
 
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I found out the real reason why Remco stopped in the TdF. He had tickets for Tomorrowland.
 
Foré talking about the importance of a contract. Sure enough but if cycling is not careful they might end up in a similar situation as football. no way those contracts where you can't quit and join a new company hold up before european law.
Not that I think remco would ever take it as far as WVA & Uitdebroeks did. But their needs to be some perspective.

I understand how fragile the ecosytem is, and how you can't just let a rider annul his contract like that. But if people want to leave, then you can't just play hardball. Them saying they were there for remco during his hard times is true enough, but remco was also there winning them stuff. A more balanced view is in order imo.

If i'm a top rider i'm making sure i have buyout clauses in my contract. You never know if things turn sour.
 
My point is it’s much too early to be talking about him as top ten of all time, so much can happen either way.
At the moment he’s much below Pogacar, Froome, Roglic and maybe Vingegaard of current riders, still well off guys like Contador, Nibali, Boonen and Cancellera of recent riders.
If* all the right things happen for him I think top 25-30 will be right for him but who knows
more like top 3
 

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