Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Red Rick]

I think it's insane to say that Evenepoel was just as impressive on Sierra Nevada as Almeida was on Angliru.

Hey now, LR did give him the highest W/kg for that climb even though he got dropped

 

[AmRacer]

The logic is that Remco is not a GT rider cause he could not win a GT against a healthy Vingegaard and healthy Pogacar.

Meanwhile Almeida, Pidcock and company are GT riders cause they could not beat a sick Vingegaard.
And Almeida is therefore also a better GT rider than Remco. And a healthy Remco would barely crack the Top 5 in this year Vuelta.

Solid logic.

Can't wait to see a healthy Remco next year.

Remco didn't beat anyone this year in the Tour.

 

[greyclouds]

The logic is that Remco is not a GT rider cause he could not win a GT against a healthy Vingegaard and healthy Pogacar.

Meanwhile Almeida, Pidcock and company are GT riders cause they could not beat a sick Vingegaard.
And Almeida is therefore also a better GT rider than Remco. And a healthy Remco would barely crack the Top 5 in this year Vuelta.

Solid logic.

Can't wait to see a healthy Remco next year.

I haven’t seen anything that Remco is not a GT rider? Likewise didn’t see anyone saying that Pidcock is a better GT rider than Remco… If you didn’t see this Vuelta how can you make any sort of comparisons?

 

[KoopaCycling]

I haven’t seen anything that Remco is not a GT rider? Likewise didn’t see anyone saying that Pidcock is a better GT rider than Remco… If you didn’t see this Vuelta how can you make any sort of comparisons?

Just re-read the remco forum. It's all there.

 

[red_flanders]

I haven’t seen anything that Remco is not a GT rider? Likewise didn’t see anyone saying that Pidcock is a better GT rider than Remco… If you didn’t see this Vuelta how can you make any sort of comparisons?

Been going on for years, and even after…he won a GT.

My favorite was when someone compared his talent/ceiling to Thomas De Gendt. Admittedly that was years ago, but still makes me laugh…

 

[Charlyghoul]

Been going on for years, and even after…he won a GT.

My favorite was when someone compared his talent/ceiling to Thomas De Gendt. Admittedly that was years ago, but still makes me laugh…

Cunego is the ‘in vogue’ Remco comparison

 

[Peyroteo94]

The logic is that Remco is not a GT rider cause he could not win a GT against a healthy Vingegaard and healthy Pogacar.

Meanwhile Almeida, Pidcock and company are GT riders cause they could not beat a sick Vingegaard.
And Almeida is therefore also a better GT rider than Remco. And a healthy Remco would barely crack the Top 5 in this year Vuelta.

Solid logic.

Can't wait to see a healthy Remco next year.

Who said Remco is not a GT rider? Not me for sure.
Remco was as impressive as Almeida in Angliru, really???

 

[Peyroteo94]

Reality is, if Almeida is the rider you all make him out to be, he would have won this vuelta.
He did not. In the end he barely finished ahead of Pidcock.

What excuse, you said you saw something Evenepoel never did. I think Evenepoel Sierra Nevada stage was just as impressive. That took grit. Never seen Almeida in the trenches truly fight for it. He settled for second this vuelta as well. Remco would have at least tried.

What are you saying? Try to not put words in my mouth, please.

 

[KoopaCycling]

Obviously i'm adressing the crowd who posted what i was referring to.
Yes, i watched that stage now. I'm sorry but that was not as impressive as you made it out to be.
Almeida was strong enough, but i've seen remco just as strong. And seen more impressive stages from him. ultimately he did not manage to put any time in Jonas and barely any time in Kuss and Hindley.

 

[AmRacer]

Obviously i'm adressing the crowd who posted what i was referring to.
Yes, i watched that stage now. I'm sorry but that was not as impressive as you made it out to be.

I can think of several GT stages where Remco was more impressive.

I can think of none.

 

[Red Rick]

Been going on for years, and even after…he won a GT.

My favorite was when someone compared his talent/ceiling to Thomas De Gendt. Admittedly that was years ago, but still makes me laugh…

De Gendt makes sense in terms of attributes, but not in terms of level

 

[KoopaCycling]

De Gendt makes sense in terms of attributes, but not in terms of level

De Gendt is a solid rider, but no. makes no sense

 

[red_flanders]

De Gendt makes sense in terms of attributes, but not in terms of level

I have no idea how that makes sense to anyone. RDS is my only answer.

 

[KoopaCycling]

I will say this. Next GT Remco enters, i won't take it as certain he'll finish the race, let alone podium it.
Too much has happened, and i will need to see remco prove himself again. Which i don't like. Cause Remco seems to need to prove himself again and again, far more than other riders. But i would need to see it first again.

But if we're talking about a Remco pre-winter injury, and assuming he can return to where he left off. It's an entirely different matter. And to say that that version of Remco is not a GT rider, and would not crack top 5 this vuelta, and is worse than the riders riding top 5 here. I can't take that seriously. Aside from Vingegaard, whom i feel would have been able to dig deep, deeper than what Almeida seemingly managed to push him to.

 

[AmRacer]

I will say this. Next GT Remco enters, i won't take it as certain he'll finish the race, let alone podium it.

This is Remco, pre crash or not.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I will say this. Next GT Remco enters, i won't take it as certain he'll finish the race, let alone podium it.
Too much has happened, and i will need to see remco prove himself again. Which i don't like. Cause Remco seems to need to prove himself again and again, far more than other riders. But i would need to see it first again.

But if we're talking about a Remco pre-winter injury, and assuming he can return to where he left off. It's an entirely different matter. And to say that that version of Remco is not a GT rider, and would not crack top 5 this vuelta, and is worse than the riders riding top 5 here. I can't take that seriously. Aside from Vingegaard, whom i feel would have been able to dig deep, deeper than what Almeida seemingly managed to push him to.

We all had the opportunity to see Remco after his best season ever in the Giro and Vuelta (2023) and his results were horrible.

 

[KoopaCycling]

We all had the opportunity to see Remco after his best season ever in the Giro and Vuelta (2023) and his results were horrible.

We both know that if i respond with why his giro failed or that he was in pink when illness came you'll just be calling it an excuse. I would also take Remco 23 over Almeida from an overall perspective. Just GT wise it's harder to choose. Almeida got a podium and a stage. remco got 5 stages and polka dots. From a performance perspective i would tend to take the podium over polka dots. from a legacy perspective, i rather have the polka dots. only fanatics remembers podiums. Only what was won is usually remembered.

 

[Peyroteo94]

We both know that if i respond with why his giro failed or that he was in pink when illness came you'll just be calling it an excuse.

Everything can be an excuse. The ability to stay healthy is one of the main strenghts of world class GT riders.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Hey now, LR did give him the highest W/kg for that climb even though he got dropped

It's not surprising if he was setting the pace on a shallow section and lost little time, is it?

 

[KoopaCycling]

Everything can be an excuse. The ability to stay healthy is one of the main strenghts of world class GT riders.

yes well, covid gave us a strange time.

 

[Red Rick]

It's not surprising if he was setting the pace on a shallow section and lost little time, is it?

It is when you lose over half a minute, and it's not like Evenepoel never had help from a teammate or that Mas and MAL never did their own work. *** made no sense, and it's not the only time LR have nonsensically boosted his numbers

 

[Berniece]

Everything can be an excuse. The ability to stay healthy is one of the main strenghts of world class GT riders.

Idiotic take. Pogacar had COVID before TDF '24. How would it have went if he had it during TDF? And we literally had to hear from Pogacar fans that the only reason he wasn't as good at the end of the TDF was because he was sick...

 

[Charlyghoul]

At the end of the day, all said and done. We need to see Remco next year to truly scrutinise his credentials going forward in terms of grand tours.
I still maintain he should base a season around the giro, but whether that will happen, doubtful.
It seems a mistake to target the tour because he has no chance against Pog or Ving, why would his new team want him to focus on the tour? Surely it’s better to go all out for a giro and then look at the tour the next year or the year after

 

[Karl Merckx]

Hey now, LR did give him the highest W/kg for that climb even though he got dropped

Not true, they gave the best W/Kg to MAL then to Remco, which makes perfect sense if you watched the race.

 

[peterfin]

If you miss two days here it's almost impossible to catch up. This thread keeps goes on and on with hyptothetical discussions about Remco's performance in races he didn't participate in with the majority apparantly from people who aren't fans but just have an opinion on him. If in the future people ask why there is so much hype here or why this thread is so long, don't blame the few fans that post here.