Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[peterfin]

No problem! I view Remco the way I view soccer: I want to be a fan, I try to be a fan, I can occasionally get caught up in the moment, but I just can’t seem to get all the way there.

You will get there.

 

[Berniece]

The part are more take issue is with the team dynamics. Coming in and taking the former team leader’s spot as top dog and preventing him from riding the Tour just is what it is, the world keeps moving as people rise and fall, but the clunky comments to the press about Roglic and the 2022 Tour, the comments that he would have won the 2023 Giro (which his teammate Roglic won), and as far as I am aware zero effort to say anything positive about Roglic (whereas Roglic said a lot of really nice things) just doesn’t seem like good sportsmanship. Having said that, I think he just is not that guy. I’d prefer if he was more consistently classy. (Doesn’t mean I think he’s a bad person.)

I think you read articles that deliberately took things out of context for the clicks. As far as I know he didn't say anything bad about TDF 2022. The reason why he said: I was scared to mention it on stage, was because for Roglic that wasn't the best experience because of his crash. Sure the team won, but Evenepoel also understands that Roglic also missed an opportunity to win the TDF there. While also understanding that if they want to defeat Pogacar, it works better with two than a 1-on-1 fight.

 

[AmRacer]

I think you read articles that deliberately took things out of context for the clicks. As far as I know he didn't say anything bad about TDF 2022. The reason why he said: I was scared to mention it on stage, was because for Roglic that wasn't the best experience because of his crash. Sure the team won, but Evenepoel also understands that Roglic also missed an opportunity to win the TDF there. While also understanding that if they want to defeat Pogacar, it works better with two than a 1-on-1 fight.

Yeah, but there's a Jonas factor as well.

 

[red_flanders]

I don't think Remco said anything negative about Roglic. But i do think Roglic and his fans can feel that way.

Roglic fans are remarkably triggered by Evenepoel, as any long-time reader of either thread can see.

Never got why you can't like both guys for their respective outstanding qualities and critique both guys for their respective foibles.

Fandom can be so dumb.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Roglic fans are remarkably triggered by Evenepoel, as any long-time reader of either thread can see.

Well, this is a rather one sided view so some self reflection wouldn't hurt here. But indeed the gist of it is correct.

Never got why you can't like both guys for their respective outstanding qualities and critique both guys for their respective foibles.

Actually yes, especially as now they are team mates and on top of that it doesn't seem they will race together all that much in the 2026 season. So the fixation is rather strange, exactly what i pointed out in our earlier discussion, the one that took the unexpected U turn.

Fandom can be so dumb.

I guess this is mostly by design.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Well, this is a rather one sided view so some self reflection wouldn't hurt here. But indeed the gist of it is correct.

Yeah, this is definitely a 2 way street.

 

[KoopaCycling]

Yeah, this is definitely a 2 way street.

To a certain extent. Can't help but feel a lot of people purposely visit the Remco thread to bash remco and his fans.
Maybe i'm wrong in assuming this happens less in the Roglic, Pogacar & Vingegaard thread. Don't really know as i barely visit those. So this assumption is just a gut feeling, not actually based on known facts.

All I known is i have several people on ignore as their only purpose seemed to be bashing Remco. I don't miss seeing their posts, as i personally don't feel they ever contributed something useful to this thread. Never felt they offered any insights, news, perspective, ... . just bashing.

Hell , I don't even know if these people are still doing that, or the situation has improved. All i know is this thread has improved for me personally since I decided to cut them off my feed.

I don't mind criticism of me or a rider, as long as it's fueled by rationale. I felt for too many it was simply fueled by something more than dislike.

 

[AmRacer]

To a certain extent. Can't help but feel a lot of people purposely visit the Remco thread to bash remco and his fans.
Maybe i'm wrong in assuming this happens less in the Roglic, Pogacar & Vingegaard thread. Don't really know as i barely visit those. So this assumption is just a gut feeling, not actually based on known facts.

All I known is i have several people on ignore as their only purpose seemed to be bashing Remco. I don't miss seeing their posts, as i personally don't feel they ever contributed something useful to this thread. Never felt they offered any insights, news, perspective, ... . just bashing.

Hell , I don't even know if these people are still doing that, or the situation has improved. All i know is this thread has improved for me personally since I decided to cut them off my feed.

I don't mind criticism of me or a rider, as long as it's fueled by rationale. I felt for too many it was simply fueled by something more than dislike.

When fanboys are telling things that's not entirely true or twisting the narrative, they will of course be challenged. Some fanboys are then getting upset.

 

[peterfin]

When fanboys are telling things that's not entirely true or twisting the narrative, they will of course be challenged. Some fanboys are then getting upset.

He can't read your reply.

 

[AmRacer]

He can't read your reply.

That's funny 😁

 

[Red Rick]

Evenepoel talking about challenging Pogacar fans while his fans are still in a stalemate with Roglic fans fighting over some trench in an obscure theather WW1 style is remarkably poetic.

 

[Berniece]

Evenepoel talking about challenging Pogacar fans while his fans are still in a stalemate with Roglic fans fighting over some trench in an obscure theather WW1 style is remarkably poetic.

That’s offseason for you

 

[Hugh Januss]

That’s offseason for you

Don't say off season, say cyclocross season!

 

[KoopaCycling]

Personally my problem with cyclocross is, i only care about a few races

- Overijse
- Koppenberg
- Koksijde
- Diegem
- Zonhoven
- Hoogerheide

-UEC, BK, WC.

And i'm being generous with that list.

 

[vappaxbipmv]

Personally my problem with cyclocross is, i only care about a few races

- Overijse
- Koppenberg
- Koksijde
- Diegem
- Zonhoven
- Hoogerheide

-UEC, BK, WC.

And i'm being generous with that list.

Personally my problem with cyclocross is that I don't care about it at all😂

Why is this in the Remco thread?

 

[Cookster15]

To a certain extent. Can't help but feel a lot of people purposely visit the Remco thread to bash remco and his fans.
Maybe i'm wrong in assuming this happens less in the Roglic, Pogacar & Vingegaard thread. Don't really know as i barely visit those. So this assumption is just a gut feeling, not actually based on known facts.

Using the ignore feature can be helpful. But I haven't got the impression people visit the Remco thread just to to attack members who are Remco fans. More likely they will post because they disagree about something claimed by Remco or his fans. But if you feel there is trolling or harassment feel free to report that and we can take a look at it.

 

[KoopaCycling]

-That’s offseason for you
-Don't say off season, say cyclocross season!
-Personally my problem with cyclocross is, i only care about a few races
- Personally my problem with cyclocross is that I don't care about it at all

Flow of the thread (hence why it's in the remco thread)

 

[Berniece]

Personally my problem with cyclocross is that I don't care about it at all😂

Why is this in the Remco thread?

He doesn't use the quote button enough