Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Extinction]

I'm not sure if that is the answer. "Everyone should spend one year driving crash up derby before driving on public roads".

Driving a car on public roads has nothing to do with crash up derby, nor does the latter have to do with bike racing. Remco did his first pro years, what he could have done in the under-23 ranks, where the speeds are higher than the juniors, but less than the pros. A developing rider has the opportunity to acclimate to the ever increasing speeds and distances as he moves up the ladder. Instead, Remco went from the lower speeds, with shorter distances, to the highest speeds and longest distances overnight, without an intermediate level to hone his craft. He was ready physically for the pros but, in his personal case, not technically and it probably almost cost his life in Lombardia.

 

[jmdirt]

Driving a car on public roads has nothing to do with crash up derby, nor does the latter have to do with bike racing. Remco did his first pro years, what he could have done in the under-23 ranks, where the speeds are higher than the juniors, but less than the pros. A developing rider has the opportunity to acclimate to the ever increasing speeds and distances as he moves up the ladder. Instead, Remco went from the lower speeds, with shorter distances, to the highest speeds and longest distances overnight, without an intermediate level to hone his craft. He was ready physically for the pros but, in his personal case, not technically and it probably almost cost his life in Lombardia.

I envy you for living off of the grid.

 

[Extinction]

I envy you for living off of the grid.

I know it's difficult to take a hard look in the mirror and this is what you see.🤣

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[KoopaCycling]

Driving a car on public roads has nothing to do with crash up derby, nor does the latter have to do with bike racing. Remco did his first pro years, what he could have done in the under-23 ranks, where the speeds are higher than the juniors, but less than the pros. A developing rider has the opportunity to acclimate to the ever increasing speeds and distances as he moves up the ladder. Instead, Remco went from the lower speeds, with shorter distances, to the highest speeds and longest distances overnight, without an intermediate level to hone his craft. He was ready physically for the pros but, in his personal case, not technically and it probably almost cost his life in Lombardia.

Until Lombardia the season was going well and he was learning and adapting.
For all we know he could have crashed hard in an under 23 race well.

 

[Extinction]

Until Lombardia the season was going well and he was learning and adapting.
For all we know he could have crashed hard in an under 23 race well.

True, he was learning and adapting in a sort cramming for the exam, which metaphorically, in this case, was the particularly brutal descent in Lombardia and he failed miserably due to a lack of "deep learning" experience. I honesty don't know how anybody could think that a year or two in the u-23 ranks would not have benefitted him. Remember he only started riding a few years before turning pro and as a junior he mostly rode alone, head and shoulders as he was above everyone else, which did not prepare him adequately in terms of race craft, like fighting for position or descending mountains. And it was patently evident early in his career.

 

[Berniece]

Until Lombardia the season was going well and he was learning and adapting.
For all we know he could have crashed hard in an under 23 race well.

Doubt he crashes when he’s going solo for 50km’s to the finish

 

[Netserk]

It's easy to say his crash was because of technical inabilities just because it's him. He was racing his heart out to stay ahead of the peleton while it happened. A hole, blurred vision, slower reaction time, not thinking sharp ... whatever happened it's not because he can't pass a roundabout that he crashed.

has any other rider ever gone down like that without being blamed for it ?

the special treatment could be just the opposite

 

[Extinction]

has any other rider ever gone down like that without being blamed for it ?

the special treatment could be just the opposite

Everbody blames him for it, but not everyone agrees it was because of poor bike handling skills.

 

[jmdirt]

Doubt he crashes when he’s going solo for 50km’s to the finish

His crash in VaC not withstanding?

*You don't have to remind me that there was a rider on his wheel, but he crashed on his own in that incident.

 

[Berniece]

His crash in VaC not withstanding?

*You don't have to remind me that there was a rider on his wheel, but he crashed on his own in that incident.

How many times did he crash during juniors when going for long solo?

 

[DogMan2026]

Seixas makes a huge jump in TDF odds to win. A week ago he and Remco had about the same odds (14 to 1). Now Seixas is 6 to 1. The window for Remco to win may be closing fast.

TDF Odds
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Pogacar 2 to 7
Vinegaard 5 to 1
Seixas 6 to 1
Evenepoel 14 to 1
Ayuso 22 to 1
Lipowitz 22 to 1
Del Toro 33 to 1
Onley 66 to 1
Pidcock 66 to 1

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Yeah. Seixas just one his first big 7 star race at age 19, and Remco has never won one at 26. Still need to see about his 3 week tho

 

[Red Rick]

I'll bet a few vital organs against Seixas on those odds.

 

[Ulle97]

I'll bet a few vital organs against Seixas on those odds.

Hardly a prophetic call when everyone knows Pogacar will win it anyway.

 

[Red Rick]

Hardly a prophetic call when everyone knows Pogacar will win it anyway.

Yes, but 16% of organs may come in handy one day

 

[Netserk]

the same odds also cover ew bets

 

[Jan the Man]

I'll bet a few vital organs against Seixas on those odds.

Agreed - crazy really. The smart money is on the former tour podium placer and gt winner.

I mean it could happen, as he has shown a great ceiling so far this year, but until it does happen, I am taking Remco or Lipo as more likely podium contenders.

 

[DogMan2026]

I'll bet a few vital organs against Seixas on those odds.

Who would u put your money on for second? Mine would be on Vinegaard (even with the Giro in his legs), but Seixas looks compelling for the podium.

 

[Extinction]

Any news on the lad?

 

[Berniece]

Any news on the lad?

Nope. Just training in Calpe. Getting ready for AGR and LBL. I don't think AGR will be a problem, otherwise LBL will be

 

[KoopaCycling]

Nope. Just training in Calpe. Getting ready for AGR and LBL. I don't think AGR will be a problem, otherwise LBL will be

Whilst he has not won much of importance, he only failed to perform at UAE. He was good everywhere else.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Nope. Just training in Calpe. Getting ready for AGR and LBL. I don't think AGR will be a problem, otherwise LBL will be

What does the competition look like in AGR?

Edit: NVM, saw your thread. Looks like Pidcock, Healy, Skjelmose. Pidcock seems like the biggest threat but Remco should win this. And I agree that if he does not, LBL is unlikely barring misfortune for Pogi and Seixas. I am very confident he will do well, though.

 

[AlpRaid]

What does the competition look like in AGR?

Edit: NVM, saw your thread. Looks like Pidcock, Healy, Skjelmose. Pidcock seems like the biggest threat but Remco should win this. And I agree that if he does not, LBL is unlikely barring misfortune for Pogi and Seixas. I am very confident he will do well, though.

I’m very high on Seixas. Huge for sure. And would love him to crush Pog.

But l’m not 100% sure he has surpassed Remco on a course like LBL yet. Maybe. But not yet, I think. His Basque rides were great but ultimately he couldn’t drop Lipowitz, so we will see.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

No I agree. If Remco looks good at AGR I expect him to be between Seixas and Pogi

 

[Oldman]

Doubt he crashes when he’s going solo for 50km’s to the finish

Not anymore, at least.