The revenge of Rasmussen ...

[Dazed and Confused]

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But anyway the credibility of Rassmusen is small, and this is a new proof.
In other treath there are people putting Rasmusen statement like if his opinion worth a lot

A wise man, Taxi, would probably focus on what Rasmussen writes in his book rather than what he says in a live interview.

 

[Benotti69]

But anyway the credibility of Rassmusen is small, and this is a new proof.
In other treath there are people putting Rasmusen statement like if his opinion worth a lot

This is why you are a troll.

 

[Benotti69]

Freire thinks he can sue Rasmussen, someone else thinks not

Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy

@friebos @Juan_Guti ok, if he sues Rasmussen, I come with a couple of riders for testimony, Oscar ! Hypocrite !

 

[Taxus4a]

Like Landis? Hamilton? Do you doubt that the Chicken have seen a lot of doping stuff, in all his pro years? If no, why would he make stuff up, that can get him in very serious trouble, when he can just tell what he knows?

Beside, there have been started a on investigation, there have been going on for quite some time now, based on the chickens information.

I read carefully Hamilton s book. It was amazing for me, not what he said about doping, that sometimes as well, but what he said about no doping.

And one thing that he said : today he believe there is a new era that could be called clean.

You give credibility to all said in those books, well, I gave it at Hamilton sbook, and later Lance confessed the same...but if you give it, why give credibility to all that Rassmusen say and not that statement from Hamilton?

I could read Rassmusen book and he gave me credibility, I started Hamilton book with some doubts about Hamilton, he wasnt a guy I liked, I consider he betrayed me. I went to Burgos, I saw Hamilton, I went to him, gave my hand and I told him: congrats for your gold, he shaked my hand, looked at my eyes and told me: thank you. Just a few time later he tested possitive for transfusión and years later a new positive... for me was a big lie as a cyclist...

But after to read him, I consider him in a very different way. He had his mistakes, but we can rely on his current word.

But today if Rassmusen said that if Froome is clean he is better than Merck or Coppi, it is an opinion more...from a man that say very easy that all the Tour team in 2007 was involving in doping, and another day say another thing, becouse he didnt think well what he was saying, or wich name were involving in his statement. most of the peloton was involved and rabo wanst an excepcion, that the reality, but not to say Freire was involved then, or even Flecha.

Landis yes, he is a more similar case to Rasmusen. You can belive him, but he is not so reliable, he could change a litte reality.

 

[mattghg]

Freire thinks he can sue Rasmussen, someone else thinks not

@friebos @Juan_Guti ok, if he sues Rasmussen, I come with a couple of riders for testimony, Oscar ! Hypocrite !

As people have been saying to Vayer on Twitter: why wait for a court case? If he has information, let's hear it.

 

[Benotti69]

As people have been saying to Vayer on Twitter: why wait for a court case? If he has information, let's hear it.

Absolutely.

 

[Samson777]

I read carefully Hamilton s book. It was amazing for me, not what he said about doping, that sometimes as well, but what he said about no doping.

And one thing that he said : today he believe there is a new era that could be called clean.

You give credibility to all said in those books, well, I gave it at Hamilton sbook, and later Lance confessed the same...but if you give it, why give credibility to all that Rassmusen say and not that statement from Hamilton?

I could read Rassmusen book and he gave me credibility, I started Hamilton book with some doubts about Hamilton, he wasnt a guy I liked, I consider he betrayed me. I went to Burgos, I saw Hamilton, I went to him, gave my hand and I told him: congrats for your gold, he shaked my hand, looked at my eyes and told me: thank you. Just a few time later he tested possitive for transfusión and years later a new positive... for me was a big lie as a cyclist...

But after to read him, I consider him in a very different way. He had his mistakes, but we can rely on his current word.

But today if Rassmusen said that if Froome is clean he is better than Merck or Coppi, it is an opinion more...from a man that say very easy that all the Tour team in 2007 was involving in doping, and another day say another thing, becouse he didnt think well what he was saying, or wich name were involving in his statement. most of the peloton was involved and rabo wanst an excepcion, that the reality, but not to say Freire was involved then, or even Flecha.

Landis yes, he is a more similar case to Rasmusen. You can belive him, but he is not so reliable, he could change a litte reality.

I think you forgot to answer why the chicken would make stuff up, if he already know stuff he can just tell.
Also you forgot to consider the investigation part, not a small thing in the end

I am not really sure what you are saying with your comparison, between Hamilton and Rasmussen. But I wonder how Hamilton could know that the everything is now cleaner. I mean when he tells about how things worked in his previous teams he knows, like when the chicken tells about Rabobank. But neither the chicken or Hamilton knows about the Froome generation, as far as anyone of us know, so you can not compare their opinion about that, with their stories about things that happened when they were around.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

As people have been saying to Vayer on Twitter: why wait for a court case? If he has information, let's hear it.

Originally Posted by Benotti69 View Post
Freire thinks he can sue Rasmussen, someone else thinks not

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antoine VAYER ‏@festinaboy

@friebos @Juan_Guti ok, if he sues Rasmussen, I come with a couple of riders for testimony, Oscar ! Hypocrite !

Gotta say, I would be interested in Freire filing here. Think it would get the ball rolling quickly.

Not sure thats what Rasmussen wants however....

 

[Taxus4a]

I think you forgot to answer why the chicken would make stuff up, if he already know stuff he can just tell.
Also you forgot to consider the investigation part, not a small thing in the end

I am not really sure what you are saying with your comparison, between Hamilton and Rasmussen. But I wonder how Hamilton could know that the everything is now cleaner. I mean when he tells about how things worked in his previous teams he knows, like when the chicken tells about Rabobank. But neither the chicken or Hamilton knows about the Froome generation, as far as anyone of us know, so you can not compare their opinion about that, with their stories about things that happened when they were around.

He has been inside cycling world and he has a lot of contacts inside, maybe you think like that, and obviously you cant know everything, but you can know a lot.
I know if now people in my town is gettting cocaine, or more than before, or less, and i am not inside that world, but in that past I see things.
He dont believe, and he has any reason to say that, but yes, for sure he only said that what they did would be impossible right now.

 

[mattghg]

Gotta say, I would be interested in Freire filing here. Think it would get the ball rolling quickly.

Not sure thats what Rasmussen whats however....

I doubt that Freire will sue, tbh.

 

[Benotti69]

I doubt that Freire will sue, tbh.

He will be thinking twice now after Antoine Vayers tweet

 

[Sciatic]

From today's CN article: "Rasmussen went on to reveal that he even approached his father Finn, on the advice of Dr Leinders, asking him to donate blood so that he could inject it."

Gives a whole new meaning to the saying about adult children being a "drain" on their parents!

BTW, don't you think that Rasmussen can go out on a limb naming other riders because the Danish ADA report is coming out in, what, Jan-Feb? That report will have all of Rasmussen's confessions, but supposedly they also went to confirm or substantiate all of his claims?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

From today's CN article: "Rasmussen went on to reveal that he even approached his father Finn, on the advice of Dr Leinders, asking him to donate blood so that he could inject it."

Gives a whole new meaning to the saying about adult children being a "drain" on their parents!

BTW, don't you think that Rasmussen can go out on a limb naming other riders because the Danish ADA report is coming out in, what, Jan-Feb? That report will have all of Rasmussen's confessions, but supposedly they also went to confirm or substantiate all of his claims?

well, we know the ADA revised Rasmussen's ban during the summer (?), so clearly it would indicate some of the information have been verified. However I doubt the ADA would tell Rasmussen about the specifics before the report hits the street, but you never know.

 

[jaylew]

Seems like he's backtracking on Freire and Flecha. From Velonation:

“There was organized doping, but it did not include all the riders," he told EFE. "Not once in my life did I see Oscar Freire doping. Flecha as well, he also didn’t know anything.”

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...er-saw-him-take-substances.aspx#ixzz2jiZhxcRx

 

[MarkvW]

Seems like he's backtracking on Freire and Flecha. From Velonation:

“There was organized doping, but it did not include all the riders," he told EFE. "Not once in my life did I see Oscar Freire doping. Flecha as well, he also didn’t know anything.”

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...er-saw-him-take-substances.aspx#ixzz2jiZhxcRx

So, Razzie, are you lying now, or were you lying then? We know you have a history of lying . . ..

 

[hrotha]

Seems like he's backtracking on Freire and Flecha. From Velonation:

“There was organized doping, but it did not include all the riders," he told EFE. "Not once in my life did I see Oscar Freire doping. Flecha as well, he also didn’t know anything.”

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...er-saw-him-take-substances.aspx#ixzz2jiZhxcRx

Many sources have reported that last bit as "I don't know anything about Flecha being involved", which is substantially different.

 

[peterst6906]

He will be thinking twice now after Antoine Vayers tweet

No need to think twice, it's clear he didn't even think once.

It was his e-peen at work and nothing more. Talk big, act little.

 

[robow7]

Gives a whole new meaning to the saying about adult children being a "drain" on their parents!

Excellent!

 

[IndianCyclist]

Seems like he's backtracking on Freire and Flecha. From Velonation:

“There was organized doping, but it did not include all the riders," he told EFE. "Not once in my life did I see Oscar Freire doping. Flecha as well, he also didn’t know anything.”

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...er-saw-him-take-substances.aspx#ixzz2jiZhxcRx

All the spanish riders would be with Fuentes since blood was most likely withdrawn during off season at home. The spanish would not have been comfortable with the dutch Leinders. No wonder Ras did not see anything of the spanish.

 

[Ferminal]

Flecha was already with Fuentes long before he joined Rabo. Not sure about Freire but agree (if he was doping) would have been independent enough as he was still strong 2010 (post-teamwide doping) and 2012 (Katusha).

 

[goggalor]

Just quoting the book. (p.311)

That's hilarious. "The truth will set you free" - lol, you can't say that **** outside the US. Rasmussen is even more fun than Flandis.

 

[Clausfarre]

Gives a whole new meaning to the saying about adult children being a "drain" on their parents!

Ha ha, brilliant! "I wanted him to grow up being a painter so he could draw my image. Not a cyclist drawing my blood."

 

[Taxus4a]

Rassmusen is an attentionwhor.., he has not credibility, and of course Freire didnt dope, nor did Horrillo.

 

[jens_attacks]

Rassmusen is an attentionwhor.., he has not credibility, and of course Freire didnt dope, nor did Horrillo.

 

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