The Women's Road Racing Thread 2016

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Given the clash with Elsy Jacobs and G Orlova, the TdeYorks line up is pretty good. Pretty much A squads from Ale-Cip and Liv-Plantur, and strong ones from Hitec (Wild, Becker) and Cylance (Scandolara, Schweizer). Wiggle have all their GB girls - a hard race for some of them - plus Hagiwara and Cordon. Lizzie rides for GB, motivated but in moderate form.

It's on ITV and Eurosport in the UK, live from 830 in a fun example of twin race scheduling. I could see Liv/Floortje showing well, it's quite nasty up there at the moment and it could be a tough day.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
I don't favour the imposition of women's teams on World Tour teams because the interest varies (just look at how the Cervélo Test Team, given a lot of promotion by Cervélo, were relegated to afterthoughts after the Garmin merger and cast aside after a year); I would ideally like women's cycling to have the chance to succeed under its own steam and develop organically rather than by being imposed on teams from above and turning into a facsimile of the men's racing. If it has a fair chance to sink or swim and it sinks, then so be it. But at the moment it is only rarely being given the chance to swim - and not often enough to make more than a few strokes either.

I think sometimes a propositive/imposing policy is required. The law of offer/demand doesn't always come up with the best results. Women's cycling is not very different from men's, it's just that the latter has more tradition, it's older and so on. I remember reading an interview of Elisa Longo Borghini where she claimed that she won 1600 euros for winning the Tour of Flanders. This is just unfair, and it has to be corrected, we cannot wait for the public to care about it. First of all it's a matter of respecting the dignity of a sport that requires a lot of sacrifices. I can accept that men get a bit more visibility because most of the cyclists are male but prize differences of 1:100 are not acceptable.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
I don't favour the imposition of women's teams on World Tour teams because the interest varies (just look at how the Cervélo Test Team, given a lot of promotion by Cervélo, were relegated to afterthoughts after the Garmin merger and cast aside after a year); I would ideally like women's cycling to have the chance to succeed under its own steam and develop organically rather than by being imposed on teams from above and turning into a facsimile of the men's racing. If it has a fair chance to sink or swim and it sinks, then so be it. But at the moment it is only rarely being given the chance to swim - and not often enough to make more than a few strokes either.

I think sometimes a propositive/imposing policy is required. The law of offer/demand doesn't always come up with the best results. Women's cycling is not very different from men's, it's just that the latter has more tradition, it's older and so on. I remember reading an interview of Elisa Longo Borghini where she claimed that she won 1600 euros for winning the Tour of Flanders. This is just unfair, and it has to be corrected, we cannot wait for the public to care about it. First of all it's a matter of respecting the dignity of a sport that requires a lot of sacrifices. I can accept that men get a bit more visibility because most of the cyclists are male but prize differences of 1:100 are not acceptable.
The imposition of fairer distribution of prize money is a separate issue to the imposition of teams to me, and is a more pressing concern. In fairness, some races are making positive steps in that respect, though it tends to be younger and less established races trying to use the improved prize pot as an incentive to attract a stronger field, and we have yet to see the impact on the race calendar with the WWT in its infancy so can't really comment on that just yet.

I am not against a mandatory level of prize money to be available for WWT races, especially those races where they are coterminous with the men's races (while many races are run on a shoestring budget and mandatory increases in prize money may jeopardise their existence, this is not the case for the majority of the WWT events, many of which are run either by or in conjunction with, major organisers like ASO, RCS and Flanders Classics, who cannot offer that excuse for the paltry prizes on offer). At this point I don't expect parity of prize money to be a realistic short-term goal, I'm afraid, because of the gulf in depth and coverage, but the more money that can be made available the better, especially in respect of placements, intermediate primes etc. to encourage a wider distribution of the prize money, much of which is bogarted by the handful of super-teams at present.

The issue I have with the sometimes-mooted imposition of women's teams is two-fold, really. If you look at the ignominious way the Cervélo Test Team, a great step forward for the women in terms of exposure and support from a top level men's team (along with HTC-High Road, in fairness, whose women's team were several times more interesting than their men), was relegated to afterthought status following the Garmin merger, saw results suffer and was disbanded a year later, you can see immediately how the impact of management caring about the women's team affects them. If the WWT was comprised of solely women's equivalents of the men's teams, then yes it may give greater ease of identity for the audience when the races are broadcast, but you'd have the problem that while some teams have clear interest in the women's péloton, those teams are already there for the most part; the teams that don't have an interest would be an afterthought and potentially lead to riders stagnating in such an environment, plus the geographical split of the women's péloton is different to that of the men; also, I wouldn't want to cast aside long-standing women's teams and sponsors. The pairing of teams who have separate sponsors (like Giant-Alpecin and Liv-Plantur, or a few years ago Farnese Vini-Selle Italia and MCipollini-Giambenina) may perhaps be a strong compromise point, but I don't think that we're at the point where an imposition of a women's team on ALL men's WT teams is viable.
 
20km remaining, 55" for a lead trio. Doris Schweizer (Cylance) has been away solo all day, but has now been joined by a two-woman counter-attack of Leah Kirchmann (Liv) and (of course) Lizzie Armitstead (GB national, but obviously wearing the rainbows). Rooting for Leah, she's got a good sprint and is getting increasingly durable as her showing at the end of Strade Bianche showed. However, let's face it, Lizzie's season seems to be comprised almost entirely out of victories and sickness-related DNFs, and the course is well within her remit as well as being in front of her home crowd, so as long as she's healthy enough to compete she's healthy enough to win, and I can't see her not winning from that group, as long as they stay away. The last 20km are on much wider and straighter roads than the twisty, technical route they've been on so far, and against a headwind. Schweizer will be keen to podium, since Cylance have had a bit of a disappointing season thus far, so she will be a willing worker even if she'll come 3rd in a sprint against Lizzie and Kirchmann ten times out of ten, however she'll also be by far the most spent of the three having spent most of the race alone. However, as we head towards 10km to go the time gap is tumbling fast!

Meanwhile, Ann-Sophie Duyck has won the ITT in Graciá-Orlová ahead of Shara Gillow and Olga Z. Pavlukhina comfortably defended her large lead but some of the less adept chrono riders lost out. The GC with one flat semitappe and a hilly circuit race remaining:
1 Olena Pavlukhina (BTC City-Ljubljana) AZE
2 Shara Gillow (Australia) AUS +1'56
3 Alena Amialiusik (Canyon-SRAM) BLR +1'59
4 Olga Zabelinskaya (BePink-La Classica) RUS +2'10
5 Tatiana Antoshina (Astana) RUS +2'18
6 Ann-Sophie Duyck (Belgium) BEL +2'30
7 Ane Santesteban González (Alé-Cipollini) ESP +2'46
8 Elena Cecchini (Canyon-SRAM) ITA +2'48
9 Martyna Klekot (TKK Pacific Toruń-Nestlé Fitness) POL +2'57
10 Martina Ritter (BTC City-Ljubljana) AUT +2'59
 
Leading trio caught at 2km to go. Since both Kirchmann and Armitstead can sprint, if they saved some energy late on they may still have options, but given they were caught so close to the line I'd anticipate they may struggle to get enough rest to have anything left for the sprint... and indeed this is the case, Kirsten Wild takes the bunch kick for Hitec!

1 Kirsten Wild (Team Hitec Products-UCK) NED 3'22'26
2 Lucy Garner (Wiggle-High5) GBR +st
3 Floortje Mackaij (Liv-Plantur) NED +st
4 Alice Barnes (Great Britain) GBR +st
5 Marta Bastianelli (Alé-Cipollini) ITA +st
6 Anna Trevisi (Alé-Cipollini) ITA +st
7 Jennifer George (Drops) GBR +st
8 Nikki Juniper (Team Ford Ecoboost) GBR +st
9 Nicole Moerig (Podium Ambition p/b Club La Santa) AUS +st
10 Evie Richards (Great Britain) GBR +st

Good result for the young Britons Barnes and Richards, particularly the former who takes a notable scalp in the sprint in Bastianelli although there's a suggestion that Alé rather got it wrong with Marta being a bit boxed in by her own leadout. It's a bit of a strange sprint result marked by the fact that two of the strongest finishers in the field had been in the escape that got caught, because they (understandably) felt their chance better from a group without Kirsten Wild in it than from a group with Kirsten Wild in it.
 
More oddness at the GP Elsy Jacobs where one of the strongest sprinters in the field, Giorgia Bronzini, is tête de la course in a two-woman break with Carmen Small, the latter being well-placed in the GC after a good prologue. Orica are really struggling to control the péloton, there's a counter-attack has got away consisting of Kasia Niewiadoma, Elise Delzenne (who's now with Lotto, has had a quiet season so far) and Elisa Longo Borghini, who obviously is anchoring the group and not taking turns with Bronzini up the road.
 
It looks like the stage in the GP Elsy Jacobs would have been a great one to watch, because we have, after the counter-attack was brought back, a second counter-attack set off with some SERIOUS firepower - Ashleigh Moolman-Pasio initiated the move and was followed by Marianne Vos and Elisa Longo Borghini, again anchoring the move until they caught the initial break. ELB then fired off to try to take it home from there, and the chase behind shredded the bunch to pieces. However, the Italian was caught just 2km from the line by a group numbering 20 thanks mainly to the collective firepower of Garfoot (riding for Annemiek), a couple of Rabo and Boels riders who didn't want to let Wiggle get a good gap, and Cervélo-Bigla, whose own attempt at victory from the break had been foiled with Small's and Moolman's breaks being reined in, but that meant Lotta Lepistö had got a free ride in the bunch and was now about the only pure sprinter left in the group, especially as some of the strongest other sprinters - Vos, Bronzini - had spent a lot of their matches in the break moves. Carmen did crash on the run-in, but Cervélo did get something out of their work since Lotta took the win, opening up enough of a gap to be given a second ahead of young Dane Amalie Dideriksen, and Eugenia Bujak (weird looking sprint with almost all the real sprinters burnt off, but the likes of Vos and Johansson not contesting it; they may have been held up by the crash in fairness, not having had the chance to see the finale). Another 20 or so riders came splintered at gaps ranging from 20" to a minute, while more than 15 riders climbed off today, including some useful names - most notably both Verhoevens (Pauline is very young but Aurore is a decent rider), Lieselot Decroix and Jip van den Bos. Lepistö is the new race leader on time bonuses, but tomorrow's stage is hilly so she'll have to go some to defend it.
 
In Graciá-Orlová? No, there's a mix of trade teams and national teams. For example, Canyon-SRAM aren't at Yorkshire or Luxembourg, so they've got a full team in the Czech Republic, whereas Hitec Products are only doing Yorkshire, but they don't have enough healthy riders and/or budget to do both of the other races, so some of their riders are in the Norwegian national team at the GP Elsy Jacobs, while Julie Leth has gone to the Czech Republic to race for the Danish national team; Boels-Dolmans have their biggest names in the GP Elsy Jacobs but Lizzie Armitstead kind of felt obliged to do Yorkshire since it starts in her hometown, but with some riders taking a break, some on training camp and the six in Luxembourg, they couldn't send a full support team with her so she's raced today for a British national squad. Likewise Shara Gillow racing in Garciá-Orlová for Australia, while the main part of the Rabo team is in Luxembourg.

Especially with this being an Olympic year, plenty of national federations like to use these kind of points in the calendar where there's multiple races going on at a time to give young riders a chance; all you need is a good name or two from the country who isn't needed elsewhere on the day, back them up with some prospects or riders known from the national calendar but who don't often do international races to get experience; many of the pro teams like it because it keeps some of their names on the fringe of the main squad happy and also allows riders a bit more flexibility in picking their calendars.

At Graciá-Orlová there's an Aussie (led by Shara Gillow of Rabobank), Belgian (led by Ann-Sophie Duyck of Topsport Vlaanderen), German (nominal leader is probably Lisa Klein of Cervélo but it's a very young team), Danish (nominal leader is probably Julie Leth of Hitec), Spanish (led by Anna Sanchis of Wiggle-High 5), Polish (led by mountain biker Maja Włoszczowska), Belarusian, Austrian and Slovak national team, but also the Canyon-SRAM, Astana, BePink, Alé-Cipollini, Servetto-Footon (though without Neff), Poitou-Charentes/Futuroscope and Michela Fanini pro teams along with some Polish and German domestic squads.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
In Belgium, Sporza offered RvV in two streams, women online, men on TV. And while some people may have complained because they wanted to watch the men, that position was by no means universal (for one thing, the stream of the women's race kept having trouble because of bandwidth issues caused by greater demand than expected - although I do accept that while many had the choice of either race, others without the ability to watch TV via the internet at the time of the race or in countries where only one race was being broadcast and they didn't cut to the men's race until after the women had finished may have had different positions) and besides, there are always some people who will be annoyed that the coverage they want is being superseded by something they perceive as less important. I mean, there are multiple years we've seen people complaining about Eurosport's priorities on the forum because they wouldn't cut to the freaking Tour of Qatar until a delayed skiing World Championship race was over.

As I've said many times, the problem is chicken-and-egg. There's very little money in women's cycling, therefore there are few real specialists and the sport is less developed. As a result if it is broadcast, people don't know the names, and don't really care about the action. You can see the key moves being made, but if you don't know who's who, you don't know why a given move is important and also, more importantly, you've got little to talk about until the key moves are made, whereas because men's cycling has such a large cast, we can blather about the very artificial BOTD action (I mean seriously, how many stages have we seen where the broadcast starts with three little-heralded domestiques a few minutes up the road, the bunch carefully plans out where to catch them, they're brought back and we have a sprint? Hundreds. Yet we don't say "men's cycling is boring", we say "flat stages at the Tour de France are boring" or "the Tour Down Under is boring" or whatever race has drawn ire that time. You say that the small cast makes it dull (notwithstanding that the smaller teams that results means some interesting racing, but the problem is the number of riders at the top is comparatively small), but a lot of that is that relatively few women can afford to make a living from the sport, and those are the ones that can spend the most time training and working for their cycling so inevitably those are the ones that are the most successful.

The argument goes that they shouldn't get funding because there's no interest, but in most places there hasn't been the opportunity given to them to garner that interest. In most places we're saying "nobody cares about women's cycling", but how do we know? Because it's not being broadcast? But if you don't have the chance to watch it, how can you discover an interest in it? I didn't wake up one day and think "I'm going to devour every bit of information about cycling I can". I became interested because I saw a race that passed where I was living at the time, watched the end of it on the TV to try and make sense of what I saw, and thought "this looks interesting, I'll have to check more of this out". And then, because men's cycling is on TV plenty, I did so, learned the characters of the péloton, tactics, and so on. If you watch a women's race and you find it entertaining, you'd have to be stupendously dedicated to learn that way, because of how infrequent the coverage is, and the chances to watch races live and get invested in them as they happen is even rarer. Do I blame people who say "yea, I'll watch the women at the Worlds or the Olympics, but I'm not interested enough to make the effort to follow it year-round"? Hell no. I don't even have a problem with those who say "because of that, I don't even really care about their race at the Worlds or Olympics, since I'm not invested enough". Most cycling fans aren't the super-fans who'll hunt around for streams or highlights of the GP des Marbriers or the Vuelta a Asturias either. But to go the Pete Kennaugh "nobody should care about you because nobody cares about you" route is just not productive (and leads to posts like this in the thread that was specifically designed to prevent discussions like this breaking out periodically across the board). Look at the crowds generated by the Women's Tour in the UK - sure, lots of casual fans who couldn't name you more than about five riders - mostly Britons, mostly because of the track team - but there are also lots of those at the men's races too.

To address the other suggestions made, the idea of the women riding ahead of the men works on some levels but not on others. At races like Gent-Wevelgem, Strade Bianche, de Ronde and Flèche it's fine, as the women's race is shorter, so starting both at the same time does not cause any problem in overlap. Multi-class racing à la Le Mans is also mooted above, but (imo sensibly) rejected due to the issue of different paces of pélotons - in cyclocross at the lower level this is exactly what does happen and it isn't problematic as everybody is generally either on their own or in a small group, but in road racing because of the high quantity of pack racing it wouldn't really be feasible (plus UCI restrictions on race lengths vary too of course). Also you'd have to make a very clear protocol - in circuit racing at present in both men's and women's cycling, lapped traffic is pulled off the course to allow the leaders through; in XC skiing the onus is on the athlete being lapped to get out of the way of those lapping them, in sportscar racing the onus is on the faster car to make their way safely through. Of course at a lot of races the point-to-point multi-start option is not a possibility - take circuit-based races. That said, I think races like the Canadian one-dayers could be good spots for a men's and women's race on the same day or alternating, much like with Plouay or the Philadelphia International - there's local interest, the course would be perfectly good for racing (and Worlds prep of course) and because the crowd would already be out there, they can maximise the audience.

I don't favour the imposition of women's teams on World Tour teams because the interest varies (just look at how the Cervélo Test Team, given a lot of promotion by Cervélo, were relegated to afterthoughts after the Garmin merger and cast aside after a year); I would ideally like women's cycling to have the chance to succeed under its own steam and develop organically rather than by being imposed on teams from above and turning into a facsimile of the men's racing. If it has a fair chance to sink or swim and it sinks, then so be it. But at the moment it is only rarely being given the chance to swim - and not often enough to make more than a few strokes either.
Here in the USA networks use the 'boring' tag to justify not showing cycling on TV. Its exactly as you said, chicken-egg. They televise endless hours of golf, and even NASCAR qualifying...one car on the track at a time...if that isn't the definition of boring, I don't know what is.

EDIT: Very often, woman's races are actually better to watch than the men's. I miss the woman's races that we used to have here in Idaho!
 
Chaos emerging on the final day of GP Elsy Jacobs, Cervélo can't control this in bad weather with Lepistö leading. Kasia Niewiadoma is solo off the front, having gone early on the hilliest part of the course, and a chasing quartet of Claudia Lichtenberg, Katrin Garfoot, Elisa Longo Borghini and Anna van der Breggen (with the latter obviously refusing to cooperate with Niewiadoma up the road) now being chased by Christine Majerus and Flavia Oliveira to make a group of six (they're about to make contact). No clue where the bunch is relative to the seven. If she holds on, Niewiadoma needs 11" at the finishing line to guarantee the GC due to deficits from the prologue relative to some of those in the group. Obviously if they do pull the Pole back VDB is almost certain to attack since she'll have done no work and has no sprint.

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Kasia has been sent the wrong way at a turn and this has cost her some vital seconds - her lead is now down to 37". Van der Breggen trying to spoil the chase... seems like she did a good job, a lack of cohesion, and Niewiadoma solos away to take the victory and with it the GC!!! Majerus won the sprint for 2nd (not unexpectedly from that group, she's by far the best sprinter in it) ahead of Garfoot, ELB and Anna VDB (which shows you she's been working on her sprint, she has now passed Lichtenberg in their eternal duel over worst sprinters out of the elites).
 
In Graciá-Orlová Marta Tagliaferro won the final stage over an undulating, hilly circuit with a couple of short steep rises, taking a second out of local rider Jarmila Machacová, with Ragusa, Hänselmann and Cecchini +3", Zabelinskaya, Vekemans and Gillow +5" and the group +10". Pavlukhina therefore comfortably retained her GC lead.

The overall therefore looks like this:
1 Olena Pavlukhina (BTC City Ljubljana) AZE 10'27'45
2 Shara Gillow (Australia National Team) AUS +1'45
3 Alena Amialiusik (Canyon-SRAM) BLR +1'50
4 Olga Zabelinskaya (BePink-La Classica) RUS +2'03
5 Tatiana Antoshina (Astana) RUS +2'18
6 Marie Schousbø Vilmann (Denmark National Team) DEN +2'18"
7 Anisha Vekemans (Belgium National Team) BEL +2'21"
8 Ann-Sophie Duyck (Belgium National Team) BEL +2'30"
9 Ane Santesteban González (Alé-Cipollini) ESP +2'40"
10 Elena Cecchini (Canyon-SRAM) ITA +2'41

The overall GC at the GP Elsy Jacobs looks like this:
1 Katarzyna Niewiadoma (Rabo-Liv) POL 5'34'39
2 Katrin Garfoot (Orica-AIS) AUS +35"
3 Anna van der Breggen (Rabo-Liv) NED +38"
4 Ashleigh Moolman-Pasio (Cervélo-Bigla) RSA +39"
5 Elisa Longo Borghini (Wiggle-High5) ITA +41"
6 Claudia Lichtenberg (Lotto-Soudal Ladies) GER +49"
7 Christine Majerus (Boels-Dolmans) LUX +1'03"
8 Lotta Lepistö (Cervélo-Bigla) FIN +2'35"
9 Annemiek van Vleuten (Orica-AIS) NED +2'36"
10 Marianne Vos (Rabo-Liv) NED +2'40"
 
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Kasia rocks. :cool:


So, if you’ve been waiting to see 90 women riding over a six lane suspension bridge, wait no longer. The Tour of Chongming Island is upon us.

http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=MjY5ODA=

What used to be a short stage race followed by a World Cup day is now a three day WWT stage race, albeit still one for sprinters. Despite this status, mixed feelings abound. On one level it’s good to have a race in a non-traditional location, and this is established now. On the other hand, it’s quite a dull outing as a rule and travel, jet lag, pollution and questionable meat play on riders’ minds.

This year sees a pretty weak line-up. Boels, Rabo, Canyon and Orica have declined to attend and Liv-Plantur’s Leah Kirchmann is the top ranked rider in the field (20 on PCS) and possibly the quickest finisher too. Liv have a decent team (Riejanne Markus is young but handily fast), Ale-Cip likewise (Tagliaferro/Cucinotta); Cervelo-Bigla have Lepisto but as of now just four riders.

Wiggle have a development team led by Chloe Hosking (who has a good record at Chongming) and Lucy Garner. Amy Roberts and Dani King provide horsepower; flyweight climbers Mayuko Hagiwara and Anna Christian may need to be weighted down if it gets windy.

Other riders who could feature include Roxane Fournier (Poitou-Charentes etc), Natalie van Gogh (Parkhotel) and Simona Frapporti (Hitec, who have left Wild at home). Probably also others on teams I’m unfamiliar with.

I’ll leave you with Jip van den Bos reminding us that the Dutch are not always good at doing multicultural.

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Edit: apparently the race will be steamed live here: http://www.zoptv.com/live/cctv-5

Further edit: not sure if Bigla are racing at all now.
 
The BTC team looks pretty useful as well with Plichta, Pavlukhina and Bujak, and a couple of the riders on the Russian national team could do well in this kind of field (Boyarskaya and Iakovenko most likely imo, but no idea what kind of form the riders from their national scene are in). Some riders like Brändli and Zabelinskaya I guess are there for name value more than anything else. The problem is Chongming Island doesn't really give a particularly inspiring parcours because it doesn't really offer that, and with the World Tour now meaning that it's no longer got that guaranteed call-in of the World Cup one-dayer it's hurt the field because the travel is a bit much for a lot of the smaller teams and the bigger teams don't really have anything to worry about from a World Tour points perspective at this point; it essentially produces an opportunity for some of the second tier teams to try and grab some WT points on the cheap, and for those of the larger teams to travel to give some of their second-stringers a chance to shine.

Also, much as I like Jip and want to see her do well... shall we be polite and call that "ill-judged"? Really not smart.
 
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Anyway, on the road at Chongming....

Ting Huang (Chinese Taipei) took stage 1 yesterday, after a chaotic sprint. Kirchmann 2nd and Chloe Hosking 3rd.

Today's second has just finished. Hosking won from Kirchmann and van den Bos was third (good sprint to be fair).

I think that will probably see Chloe take the lead on bonification seconds, but not sure what happened at the intermediates... Kirchmann will be close behind anyway.
 
Thanks for the update on today as hadn't seen - yesterday's stage coverage is online here. It's quite nice to see full length coverage of the stages, but also of course not the most inspiring race to have that coverage given the difficulty in finding significant obstacles for the route. Very strange to see Zabelinskaya and Trevisi make up the break. The latter is quite easy to spot at least - not only is she wearing the unmistakable Alé-Cipollini kit but she also must have a contender for the longest hair in the péloton. And Zabelinskaya did initiate the winning move in the Olympic Road Race, which wasn't ideally suited to her either. It could have done with some of the roads being exposed to add a bit more suspense, instead it rather ended up resembling a typical flat men's race with a mixed bunch, something like an early stage in the Tour de Pologne, with the break being left to hang out there until they were close enough to the finish to be happy to take them back, a few short-lived attempts to get away from the trains solo late on before they organized for the sprint.

I say "organized" in the loosest sense of the word, as you say it was not the most organized sprint I've ever seen. Good for Huang to take it, definitely her biggest result, I looked her up afterward as I know next to nothing about her, seems she has some good results in Asian races, but even in the weaker field than usual in Chongming these are still some decent sized scalps she's taken here.

The GC after stage 2 is now confirmed as:

1 Chloe Hosking (Wiggle-High5) AUS 6'04'52
2 Leah Kirchmann (Liv-Plantur) CAN +4"
3 Ting-Ying Huang (Chinese Taipei) TPE +9"
4 Annalisa Cucinotta (Alé-Cipollini) ITA +11"
5 Jip van den Bos (Parkhotel Valkenburg Continental) NED +15"
6 Roxane Fournier (Poitou Charentes-Futuroscope '86) FRA +16"
7 Emilie Møberg (Hitec Products) NOR +16"
8 Mia Radotić (BTC-City Ljubljana) CRO +16"
 
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Very good season start for Leah Kirchmann, really a big recruit for Team Liv-Plantur
And good places too in first stage for our french girls, Roxane Fournier and Pascale Jeuland ;)
It's really a pity that Women Cycling has so few support in France
 
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Roxane F always seems capable of a result, even though she does a fair bit of track and never has the strongest of teams.

Women's cycling is not terribly popular anywhere to be fair... I would say GB is doing quite well with the Women's Tour on tv and also decent coverage of the domestic calendar, but a lot of it is driven by the Olympics (and Lizzie Armitstead being WC). Plenty of well-documented problems too of course!

Tomorrow in Chongming is unlikely to see big gaps, and assuming no crashes/mechanicals etc it looks like Hosking v Kirchmann. Perhaps in my ignorance I am doing a disservice to Huang, but I can't really see anyone else challenging. 11 seconds for Cucinotta & Ale-Cip is probably too much.
 
Hmmm, I'd say that GB does a good job of getting the fans invested, but that's more to do with the excellent promotion work done by the Aviva Women's Tour. There's still much more in terms of development of a women's cycling infrastructure in the Benelux, the US and northern Italy, but GB is certainly improving its reach for that, and also Scandinavia.

Really, it seems that the areas of each place that have the most women's cycling infrastructure are the same as those that have the most men's cycling infrastructure in terms of youth and development teams as well. The Netherlands more so than Belgium admittedly, but in France, the main races and teams are based out of Brétagne, Poitou-Charentes and then up near the Belgian border; in Italy, it's Lombardy and Veneto, in Spain, it's País Vasco, in Germany, it's Thüringen. There's nowhere where women's cycling is "big" per se, but there are places where it's closer in popularity to men's cycling than it is in others. The acid test of progress being made in many places will be what happens to some of the newer races next year, outside the Olympic cycle. I think unless there's a big scandal or a complete catastrophe in Rio, the British races will obviously want to continue, they've attracted good fields and excellent audiences. Especially if this year, with a more challenging parcours, is a success.

Looking at the Vuelta a Madrid today it made me wonder if that might be something that ought to be done to make La Course and the Madrid Challenge a bit more interesting, have a second day somewhere near the capital, Critérium International style. Especially as the Vuelta has shied away from the old format of using the Sierra de Guadarrama on the penultimate day every year, this year it's Aitana for example, 2013 it was Angliru, 2011 it was Vitória-Gasteiz - if the women have a hilly circuit race and semitappe ITT on the Saturday somewhere near Madrid, say San Lorenzo de El Escorial, Ávila, Aránjuez or San Rafaél - maybe morning semitappe (ideally shown online) before Vuelta coverage hits TV, then time the TT so the important riders go after the stage has finished, and then the flat circuit race in Madrid on the Sunday; even if they could only film the Sunday flat stage, there'd be some time gaps so it could be a bit more interesting than the straight sprint; likewise La Course, since Le Tour never finishes stage 20 near Paris anymore, they could have a hilly race somewhere around Île-de-France on the Saturday morning then the La Course flat race. It's more likely in France than Spain as women's cycling has very little traction in Spain outside of País Vasco and Comunidad Valenciana, mind.

I mean, as I've said before, I'd rather ASO have used that money towards helping the Route de France out, but beggars can't be choosers I guess.