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Big GMaC said:
Ok so the main barrier to Hoy becoming a filed sprinter (aside from age) is the fact he is a near 14 stone / 200lb / 93kg beast would wouldn't have the full endurance to get to the finish over the slightest of hills. So why is someone like Jason Kenny who is both young and light for a track sprinter looking more a doing a theo bos and moving to road? There would certainly be more money in it...

Look at what Benny Kersten has been doing lately. He is another world class track sprinter (kilo specialist) who is making the transition to road. Riding for Fly V at the moment, I would suggest that he is not having as much success as Bos
 
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If Cav is beating him, Bos will just throw him into the railing...
 
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I don't know if the lead out train has much to do with it. Cavendish has won without out it before, he's out of shape. As for Bos, if he's starting to get to the end of races in ok shape he's a real threat even if not for the win leading out hushovd or haussler could work well, he's a pretty big guy.

I'd rate Hoy over Bos on the track, but you can hardly say someone with 5 golds at world championship level needs to learn something.
 
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if bos gets a train he could be very dangerous. Personally I think a lot of cav's victories come down to his train, they deliver him on a platter, thus making him unbeatable. Remove that aspect, and he is still the best, but certainly not "unbeatable". I think he'd still win the most, but he'd lose regular too.
 
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
if bos gets a train he could be very dangerous. Personally I think a lot of cav's victories come down to his train, they deliver him on a platter, thus making him unbeatable. Remove that aspect, and he is still the best, but certainly not "unbeatable". I think he'd still win the most, but he'd lose regular too.

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Bos defeating Cavendish in Almería was mostly because of a tactical issue. The Dutch sprinted earlier than the Brit, and Cav's poor condition didn't allow him to get past Bos...
About trains: it is 80% of Cavendish's victories. And so could be said about most sprinters: they practically do nothing without help from his companions. To reach a top speed of 70 kmh, you should be first at least at 60 kmh... and you can only get that speed with the help of a train...
 
I wonder what's going to happen when Bos ends up on the same roadway as Daryl Impey? When Impey was flat on his back in his hospital bed for weeks on end he called Bos a "chophead", and said he'd definitely confront him face to face when the time happened. Curious when that will be. I still don't know if Impey has 100% healed.
 
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I wonder what's going to happen when Bos ends up on the same roadway as Daryl Impey? When Impey was flat on his back in his hospital bed for weeks on end he called Bos a "chophead", and said he'd definitely confront him face to face when the time happened. Curious when that will be. I still don't know if Impey has 100% healed.
It happened today. They're both riding the Vuelta a Murcia.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
I wonder what's going to happen when Bos ends up on the same roadway as Daryl Impey? When Impey was flat on his back in his hospital bed for weeks on end he called Bos a "chophead", and said he'd definitely confront him face to face when the time happened. Curious when that will be. I still don't know if Impey has 100% healed.

Bos contacted Impey after he recovered and according to him they have spoken several times and the air was cleared months ago. So, no issues there. It's a peloton, not a forum. ;)
 
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Bos contacted Impey after he recovered and according to him they have spoken several times and the air was cleared months ago. So, no issues there. It's a peloton, not a forum. ;)

DUnno.. RS did enough work today to make sure bos didnt win.. :D
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Dark horse for the green jersey: Theo Bos!!!!:p
absolutely no chance for the green jersey, for three years. He needs to learn how to climb, then get the team leadership of some team.

He will be back to Rabo.

If he gets a train like Posthuma, Boom, Vermeltfort, Van Poppel, he will win about 30 stages a year, and about 3 Tour de France stages. Only guy who could beat Cav when they are at 100% as of now.
 
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absolutely no chance for the green jersey, for three years. He needs to learn how to climb, then get the team leadership of some team.

He will be back to Rabo.

If he gets a train like Posthuma, Boom, Vermeltfort, Van Poppel, he will win about 30 stages a year, and about 3 Tour de France stages. Only guy who could beat Cav when they are at 100% as of now.

Sky? good train no sprinter.
 
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karlboss said:
Sky? good train no sprinter.
Sky, big budget to buy out Bos of a contract. Good pick. But one flaw.

Boason can win the green. He will never be a pure field sprinter, but I think he can win green. He is already faster than Hushovd. And I doubt he even trains his kick.
 
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Sky, big budget to buy out Bos of a contract. Good pick. But one flaw.

Boason can win the green. He will never be a pure field sprinter, but I think he can win green. He is already faster than Hushovd. And I doubt he even trains his kick.

I thought about the compromises. Bos could go to Sky and ride for wins, and at the tour lead out Boason.
 
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karlboss said:
I thought about the compromises. Bos could go to Sky and ride for wins, and at the tour lead out Boason.

Boason could sweep his wheel.

Bos told to sprint for the win, but to go as early as possible, if that is 250 or 300 metres.

Dont get swamped.

With Geraint Thomas, Hendo, Stannard, Hayman, they have a good chance of not getting swamped in the last km.

But usually it is not the guys like Hayman and Thomas that make a difference in the final 4km, it is a guy like Hincapie, who make a real difference, and can put your man out the front with clear road and sprinting for the win. I wonder what difference that HTC will have, sans Hincapie.
 
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roulston, goss, howard? remains to be seen, but i don't think they are lacking, use two guys for that distance instead of one, in physical effect it shouldn't matter. The big difference I think is the name hincapie.

EDIT: the sky plan is pretty much what i had in mind.
 
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karlboss said:
roulston, goss, howard? remains to be seen, but i don't think they are lacking, use two guys for that distance instead of one, in physical effect it shouldn't matter. The big difference I think is the name hincapie.

EDIT: the sky plan is pretty much what i had in mind.
disagree. The teams only have 8 support riders. If Rogers and Martin are riding GC, if Monfort supports them, if they have Grabsch or Eisel trying to pull back a break, you only have limited resources for a leadout. So it is not as simple to say "allocate two where Hincapie was". And they all have to get to the point where Hincapie was, before they even have to drive the train.

Hincapie was vastly overrated. But for Cavendish, he was invaluable.