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manolo57

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Madiot didn't say that for Thibaut :confused:

The quote : "L’an prochain, après le Giro il y aura une semaine de récupération en plus puisque le départ du Tour a été décalé. Je pense qu’un jour Thibaut retournera au Giro avant de faire le Tour. C’est le futur à moyen terme de l’équipe."

"I think one day Thibaut will go back to the Giro before going to the Tour"
 
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Finally! Marc Madiot speaks on the FDJ website, his summary of '17 and plan for '18.

David Gaudu will not ride a GT...unless. It opens the door, Marc knows it, injuries in '12 and Thibaut gets the call. One week races and spring races.

Big news: Tibopino will do Giro-Tour with the extra week in between, not what I like best, but the logic is to focus next on the RRWC.

If FDJ plays the cards well, really go for the Giro, I love Thinaut's chances with the course that we seem to see in the Giro thread. Podium at least. But even if TP is rested, what TdF line up can make a GC bid serious AND give Demare a shot at green?
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Yes, it's a smart move, it's the best thing for both Pinot and Demare and this year the sponsors got tons of exposure because of Demare, so it's not a problem.
 
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Thibaut retournera au Giro avant de faire le Tour. Quote.
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Yes but not necessarily next year. Middle term future, not short term.

I think he'll go back in 2019.

For Gaudu, this is weird. When he signed his contract Madiot said that Vuelta 2018 was planned, and even 2 weeks ago, Fred Guesdon, said to veloclub that he will ride the Vuelta, and now Madiot says otherwise. :confused:

Little news to for the fans, Benjamin Thomas will ride the Vuelta because he asked for it.
 
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yaco

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Sponsors do rule the roost - Pinot should ride the 2018 Giro for two reasons - One he may have trouble with the 2018 TDF route, and second this route suits Demare with less pure sprinting stages - In saying that, Pinot should go back for the 2019 TDF, to allow Gaudu to ride a shadow GC at the 2019 Giro - Don't want Gaudu at the TDF until he is four or 5 years into his career - Reason for Gaudu not riding a GT in 2018 is his age - He just turned 21.
 
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I'm sorry guys but Pinot will not ride the next Giro (100% sure) but it's possible that in 2019 or 2020 he will ride it.
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I'm sorry rbl85, I read you sometime on other forum and I know that you doesn't know anything more than us. Pinot is saying everything and anything since July, that he wants to do Giro-Vuelta, that he wants to wait for the route of both Giro and Tour to decide and now during the effervescence of the TDF route unveiling, he's saying that he is sure to ride the TDF next year.

Let him cool down, see the different route (even if the Giro one is a disgrace, it's still best suited to him than the TDF one and it's stressful 10 first days) and make is decision.

I think he's going to do the Tour next year, but nothing is 100% sure.
 
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rbl85

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Chrispol said:
rbl85 said:
I'm sorry guys but Pinot will not ride the next Giro (100% sure) but it's possible that in 2019 or 2020 he will ride it.
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I'm sorry rbl85, I read you sometime on other forum and I know that you doesn't know anything more than us. Pinot is saying everything and anything since July, that he wants to do Giro-Vuelta, that he wants to wait for the route of both Giro and Tour to decide and now during the effervescence of the TDF route unveiling, he's saying that he is sure to ride the TDF next year.

Let him cool down, see the different route (even if the Giro one is a disgrace, it's still best suited to him than the TDF one and it's stressful 10 first days) and make is decision.

I think he's going to do the Tour next year, but nothing is 100% sure.
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You read me ? :redface:

I'm not saying that i know more things than you but I'm just saying that for me there is no chance to see Pinot ride the Giro next year
 
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rbl85 said:
Chrispol said:
rbl85 said:
I'm sorry guys but Pinot will not ride the next Giro (100% sure) but it's possible that in 2019 or 2020 he will ride it.
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I'm sorry rbl85, I read you sometime on other forum and I know that you doesn't know anything more than us. Pinot is saying everything and anything since July, that he wants to do Giro-Vuelta, that he wants to wait for the route of both Giro and Tour to decide and now during the effervescence of the TDF route unveiling, he's saying that he is sure to ride the TDF next year.

Let him cool down, see the different route (even if the Giro one is a disgrace, it's still best suited to him than the TDF one and it's stressful 10 first days) and make is decision.

I think he's going to do the Tour next year, but nothing is 100% sure.
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You read me ? :redface:

I'm not saying that i know more things than you but I'm just saying that for me there is no chance to see Pinot ride the Giro next year
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I'm not reading you specifically but as a Pinot and FDJ fan it's hard avoid you on veloclub or LeGruppetto. :D (I'm not registered btw ... yet)

You should have used "for me", We could have avoided a misunderstanding. Sorry for that.
 
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Marc Madiot seemed to be speaking from both sides of his mouth in yesterday's FDJ interview:

Le doublé Giro-Tour était en effet très compliqué cette année. Pour Thibaut, pour Quintana et bien d’autres. En juillet, il est tombé sur des coureurs qui avaient fait l’impasse sur le début de saison pour des raisons diverses. Sur Uran qui avait eu des ennuis de santé et a dû zapper le Giro, sur Barguil qui avait été blessé et sur Froome qui avait axé sa saison sur le Tour et la Vuelta. Tous ces gars se sont retrouvés au top en juillet. L’an prochain, après le Giro il y aura une semaine de récupération en plus puisque le départ du Tour a été décalé. Je pense qu’un jour Thibaut retournera au Giro avant de faire le Tour. C’est le futur à moyen terme de l’équipe.

He goes to to say that Giro-TdF was "very complicated this year" (i.e.'17) , but that next year there's an additional week between the two...which implies that Thibaut may do the double. Particularly when he later talks about the Worlds and Italian races as objectives.

The end of the paragraph that I quoted is less positive, much to my dismay..."I think that one day Thibaut will come back to the Giro before racing the Tour. It's the medium-term future of the team". What does that mean?

Maybe I got carried away, too enthusiastic yesterday, and after further review, we still don't know for sure what Il Grandissimo Tibopino will do next year. And to add to the confusion, MM also states that having a successful Vuelta as a major objective...

i don't know guys :eek: ...
 
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Isn't Dumo supposed to ride il Giro too?

Regardless, he must focus all his energy on the Tour of Italy, because after Froome's probable "forced withdrawal" and Nibali and Nairo going all in at the Tour, this is THE chance for at least podium (and perhaps victory!)
 
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movingtarget

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Simurgh said:
Isn't Dumo supposed to ride il Giro too?

Regardless, he must focus all his energy on the Tour of Italy, because after Froome's probable "forced withdrawal" and Nibali and Nairo going all in at the Tour, this is THE chance for at least podium (and perhaps victory!)
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If Froome doesn't start the Tour it could be a replay of the Giro. Tom versus Quintana and Nibali plus Bardet with riders like Porte and Martin on the second tier while the Giro would be keenly fought between Landa, Aru and Pinot. I guess Thomas would do the Tour. Chaves in 2016 form would have to be a podium chance in the Giro as well. I wonder who would lead Sky at the Giro maybe Poels ?
 
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staubsauger

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Miguel Angel Lopez might have some problems on the downhill sections, while Aru's inconsistency is his big Achilles heel. Hence, why I thought it was Pinot's big chance for overall glory. Yet, I in fact forgot about Chaves.

Aru, Pinot, Lopez, Chaves & Kruijswijk is a pretty even field looking forward to on paper. Maybe even Pozzovivo if he improves a bit in the TT once again.

Normally though, with these opponents, Landa absolutely has to change back his season schedule to Giro & Tour. He just can't afford to let go these golden chance to become a gt winner if Froome doesn't start the Giro! Mikel certainly tops Aru & Pinot on paper. At least on a course like this.

Same can be said about guys like Fuglsang even. Pinot is doing it right IMHO. Zakarin absolutely clueless!
 
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yaco

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Think it's a fantastic move by FDJ to have Pinot ride the Giro - It gives him another chance to achieve a good GC before going to the TDF in 2019 - May be a chance to give Gaudu a spin at the 2018 TDF for experience.
 
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