This Forum Blows

[Sylvester]

This whole situation is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Ozzie2]

My troll-dar seems to be going into over-drive at the moment.

Because people come in and engage other people, or because to you the only purpose if CN is "to win"

Are some people here_that_serious, that impactted, that damaged that they have just become snide, mean spirited and bitter?

Can I ask which trollers you are referring to?

 

[The Hitch]

After reading François's post, along with what I've witnessed here for years since this forum came online I conclude it's not the forum itself that blows, it's the whole attitude by CN staff and to a smaller degree moderators.

Pathetic behaviour, really.
But hey, it's simple: I won't be coming back here again. See ya. Or hopefully not.

Since you are probably the most knowledgable poster on here, id like to ask if there are any other forums one might be able to find posts from you (apart from Portugese ones).

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Because people come in and engage other people, or because to you the only purpose if CN is "to win"

Are some people here_that_serious, that impactted, that damaged that they have just become snide, mean spirited and bitter?

Can I ask which trollers you are referring to?

He was referring to you.

 

[Froome19]

Since you are probably the most knowledgable poster on here, id like to ask if there are any other forums one might be able to find posts from you (apart from Portugese ones).

He has got over 20000 posts on PCM Daily... if that is your cup of tea..

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Alternatives forums to CN would be a good thread to see started for those of us who enjoy the insights of fellow posters but deplore the attitude and conduct of CN staff.

 

[hiero2]

Wow. Got some hot opinions goin' here!

Not sure if this is the right thread - but I was wondering what LL did to get permanently banned. I mean, I thought she was particularly annoying, but she did seem to be intelligent and mostly rational. Not entirely sad to see her go, but surprised to see a perm ban with no warnings and no reason given.

 

[hiero2]

Alternatives forums to CN would be a good thread to see started for those of us who enjoy the insights of fellow posters but deplore the attitude and conduct of CN staff.

Goin' all the way back to RBM (rec.bikes.misc, remember that?) forums eventually get a lot of crap posters. RBM had a great and long run - because enough people stuck with it even when the going got rough. I mean, even Jobst kept posting, and sometimes he had a good point, when he wasn't just being a curmudgeon!

I fondly remember Spike. I wonder if anybody saved those stories online?

 

[issoisso]

Since you are probably the most knowledgable poster on here, id like to ask if there are any other forums one might be able to find posts from you (apart from Portugese ones).

(Since I got an e-mail asking me to log back in to come reply to this post)

Thanks for the compliment. Several forums actually, but with different nicknames in almost every one and my paranoia with privacy prevents me from revealing which nicknames I use.

One thing links them though: They're all extremely common nicknames. Google issoisso and you'll find three trillion people use the nickname with no hope of finding out what relates to me and what relates to someone else, it's why I chose it as one of my names to use. The only downside being the frequent PMs in forums from people asking "Are you the same [nickname] from [place]?"

But if you're on an english cycling forum be sure I'm around there somewhere, with varying levels of activity

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

How is that 'legal' investigation going? Or is it a Sky style investigation?

CN, modelling its transparency on the UCI

 

[ChrisE]

He was referring to you.

Yeah, because he speaks the inconvenient truth. CN cannot control what other people do, though I am sure your law classes have brainwashed you to think otherwise in preperation for your future ambulance chasing career.

I could not have drawn this whole scenario up better myself. CN and the moderating staff has cultivated the very thing in the clinic that now is rabidly turning on them. For the last few years the moderating staff has basically protected the scattershot libel towards everything LA, and any reasoned perspective or contrary opinion on the issue was always met with hostility and eventually got banned. You do not have to think LA doped, and throw all reason of path forward out the window. Heck, MarkVW was enemy number one for only looking at the legal situation objectively. He is now running around wiping the **** off his nose while getting massages for his whiplash. Your BFF in arms.

CN and the moderating staff get what they deserve here with all of this heat from the cult. Lay down with dogs, get fleas. The last couple of years resulted in this whining pis fest, and it is hilarious. The mods need to fill a jacuzzi full of pine sol and soak for awhile. Though, a tick like you TFF would need a cig on your *** to get you unhooked.

BTW, you showed your shallow integrity by writing how Susan does 'a great job' in another post, after all of your diatribes about her supposed bias and your soap opera in this forum over the last couple of years. You blatantly displayed your total lack of inegrity with that line, which will fit right in with your chosen profession.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Yeah, because he speaks the inconvenient truth. CN cannot control what other people do, though I am sure your law classes have brainwashed you to think otherwise in preperation for your future ambulance chasing career.

I could not have drawn this whole scenario up better myself. CN and the moderating staff has cultivated the very thing in the clinic that now is rabidly turning on them. For the last few years the moderating staff has basically protected the scattershot libel towards everything LA, and any reasoned perspective or contrary opinion on the issue was always met with hostility and eventually got banned. You do not have to think LA doped, and throw all reason of path forward out the window. Heck, MarkVW was enemy number one for only looking at the legal situation objectively. He is now running around wiping the **** off his nose while getting massages for his whiplash. Your BFF in arms.

CN and the moderating staff get what they deserve here with all of this heat from the cult. Lay down with dogs, get fleas. The last couple of years resulted in this whining pis fest, and it is hilarious. The mods need to fill a jacuzzi full of pine sol and soak for awhile. Though, a tick like you TFF would need a cig on your *** to get you unhooked.

BTW, you showed your shallow integrity by writing how Susan does 'a great job' in another post, after all of your diatribes about her supposed bias and your soap opera in this forum over the last couple of years. You blatantly displayed your total lack of inegrity with that line, which will fit right in with your chosen profession.

Try to address the post and not the poster in the future ChrisE. It's really the best way to interact on a forum.

I hope in the future we can interact in a more civil manner, dare I say friendly even. I would love to return to the days when you PM'd me about sniffing out BPC and getting him banned. You are so perceptive and intelligent, I would suggest that you above all should undertake this sort of thing on a regular basis.

And in your personal life, I really hope that you keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars. I'm reminded of a Johann Wolfgang von Goethe quote:

If the mass of people hesitate to act, strike thou in swift with all boldness; the noble heart that understands and seizes quick hold of opportunity can achieve everything.

I'll close with these words that I believe really sum up who ChrisE is, nay, dare I say, they sum up who we all are. Kum Ba ya in the house brother, Kum Ba ya...but I digress, here, I leave you with my hope and love and these words:

Don't hide yourself in regret
Just love yourself and you're set
You're on the right track, baby
You were born this way, born this way

 

[Ozzie2]

Im not buying into the personal PM element of your relationship, but Chewie, as an outsider to all of this, this is what I see


Pots. Calling. Kettle. Black

Spoilt little children taking their bat and ball back.

Worse still, anonymous bullies who used the web to spread what in every other part of the wrtitten world is libellous accusation, and not reasoned discussion.

(ie LA is a dirty filthy child abusing drug cheat is not the same as "i hold suspicions that LA does not treat children well and has improved his performance through chemicals that are banned and dangerous. discuss")

How does this place blow? Its exactly the same place its been for ever. Its a forum relyong in goodwill of people to keep it borderline legal to give us as much rope as we can have to make it a fun place

It seems some people took the whole RR thing to heart (rightly or wrongly) and because they didnt get_their_way in the outcome they wanted, they spit the dummy

If LA were here he'd be laughing at us. The sh***ers feeling agrieved beacuse someone returns the favour

I read these posts and wonder if many of the people are over 18 yet?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Im not buying into the personal PM element of your relationship, but Chewie, as an outsider to all of this, this is what I see


Pots. Calling. Kettle. Black

Spoilt little children taking their bat and ball back.

Worse still, anonymous bullies who used the web to spread what in every other part of the wrtitten world is libellous accusation, and not reasoned discussion.

(ie LA is a dirty filthy child abusing drug cheat is not the same as "i hold suspicions that LA does not treat children well and has improved his performance through chemicals that are banned and dangerous. discuss")

How does this place blow? Its exactly the same place its been for ever. Its a forum relyong in goodwill of people to keep it borderline legal to give us as much rope as we can have to make it a fun place

It seems some people took the whole RR thing to heart (rightly or wrongly) and because they didnt get_their_way in the outcome they wanted, they spit the dummy

If LA were here he'd be laughing at us. The sh***ers feeling agrieved beacuse someone returns the favour

I read these posts and wonder if many of the people are over 18 yet?

As to the "I'm gonna bait BPC and get him banned" PM from ChrisE, I couldn't care less whether or not you believe it. It happened. He snuggled up all buddy, buddy, and then just days later wrote a snide little post in the open forum about me when I got banned for a month and couldn't respond. Many men have two faces, so no real skin off my back. That is reflective of his character and has nothing to do with mine. I mean, we are talking about the guy who wanted Lance to be exonerated NOT because he didn't dope, but singularly because he wanted to be able to come in here and mock people. His character is weak, and his moral compass has no needle. What he or some sockpuppet like you think of anything here is irrelevant.

As for the rest, we get it, you love Lance. Noted.

Here's how I feel after responding to people like you and ChrisE:

 

[ChrisE]

Please post that PM about me baiting to get BPC banned. I am calling you right now a liar. I also believe I wrote a post that you should not be banned. With a twisted memory like yours, you will make a great lawyer checking whatever integrity you have at the door each day.

Everybody knows that I have always been against banning, and for less moderation. Banning only occurs when thin skinned cult children start whining when people have different opinions, and those bans occured under the impetous of the moderating staff here.

All it ever took was for one of the regular crybabies to whine "troll" when somebody hurt their feelings (had a different opinion) and one of the moderating puppets would swoop in and do the deed. As I say, reap what you sow CN. This is your little zoo.

Now you clowns are all over CN for not "protecting" you, a decision with which your forum hero endorsed lol. Whiny little *****es wanting your accounts deleted, instead of just leaving lol. What a romper room. You guys are funny.

Even as cynical as I am about most of you, I still cannot wrap my head around giving personal information to Joe Papp. Call me what you want, TFF. At least I don't have the word "Sucker" tattooed on my forehead.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Please post that PM about me baiting to get BPC banned. I am calling you right now a liar. I also believe I wrote a post that you should not be banned. With a twisted memory like yours, you will make a great lawyer checking whatever integrity you have at the door each day.

Everybody knows that I have always been against banning, and for less moderation. Banning only occurs when thin skinned cult children start whining when people have different opinions, and those bans occured under the impetous of the moderating staff here.

All it ever took was for one of the regular crybabies to whine "troll" when somebody hurt their feelings (had a different opinion) and one of the moderating puppets would swoop in and do the deed. As I say, reap what you sow CN. This is your little zoo.

Now you clowns are all over CN for not "protecting" you, a decision with which your forum hero endorsed lol. Whiny little *****es wanting your accounts deleted, instead of just leaving lol. What a romper room. You guys are funny.

Even as cynical as I am about most of you, I still cannot wrap my head around giving personal information to Joe Papp. Call me what you want, TFF. At least I don't have the word "Sucker" tattooed on my forehead.

We are going to have the "you're a liar... no, you're a liar" back and forth, but you know for a fact that you sent me that PM. You can deny it because you know the TFF account was deleted, so I cannot possibly present the PM, but it happened. That you can lie externally and internally know it happened is just another reflection of your character or lack thereof as is the case here.

Now, here is the post you made right after I was banned:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=775598&postcount=126

Just curious, why do you like his posts? He is just a cross between RR and Berzin, with a sprinkling of buckwheat.

This was done right after you wrote that snivling, servile PM where you tried to act all buddy, buddy.

Note that your claim that your post was about me not being banned is a lie, as I have proven by providing the actual post in question. Note that nowhere in the post do you mention this claim of defending me against being banned.

You lied about that, I am pretty sure that everyone can see you are lying about the other too.

But, again, I want to cool the jets man. I want to peace out brother. Lets squash the hatred and get groovy again. Far out!

Nah, I changed my mind, go **** yourself.

As for me providing my personal email address to Joe...yea, I was stupid for doing so, but if it's the worst thing I do, at least I am not a lying ******* with no moral compass. I'll take being momentarily stupid over that any day.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Oh yea, almost forgot

 

[ChrisE]

We are going to have the "you're a liar... no, you're a liar" back and forth, but you know for a fact that you sent me that PM. You can deny it because you know the TFF account was deleted, so I cannot possibly present the PM, but it happened. That you can lie externally and internally know it happened is just another reflection of your character or lack thereof as is the case here.

Now, here is the post you made right after I was banned:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=775598&postcount=126



This was done right after you wrote that snivling, servile PM where you tried to act all buddy, buddy.

Note that your claim that your post was about me not being banned is a lie, as I have proven by providing the actual post in question. Note that nowhere in the post do you mention this claim of defending me against being banned.

You lied about that, I am pretty sure that everyone can see you are lying about the other too.

But, again, I want to cool the jets man. I want to peace out brother. Lets squash the hatred and get groovy again. Far out!

Nah, I changed my mind, go **** yourself.

As for me providing my personal email address to Joe...yea, I was stupid for doing so, but if it's the worst thing I do, at least I am not a lying ******* with no moral compass. I'll take being momentarily stupid over that any day.

You are full of ****. Just because I question cobblestoned on why he likes you means I think you should be banned? You rant about PED use but methinks you would burn a hole in the bottom of the cup right about now.

That is out of yours and your fellow cultists playbooks, not mine.

I don't know if your TFF account is deleted or not, nor do I care. All I know is that all the times I have publicly argued with Martin about this very issue (banning) in the mod thread, squarely on the side of not banning anybody, for you to go and claim I am trying to get somebody banned is ludicrous. Maybe in your twisted cranium it all makes sense. Yes, you are a liar, along with being full of **** with your present day brown-nosing of Susan. You and Papp the same person?

Now run along and read up on some law books so you can keep Benotti lined out. BTW, I like your avatar. Fits you perfectly. Take care.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

You are full of ****. Just because I question cobblestoned on why he likes you means I think you should be banned? You rant about PED use but methinks you would burn a hole in the bottom of the cup right about now.

That is out of yours and your fellow cultists playbooks, not mine.

I don't know if your TFF account is deleted or not, nor do I care. All I know is that all the times I have publicly argued with Martin about this very issue (banning) in the mod thread, squarely on the side of not banning anybody, for you to go and claim I am trying to get somebody banned is ludicrous. Maybe in your twisted cranium it all makes sense. Yes, you are a liar, along with being full of **** with your present day brown-nosing of Susan. You and Papp the same person?

Now run along and read up on some law books so you can keep Benotti lined out. BTW, I like your avatar. Fits you perfectly. Take care.

Dang, you're either stupid or can't read? I don't really care which because you have little to no value as a member of society because of your mercury like morals.

I never said you wanted me to be banned. I said you made a snide comment when I got banned (you can go to the tape for confirmation) after sniffing my jock. That happened.

 

[MarkvW]

If you establish that you are "right" in an argument with ChrisE, what have you established (other than that you are "right")?

I saw his posts today only because I hadn't logged in. The ignore feature is useful in some instances.

 

[ChrisE]

If you establish that you are "right" in an argument with ChrisE, what have you established (other than that you are "right")?

I saw his posts today only because I hadn't logged in. The ignore feature is useful in some instances.

Cool. And when you log back out you will see this.

I use to defend and admire your opinions in the clinic. They were reasoned and well thought out in my opinion. Cultists were piling on calling you names, putting YOU on ignore, etc. The usual BS done by the cult.

Now, at the end of the day you are one in the same, a full fledged member of the whiners club. Even you and TFF, who called you names and belittled you relentlessly about your law knowledge, are buddies. You have zero integrity. I guess my feelings about your earlier posts were my "Papp moment".

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Cool. And when you log back out you will see this.

I use to defend and admire your opinions in the clinic. They were reasoned and well thought out in my opinion. Cultists were piling on calling you names, putting YOU on ignore, etc. The usual BS done by the cult.

Now, at the end of the day you are one in the same, a full fledged member of the whiners club. Even you and TFF, who called you names and belittled you relentlessly about your law knowledge, are buddies. You have zero integrity. I guess my feelings about your earlier posts were my "Papp moment".

No, Mark and I buried the hatchet via PM. Unlike when you and I did that, he has not turned into a back-biting little liar later. You don't understand why that matters because you have no moral compass and therefore no problem with indiscriminately hammering people with whom you have previously ceased hostility. It's cool, nobody expects that you will act differently.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

If you establish that you are "right" in an argument with ChrisE, what have you established (other than that you are "right")?

I saw his posts today only because I hadn't logged in. The ignore feature is useful in some instances.

Why did you have to come in and ruin this dialogue?

This back and forth between TFF and ChrisE can go on for a few pages and I would not complain, but you had to chime in where you are not needed.

Now let the dialogue between these two individuals carry on and stay frosty.

 

[ChrisE]

No, Mark and I buried the hatchet via PM. Unlike when you and I did that, he has not turned into a back-biting little liar later. You don't understand why that matters because you have no moral compass and therefore no problem with indiscriminately hammering people with whom you have previously ceased hostility. It's cool, nobody expects that you will act differently.

Good, you buried the hatchet. If he had any balls he would not give you the time of day after the crap you etal dished out to him. I guess the crave to want to be part of the cool crowd trumps self respect. Mark reminds me of the Patrick Dempsey character in "Can't Buy Me Love". I'm gonna start calling him Ronald.

You and I "burried the hatchet" right when I got in here and we all got banned for a day or so. Nothing since then. Again, you have me mistaken if you think I PM'd you saying I would bait to get BPC banned, and that I wanted you banned. Cool story, bro. Hey, at least you got Ronald on your side lol. Backbones abound in your little posse.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Good, you buried the hatchet. If he had any balls he would not give you the time of day after the crap you etal dished out to him. I guess the crave to want to be part of the cool crowd trumps self respect. Mark reminds me of the Patrick Dempsey character in "Can't Buy Me Love". I'm gonna start calling him Ronald.

You and I "burried the hatchet" right when I got in here and we all got banned for a day or so. Nothing since then. Again, you have me mistaken if you think I PM'd you saying I would bait to get BPC banned, and that I wanted you banned. Cool story, bro. Hey, at least you got Ronald on your side lol. Backbones abound in your little posse.

1. You are lying about the BPC PM. Everyone knows you are a liar, so no reason to keep beating the drum of innocence because it is falling on deaf ears.

2. I never said you wanted me banned. Again, you appear unable to read proficiently. I suggest private tutoring. You're welcome.