Thomas Dekker comeback thread

[boomcie]

You guys really should come to the amstel gold race meeting we have each year. It's always such a laugh

Thanks, that would be so awesome.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

the agr is one of the best days of the year, also eveyr year the weather is great and we have loads of fun telling stories and discussing details of cycling for hours as only true cycling nerds can _O_

 

[Cobblestoned]

So what do you expect from him in his first real year after his ban?

Same we expect from you on your first real day after your ban.

 

[scullster46]

What do you guys think of his possibilities with worlds? The course may suit him well, and who knows how good Gesink will be at that point. Will he even be chosen for the dutch team??

 

[boomcie]

What do you guys think of his possibilities with worlds? The course may suit him well, and who knows how good Gesink will be at that point. Will he even be chosen for the dutch team??

If I were severely depressed, I'd be willing to bet my life that a Dutch rider would win the worlds next year.

 

[Cobblestoned]

If I were severely depressed, I'd be willing to bet my life that a Dutch rider would win the worlds next year.

Yeah, Marianne Voss

 

[boomcie]

Yeah, Marianne Voss

If I follow Ryo's logic she will most definitely end second again.

 

[Ruudz0r]

The Dutch can have an awesome WC team.

Gesink, Mollema, Kruijswijk, Poels, Ruijgh, Hoogerland, Kroon (if he is at a good level again), Dekker (if he is at a good level again). 8 guys who can really perform on the parcours of the 2012 worlds (+ probably extra motivated since it is in the Netherlands).

Anyway OT: Im really curious about what Dekker is able to do next year.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

What do you guys think of his possibilities with worlds? The course may suit him well, and who knows how good Gesink will be at that point. Will he even be chosen for the dutch team??

the course isn't rteally hard though and he has problems placign himself but he is explosive. he used to be good in classics

 

[FignonLeGrand]

The Dutch can have an awesome WC team.

Gesink, Mollema, Kruijswijk, Poels, Ruijgh, Hoogerland, Kroon (if he is at a good level again), Dekker (if he is at a good level again). 8 guys who can really perform on the parcours of the 2012 worlds (+ probably extra motivated since it is in the Netherlands).

Anyway OT: Im really curious about what Dekker is able to do next year.

The Dutch often have a good or very good team, they just cannnot win. I dont know why, I am not bing anti dutch, but so often the Dutch just seem to conspitre to lose it for themselves. Even in the Nationals its no so rare for a non Rabo rider to win which is just unthinkable from a team perpsective. As for Vos; well surely they have to realize they have the wrong tactics, this year they had a whole team near the front one second and the next they missed the jump. Should have sent someone away for a last km victory but no they went for Vos as she was guaranteed to win . . . . .. . . . . edit; sorry I mean finish second.

 

[Kwibus]

The Dutch often have a good or very good team, they just cannnot win. I dont know why, I am not bing anti dutch, but so often the Dutch just seem to conspitre to lose it for themselves. Even in the Nationals its no so rare for a non Rabo rider to win which is just unthinkable from a team perpsective. As for Vos; well surely they have to realize they have the wrong tactics, this year they had a whole team near the front one second and the next they missed the jump. Should have sent someone away for a last km victory but no they went for Vos as she was guaranteed to win . . . . .. . . . . edit; sorry I mean finish second.

It's not all that strange since the dutch lack a rider like Gilbert, Cavendish, Hushovd, Contador, Evans etc. They/We got strong riders, but we simply lack a champion. Someone that is actually able to win hard races, instead of finishing 3rd or 8th etc.
It's not like countries without a champion do any better.
I'm talking about men now obviously. Vos is a different story.

About Dekker: I don't expect too much from him this year.

 

[theyoungest]

thomas will have a year like 2007 I think, he will fight for wins in tirreno and or p-n already. could also do very well gc in tour since they have no other gc man

Wow, some expectations you have. A bit rich, if we look at what he's done this season.

A good GC at the Tour is certainly out of the question. In fact I don't know if he could ever do that, he's not a born GT rider.

The Dutch often have a good or very good team, they just cannnot win. I dont know why, I am not bing anti dutch, but so often the Dutch just seem to conspitre to lose it for themselves. Even in the Nationals its no so rare for a non Rabo rider to win which is just unthinkable from a team perpsective. As for Vos; well surely they have to realize they have the wrong tactics, this year they had a whole team near the front one second and the next they missed the jump. Should have sent someone away for a last km victory but no they went for Vos as she was guaranteed to win . . . . .. . . . . edit; sorry I mean finish second.

Vos was the fastest by far, she just got boxed in. The whole peloton rides on her wheel. You can call that lame tactics, but I don't think it's that weird to appoint the best rider in the world as your team leader.

As for the Dutch men conspiring to lose it for themselves, when do we ever go into the Worlds as favourites? That's right: never.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

It's not all that strange since the dutch lack a rider like Gilbert, Cavendish, Hushovd, Contador, Evans etc. They/We got strong riders, but we simply lack a champion. Someone that is actually able to win hard races, instead of finishing 3rd or 8th etc.
It's not like countries without a champion do any better.
I'm talking about men now obviously. Vos is a different story.

About Dekker: I don't expect too much from him this year.

its the same with the oranje

 

[theyoungest]

its the same with the oranje

No, that's totally different. as in football we have actual world class players.

BTW, for the Dutchies (and Belgians): tomorrow night Thomas Dekker will be on De Wereld Draait Door.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Wow, some expectations you have. A bit rich, if we look at what he's done this season.

A good GC at the Tour is certainly out of the question. In fact I don't know if he could ever do that, he's not a born GT rider.


Vos was the fastest by far, she just got boxed in. The whole peloton rides on her wheel. You can call that lame tactics, but I don't think it's that weird to appoint the best rider in the world as your team leader.

As for the Dutch men conspiring to lose it for themselves, when do we ever go into the Worlds as favourites? That's right: never.

yeah I remember people laughed at me when I said rujano was the only rider able to follow contador in the giro. look what happened

 

[theyoungest]

yeah I remember people laughed at me when I said rujano was the only rider able to follow contador in the giro. look what happened

You were wrong.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

You were wrong.

He was on Etna and the other mountain

 

[theyoungest]

He was on Etna and the other mountain

Rujano couldn't follow Contador, otherwise he'd have finished 2nd on GC. To do it two or three times isn't enough, just ask Nibali. Or Steven Kruijswijk, for that matter.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

he didn't finish 2nd because of that sterrato stage. he lost over 5 minutes there. fact. also he lost more than 2 minutes in a rainstage. in mountains he was equel of rujano despite not being well the 2nd week and being on anti biotics.

 

[theyoungest]

he didn't finish 2nd because of that sterrato stage. he lost over 5 minutes there. fact. also he lost more than 2 minutes in a rainstage. in mountains he was equel of rujano despite not being well the 2nd week and being on anti biotics.

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[boomcie]

yeah I remember people laughed at me when I said rujano was the only rider able to follow contador in the giro. look what happened

If you make over a 100 claims involving Colombian (Let's say South American) cyclists, chances are at least one of them is going to come [partially] true.

 

[boomcie]

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[theyoungest]

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[boomcie]

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[theyoungest]

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