Tirreno - Adriatico 2022 (7.03-13.03)

[ij74]

Pog should go for the double already this year..
let the monuments for later..

Naah. In my world, monuments mean more than double and also it is more fun.

 

[Salvarani]

Pog has an uncanny ability to inflict sudden extreme fatigue on all the other riders within seconds after his attack. Lethargy and excessive sleepiness might occur.

His accelerations are just so powerful or that he "just" puts everything into it when he attacks. More so than others. Nobody thinks they could follow without blowing up completely and maybe thats true, but they wont know unless they try.

He is able to push on by himself, but not often at a crazy pace. More like a high but steady pace, when he is alone.

 

[Big Doopie]

Yeah Bernal. But he won't be in shape this year to take them on IMO.

Bernal is nowhere close to Pog.

Even when 100% healthy.

Not in same ballpark.

Sorry.

 

[postmanhat]

Why are you guys so down on the Tour already? What do you realistically prefer - an 'open' race where people ride defensively for marginal gains (see what I did there) or a race that blows up like today with huge time differences with a little less suspense of the final outcome? Basically, do you prefer the Giro of 2011 or 2012? Tour 2021 or Tour 2017? The answer is pretty clear for me. Also, lets see what Jumbo has to offer in July, Vingegaard and Roglic can contest Pogacar on their days, although I must admit it looks hard. It kinda reminds me of the Armstrong vs Telekom/T-Mobile years in the mid 00's. It sucks that Bernal is out since Jumbo is the only team I can see that can do anything against such a complete and insanely talented rider as Pogacar - the best rider I have ever seen. Armstrong, Basso, Ullrich, Boonen, Valverde, Cancellara, Contador, Wout... nope, Pogacar is the best.

Well I suppose the easy answer is GTs that aren't effectively over after a week, or stage races after a couple of days. Neither of which look likely for the foreseeable future, where Pogacar is a proganist. You can throw as much history at it as you like, it's just not really very interesting to watch after a while/very short time.

 

[Samamba]

Ewan was second last year.

Last years edition didn't have Pogacar.

 

[Valv.Piti]

But do you prefer the opposite, an 'open' race where the riders take a few seconds on each other on the MTFs that we have seen in the past? I think thats just fake suspense.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Why are you guys so down on the Tour already? What do you realistically prefer - an 'open' race where people ride defensively for marginal gains (see what I did there) or a race that blows up like today with huge time differences with a little less suspense of the final outcome? Basically, do you prefer the Giro of 2011 or 2012? Tour 2021 or Tour 2017? The answer is pretty clear for me. Also, lets see what Jumbo has to offer in July, Vingegaard and Roglic can contest Pogacar on their days, although I must admit it looks hard. It kinda reminds me of the Armstrong vs Telekom/T-Mobile years in the mid 00's. It sucks that Bernal is out since Jumbo is the only team I can see that can do anything against such a complete and insanely talented rider as Pogacar - the best rider I have ever seen. Armstrong, Basso, Ullrich, Boonen, Valverde, Cancellara, Contador, Wout... nope, Pogacar is the best.

I think people would like to see humans with strengths and weaknesses battle it out and try to take advantage of their strengths and limit losses elsewhere, with their rivals trying to take advantage of those weaknesses while having different weaknesses of their own, without team dominance. So not robots that are the best at everything or teams that can decimate the field and just have to have their leader sprint for 200m on a MTF.

 

[tobydawq]

Pogacar, Vingegaard. 1, 2.

Why do I feel like I've seen that one before?

Because they ended in those positions in the GC and two stages of the Tour.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

But do you prefer the opposite, an 'open' race where the riders take a few seconds on each other on the MTFs that we have seen in the past? I think thats just fake suspense.

Both are equally terrible to me. I would probably take the 2021 Tour over the 2017 Tour because the racing outside the mountain stages (ignoring crashes) was a bit better, but both belong on the pile of Tours that would have been disappointing if I'd expected them not to be poor.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

What a pleasure to see Landa back in the attack and climbing fast. Makes up for the dominance of Pogacar

 

[Anderis]

Man, cycling has become so ridiculous, yet so predictable recently.

I'm completely not enjoying it at the moment.

 

[postmanhat]

But do you prefer the opposite, an 'open' race where the riders take a few seconds on each other on the MTFs that we have seen in the past? I think thats just fake suspense.

I suppose I'm trying to put it in the perspective of eras, and we're now, definitively, in Pogacar's.

I started watching at the tail end of the battles between Lemond/Fignon which was a fantastic introduction. Then came the boredom of the Indurain years, but outside of The Tour, he was far from dominant in stage races and not really prominent in one-day races. Thankfully, I missed most of the Armstrong era due to working abroad. Then came Froome, who was similar to Indurain, except slightly more entertaining imo.

Pogacar, like Merckx, looks like he can win every race he enters. So perhaps the only real interest now, like then, is how he competes against a great generation of classics riders?

 

[Big Doopie]

I suppose I'm trying to put it in the perspective of eras, and we're now, definitively, in Pogacar's.

I started watching at the tail end of the battles between Lemond/Fignon which was a fantastic introduction. Then came the boredom of the Indurain years, but outside of The Tour, he was far from dominant in stage races and not really prominent in one-day races. Thankfully, I missed most of the Armstrong era due to working abroad. Then came Froome, who was similar to Indurain, except slightly more entertaining imo.

Pogacar, like Merckx, looks like he can win every race he enters now. So perhaps the only real interest now, like then, is how he competes against a great generation of classics riders?

great post.

i will never understand why the TDF organizers didn't change up the Indurain years formula. Every year he won he benefitted from two very long ITTs (and TTTs). and his only real rival (who could both climb and TT), Rominger, only put it together for 1993, and proceeded to lose 5 minutes in the TTT...

 

[Lequack]

Amazing stage, and brutal climbs yet again. It looked so cold up there. Congrats to Pog for yet another masterclass

 

[SHAD0W93]

Wow Pogi is Amazing, and he's just a kid having fun riding his bike. Hopefully Rogla will at least make a race of it when they meet. Who else is there to take Pogi on?

He’s just out for a regular Saturday ride with his friends.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations to Pogačar for taking the stage win.

P.S. Only fair. Due to missing his chance yesterday and for that not being his fault.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Long stage, cold weather, tough climbs. This stage had Poglification written all over it and I felt it even before the race. Monster attack by Pog - he gained 1'30'' in 4 km of climb! This is Pantani level of domination (and his climb after all). The difference of speed (against top guys like Vingegaard and Mas) was so stark even on TV. I dunno his VAM here but it's possible that difficulty of the stage influenced his rivals way more than him (like at Grand Bornand). The guy is an absolute beast - from gravel of Tuscany to walls of Apennines. Unbeaten this year plus 4 stages. I don't know if it's possible (?) but maybe this year he will be even better than in previous seasons. Scary for his rivals. Remco was left in the dust today - maybe a bad day but he had no chance against elite "terrestrial" climbers, not to mention the baby-faced KIller from Komenda. HIs climbing seems weaker than before.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Thymen Arensman might be one of the few DSM-ers who doesn't actually suck. Top 10 in this field is quite impressive

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

He’s just out for a regular Saturday ride with his friends.

A very bad mannered friend. leaving his pals behind like that two Saturdays in a row (soon to be three?)

 

[SHAD0W93]

A very bad mannered friend. leaving his pals behind like that two Saturdays in a row (soon to be three?)

There’s always that one try hard friend.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Pog should go for the double already this year..
let the monuments for later..

Nooooo!

Give Porte and Landa their chance at Giro!!

 

[Jungle Cycle]

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[Pantani_lives]

This was a Tirreno of an exceptionally high level. It was completely dominated by the GT specialists. In other years classic riders can play along for the GC, but they didn't come close this year. The climbs were taken very agressively.

 

[tobydawq]

This was a Tirreno of an exceptionally high level. It was completely dominated by the GT specialists. In other years classic riders can play along for the GC, but they didn't come close this year. The climbs were taken very agressively.

What? When have classics riders been able to compete for the GC in Tirreno? 2016, sure, but otherwise you have to go back to the mid-noughties.

 

[RedheadDane]

What? When have classics riders been able to compete for the GC in Tirreno? 2016, sure, but otherwise you have to go back to the mid-noughties.

I suppose that would depend on whether you consider WvA a classics rider, or more of a just-kind-of-everything rider.