Tirreno-Adriatico 2026 March 9-15

[AlfaLum]

Uno X is a more despicable team than UAE honestly. They always do this ***. Like what does that company even do unless try to eliminate any semblance of entertainment from this world

Johannessen gains two spots in the GC. Thats a good performance for them. Why should take care about what you find entertaining.

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[Salvarani]

So Del Toro got the win, but should Red Bull worry about Roglic?

Dont think so, he is riding as expected so far.

 

[Extinction]

What a race, not that weak stuff in PN!

 

[Red Rick]

Johannessen gains two spots in the GC. Thats a good performance for them. Why should take care about what you find entertaining.

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They chased a rider they wouldn't pass, minimized chances of winning the stage. What more do you want.

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[Krzysztof_O]

So Red Bull are the only team that legit tried something and all the other teams punished them for it.

But the only takeaway is that Roglic is a bad teammate and should be ashamed of himself.

Rogla did a nice pull for Del Toro fearing that Pellizzari's victory will be too dominant. Legend of suspense!

 

[Extinction]

And to think, Del Toro is not the alpha male on his team. 😳

 

[Krzysztof_O]

And to think, Del Toro is not the alpha male on his team. 😳

Roglic also wasn't in 2023 and it was a way more extreme example. Del Toro hasn't won any big race yet.

 

[AlfaLum]

They chased a rider they wouldn't pass, minimized chances of winning the stage. What more do you want.

They got it right. THJ was better than Roglic and Ciccone yesterday and Uno probably thought that he would benefit from a hard climb, even on the shallow section.

It was the only spot left where Anders could make an impact and he did. Your dislike of del Toro does not have to get in the way of every opinion you have.

 

[canina82]

And to think, Del Toro is not the alpha male on his team. 😳

On his way to become the third best GC rider. Bora in shambles, Remco and Roglic are probably gone as GC winners in major stage races and GTs. Lipo has too many limitations. The only rider they have who gives me great vibes is Pelli.

 

[YavorD]

Lovely riding by the Halland Johannessen brothers. After the last few days THJ should back himself, the team should back him and believe he can win at this level. He didn’t make it today but another strong performance and a small jump in the GC.
Of course Red Rick will be angry at the smaller team not trying to win “the right way”.

Though I think THJ would have a better chance of winning simply riding on IDT's wheel who had to ride and close the gap.

Then again, We've seen how Del Toro willingly throws a GC in a bigger race, so..

 

[YavorD]

On his way to become the third best GC rider. Bora in shambles, Remco and Roglic are probably gone as GC winners in major stage races and GTs. Lipo has too many limitations. The only rider they have who gives me great vibes is Pelli.

Wait, what??
Lipo has limitations whereas Del Toro, who is a weaker TT rider and unproven in the high mountains doesn't?

 

[Boehmand]

Only 1 second separates Pellizzari and Jorgenson on GC.
Only 6 points separates Del Toro, Johannessen and Pellizzari for the points jersey - and MvdP is 12 seconds off the jersey.

There is an intermediate sprint after 99.5K tomorrow, 35K of flat after the climbs - and after that it is completely flat again and for the sprinters.

Which means we may get the very weird situation, where both Visma and Uno-X (and possibly Alpecin) work to keep every breakout in check for 99.5K tomorrow, because of the intermediate sprint.

However that may not be the play for the GC teams, because of MvdP (especially because he can take points at the finish too).

Would they hit the morning break with their GC guy - because of the intermediate sprint (but that starts a domino effect for everyone in the top 20)?

Or can they ride the climbs (and the 36K of flat after) hard enough, to avoid fast guys are in contention for the intermediate?

It will be very interesting to see how the GC teams play this.

 

[canina82]

Wait, what??
Lipo has limitations whereas Del Toro, who is a weaker TT rider and unproven in the high mountains doesn't?

Lipo is very poor in positioning and chaotic races

 

[pastronef]

Christen rode his azz off for his team today

 

[Sciatic]

I dont think Jorgenson is ever going to beat IDT on a finish like that.

I agree; but not sure what else he should do in that context. Going much earlier in the climb was not the right strategy here as all those who tried faded. So the other strategy would be just sit on his wheel till the final 50 meters, but Del Toro's sprint will still be better. Attacking when he did at least took the chance that Del Toro might have some fatigue--and he can't know if he doesn't try it.

 

[YavorD]

Lipo is very poor in positioning and chaotic races

I don't deny that. Yet, with Del Toro's known weaknesses, I don't think he'll be better 3 weeks rider.
He will probably be a great 1 week rider though.

 

[AlfaLum]

Wait, what??
Lipo has limitations whereas Del Toro, who is a weaker TT rider and unproven in the high mountains doesn't?

Lipowitz basically has zero wins above .1 level at this stage in his career. His Dauphine-Tour combination last year was very impressive, but it is still hard to go from there to become a real winner.

Del Toro has a lot of weapons and is a winner. Yes he has things to fix as well to become a GT (not a GC) winner. Del Toro also is three years younger than Lipowitz. I think it is normal that people think Del Toro is the better GC bet here.

 

[canina82]

I don't deny that. Yet, with Del Toro's known weaknesses, I don't think he'll be better 3 weeks rider.
He will probably be a great 1 week rider though.

Known weaknesses? He is a very decent TT rider, I don't even think he is worse than Lipowitz. Del Toro is also 3 years younger and he is improving more than Lipo. We will see in the high mountains where he stands.

 

[YavorD]

Known weaknesses? He is a very decent TT rider, I don't even think he is worse than Lipowitz. Del Toro is also 3 years younger and he is improving more than Lipo. We will see in the high mountains where he stands.

Del Toro is quite inconsistent. Lipo hasn't been outside of top 10 last year.

 

[canina82]

Del Toro is quite inconsistent. Lipo hasn't been outside of top 10 last year.

What is your evidence? Only the Giro, right? And probably lost because of his pacing strategy in Finestre (a tremendous positive split because of Carapaz). He was better there than on San Valentino. This year, he has been very consistent and dominate both GCs. With a better team he would win 2 or 3 stages in TA.

 

[Ulle97]

Delighted to see Quintana do pretty well. He has been climbing decently this week and finished alongside Carapaz today.
Could potentially still win a GT stage from a breakaway if the opportunity comes.

 

[Extinction]

Roglic also wasn't in 2023 and it was a way more extreme example. Del Toro hasn't won any big race yet.

Doesn't matter, Del Toro is to Roglic as Pogacar is to Vingegaard.

 

[Oldman]

On his way to become the third best GC rider. Bora in shambles, Remco and Roglic are probably gone as GC winners in major stage races and GTs. Lipo has too many limitations. The only rider they have who gives me great vibes is Pelli.

Seems a bit early in the season to write off Roglic, who is performing as expected for the first race. Remco's not here and has won most of the races he's been in so far.

 

[Oldman]

Doesn't matter, Del Toro is to Roglic as Pogacar is to Vingegaard.

So who did DelToro pass in the last meters to take the stage?

 

[canina82]

Seems a bit early in the season to write off Roglic, who is performing as expected for the first race. Remco's not here and has won most of the races he's been in so far.

Remco raced in Mallorca and Valencia to get some confidence. He was winning Mickey mouse races, the first real test he had this season, he was humiliated and he expected to win UAE Tour. In Catalunya, he will be better but he will also have better competition and in better shape compared to early February (e.g. Almeida). I constantly see posts about Remco still didn't go to altitude and will improve significantly and I just ask "Is everyone bar Remco peaking in February?" Of course not, and a lot of gc riders didn't also go to altitude (e.g. Del Toro, Almeida).