Tom 'Pidders' Pidcock

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What a disappointing season. He was nowhere close to as good as I - and most other probably - thought he would be. He seems to lack endurance, recovery and consistency, and he's honestly not that good on cobbles. I wonder what he's planning on targeting next season?
 
His spring was disappointing. Health issues probably held him back because he never reached the level he showed last year. I do agree cobbles are not his forte, but he's so talented that he will likely score some big results in cobble races too.

Tour was a success in my opinion. Winning on Alpe d'Huez can define a career and he was good enough for a couple of weeks before fading in the last one. How much will he focus on stage racing in the future? Winning GTs sure requires more dedication and specific training. I don't think you can do that while still racing bot CX and MTB.
 
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Winning the CX World Championship, Euro MTB Championship, the L'Alpe D'Huez stage of the Tour would normally be seen as pretty impressive.
Blimey, you're a tough bunch here....
thing is many people wrongly 'categorized' him in the same box as WvA and MvdP. But in fact all 3 riders couldn't be more different.
Pidcock is a natural climber and much more of a GC rider in the future, and also for the hard hilly classics. He's nowhere near good enough on cobbles. He's too light. His Tour was actually very good. And his climbing skills show even more in the MTB scene.

Van der Poel is just a raw powerhouse on short intensive efforts, where RVV is almost the perfect race for him. And Van Aert is another cookie who just has endless watts/stamina topped of with good sprint and positioning skills which makes him a super allrounder that can win on almost any terrain.

But if you compare Pidcock to those two and expect the same classics results yeah than it looks weird. Also Pidcock had some health issues this year which makes his spring look worse than it could've been. I think the Tour showed what he is capable of and I think in the future he'll show more in stage races and pure climbing stages.
 
I'm very surprised people even talk about Pidcock as a potential GT winner.
Agree. Also, lets take a look at Ineos' squad for the upcoming season in terms of stage racing. This is just off the top of my head: Egan, G, Arensman, C-Rod, Sivakov, Hart, Felipe Martinez.. and then you have riders like Plapp, Pidcock and Ethan Hayter who we don't really know what to make off yet.

Lets see him do a good stage race first. Seems more like a one-day racer to me for sure
 
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Agree. Also, lets take a look at Ineos' squad for the upcoming season in terms of stage racing. This is just off the top of my head: Egan, G, Arensman, C-Rod, Sivakov, Hart, Felipe Martinez.. and then you have riders like Plapp, Pidcock and Ethan Hayter who we don't really know what to make off yet.

Lets see him do a good stage race first. Seems more like a one-day racer to me for sure
Pidcock should basically just walk into the Kwiatkowski role, but get more chances to stagehunt because Ineos aren't strangling the Tour anymore and because he's British.
 
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Pidcock should basically just walk into the Kwiatkowski role, but get more chances to stagehunt because Ineos aren't strangling the Tour anymore and because he's British.
Hopefully. If youre not the favorite, it would be downright stupid to give up free stage wins in Tour de France because you want your whole team around the 3rd best rider. Literally doesn't make a diff, apart from commentators and pundits being able to say "X team really rode like a team this Tour for X rider, very impressive teamwork". Congrats, youre 3rd with no stage win, when you have all the talent in the world on your roster.

Anyways, since I don't know where to put this, is the forum also kinda bugging for you guys? The scrolling is kinda ***
 
I agree Pidcock didn't seem to improve on the road this year and he doesn't seem to be 3 week GT winner. Maybe Ineos can get his nutrition and stomach issues dialed in so he has the stamina, endurance and recovery to improve in the future. He has no problems with 60 minute CX and 90 minute XC races.
 
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I'm very surprised people even talk about Pidcock as a potential GT winner.
Why? I think at this point in his career almost all avenues are open to him.

But I think he would have to commit to going for GC the way it looked like Remco did this year. It’s probably not going to happen anytime soon though , especially if he’s defending his Olympic title

Even now, I think he’s capable of a top 5. He’s very similar to Alaphilippe in terms of physique and strengths, but possibly even a better climber.
This year is hopefully just a blip in terms of health issues…
 
Considering how people have also been talking about Cancellara, Sagan and Van der Poel as potential GT winners, I'm surprised at your surprise.
None of them won the Giro Baby.
And none of them finished top20 in their first Tour (or any other Tour).
He hasn't focused on stage racing since turning pro (and might never focus on it for what I know) but why competely negating his GC potential? I don't get it.
 
None of them won the Giro Baby.
And none of them finished top20 in their first Tour (or any other Tour).
He hasn't focused on stage racing since turning pro (and might never focus on it for what I know) but why competely negating his GC potential? I don't get it.
I certainly think he has a better chance than the three I mentioned and don't really see why it would be off the table, either.
 

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