Tom 'Pidders' Pidcock

[ice&fire]

2 years ago, Roglic would beat him if not for team politics IMO.

They were very close to each other when they unleashed themselves in Pico del Buitre and Angliru. Roglic would beat Vinge because of the ITT only, not the climbs

 

[Charlyghoul]

So now we now Ineos only blocked his progression?
Pogacar and Vingegaard can only be thankful that he wasn't signed by a proper team 5 years ago.

Remco fans should be happy that he didn't sign for Ineos. Otherwise he would regress to Carlos Rodriguez or something.

Absolutely, there must have been something wrong at Ineos.
Of course, they should be happy he’s been a part time road rider up until now. Not anymore though, Pidcock is exceeding even my grand tour predictions at the moment.
I can see a top 4 tdf next year looking something like this :

Pogacar
Vinge at 3mins 20 secs
Pidcock at 4mins 55 secs
Remco at 5 mins 30 secs

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I was surprised and impressed today. Being stronger than everyone bar Vingegaard and Almeida is one thing, but putting them in difficulty as well is another. It's a shame for him that he couldn't fight for the victory today, because there's still no way of knowing whether he will get closer to a stage win during the rest of the race. I still expect him to lose time on Angliru and/or Morredero, but 3rd place is definitely still in play.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I can't comment in the stage thread so decided to write here.

Weird finish of the stage, couldn't they just put the finish line 3 km from the old one and inform the riders? It's a pity there's no winner. Great climb by Pidcock on Pike: I actually expected him to be really strong there but not to drop Vingo on such gradients, wow. They did gain time over the rest (Almeida included). Can Pidcock keep this level for the whole race? Considering what happened in the race so far even a strong performance on Angliru won't be surprising anymore.

 

[Charlyghoul]

I can't comment in the stage thread so decided to write here.

Weird finish of the stage, couldn't they just put the finish line 3 km from the old one and inform the riders? It's a pity there's no winner. Great climb by Pidcock on Pike: I actually expected him to be really strong there but not to drop Vingo on such gradients, wow. They did gain time over the rest (Almeida included). Can Pidcock keep this level for the whole race? Considering what happened in the race so far even a strong performance on Angliru won't be surprising anymore.

I expect to see him soar like a prime Roberto Heras, fuelled on rage from today. Dancing away from everyone with Vingegaard hanging on for grim death.
He turns and winks at Jonas, winks at the camera for Brailsford and the forum doubters and powers his way to the win

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I expect to see him soar like a prime Roberto Heras, fuelled on rage from today. Dancing away from everyone with Vingegaard hanging on for grim death.
He turns and winks at Jonas, winks at the camera for Brailsford and the forum doubters and powers his way to the win

Pidcock flying away on Angliru would be hilarious considering his stage-racing pedigree
I'm still expecting Vingo to win there but Pidcock is a serious podium contender for sure.

 

[Red Rick]

I can't comment in the stage thread so decided to write here.

Weird finish of the stage, couldn't they just put the finish line 3 km from the old one and inform the riders? It's a pity there's no winner. Great climb by Pidcock on Pike: I actually expected him to be really strong there but not to drop Vingo on such gradients, wow. They did gain time over the rest (Almeida included). Can Pidcock keep this level for the whole race? Considering what happened in the race so far even a strong performance on Angliru won't be surprising anymore.

Angliru is pretty similar to a certain other climb he did very well at before.

Another big thing is it was a hard pace all day today, which shouldn't suit him at all.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Angliru is pretty similar to a certain other climb he did very well at before.

Another big thing is it was a hard pace all day today, which shouldn't suit him at all.

Pidcock being a flyweight guy always made me think he should be a good climber but it didn't work at all for a long time. And now this transformation is happening...

 

[Charlyghoul]

I think there could be something in his leaving sky. I reckon he’s proving his point to the doubters. But we’ll see what the rest of the race brings

 

[Netserk]

It's great to see him thrive like this, a really positive surprise in the race so far. I hope he will prove me wrong, but I still think the podium will be hard with the bigger climbs to come.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It's great to see him thrive like this, a really positive surprise in the race so far. I hope he will prove me wrong, but I still think the podium will be hard with the bigger climbs to come.

He showed he has the engine for sustained w/kg. To me the bigger question is not his performance on longer climbs but his 3-week consistency/recovery (he's never been a GT rider).

 

[Charlyghoul]

He showed he has the engine for sustained w/kg. To me the bigger question is not his performance on longer climbs but his 3-week consistency/recovery (he's never been a GT rider).

Pidcock is the new and improved Nibali

 

[Valv.Piti]

Absolutely, there must have been something wrong at Ineos.
Of course, they should be happy he’s been a part time road rider up until now. Not anymore though, Pidcock is exceeding even my grand tour predictions at the moment.
I can see a top 4 tdf next year looking something like this :

Pogacar
Vinge at 3mins 20 secs
Pidcock at 4mins 55 secs
Remco at 5 mins 30 secs

Pidcock 5 minutes down on prime Teddy in Tour de France?

Yeah, 15 minutes

 

[Charlyghoul]

Pidcock 5 minutes down on prime Teddy in Tour de France?

Yeah, 15 minutes

Pog is simmering down, Pidcock is just catching fire.
War Pidcock.
Seriously if he continues riding like this he’ll be in that mix, he yearns for that battle

 

[Valv.Piti]

Pog is simmering down, Pidcock is just catching fire.
War Pidcock.
Seriously if he continues riding like this he’ll be in that mix, he yearns for that battle

XDD

 

[Rou]

Pidcock 5 minutes down on prime Teddy in Tour de France?

Yeah, 15 minutes

Nothing in nature remains static. Cycling is no exception. Last year Lipowitz finished 7th in La Vuelta. This year he was on the podium in the Tour.
Pogacar will not be the best forever. That's a fact. Nobody can predict what will happen next year.

 

[Red Rick]

XDD

Tadej Pogacar was wise to avoid Pidcock this Vuelta.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Tadej Pogacar was wise to avoid Pidcock this Vuelta.

Would’ve finished the poor bloke off

 

[Rou]

Tadej Pogacar was wise to avoid Pidcock this Vuelta.

Some people don't take me seriously but I'm convinced when I say that Pogacar did a wise move by skipping the Vuelta.
Whether the reason is Pidcock or not is a different topic.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Nothing in nature remains static. Cycling is no exception. Last year Lipowitz finished 7th in La Vuelta. This year he was on the podium in the Tour.
Pogacar will not be the best forever. That's a fact. Nobody can predict what will happen next year.

Pidcock has historically never shown anything on proper, hard mountain stages with lots of elevation gain. There has been none this Vuelta, and he has done well on weak unipuertos and hard hilly parcours. There wont be any of such stages the remainder of the race, although the remaining MTFs are considerably harder than, say, stage 6 and 7, so that should tell us a bit more about his high mountain climbing and not least recovery.

Lets see him finish this Vuelta first. If he keeps this up, its not totally unrealistic to grab a stage and top-5 the Tour. But its totally unserious to predict a podium finish in TdF based on the performances we have seen so far. Thats not proper analysis if you do, and its not a real argument just to state the totally obvious that nothing is static.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Some people don't take me seriously but I'm convinced when I say that Pogacar did a wise move by skipping the Vuelta.
Whether the reason is Pidcock or not is a different topic.

I take you seriously
I wasn’t taken seriously with my Pidcock predictions
I was labelled a troll, a dullard, witless, stupid.
Now they call me a savant

 

[Red Rick]

Pidcock has historically never shown anything on proper, hard mountain stages with lots of elevation gain. There has been none this Vuelta, and he has done well on weak unipuertos and hard hilly parcours. There wont be any of such stages the remainder of the race, although the remaining MTFs are considerably harder than, say, stage 6 and 7, so that should tell us a bit more about his high mountain climbing and not least recovery.

Lets see him finish this Vuelta first. If he keeps this up, its not totally unrealistic to grab a stage and top-5 the Tour. But its totally unserious to predict a podium finish in TdF based on the performances we have seen so far.

Won the stage with the most elevation gain in the 2022 Tour.

 

[Escarabajo]

Pidcock has historically never shown anything on proper, hard mountain stages with lots of elevation gain. There has been none this Vuelta, and he has done well on weak unipuertos and hard hilly parcours. There wont be any of such stages the remainder of the race, although the remaining MTFs are considerably harder than, say, stage 6 and 7, so that should tell us a bit more about his high mountain climbing and not least recovery.

Lets see him finish this Vuelta first. If he keeps this up, its not totally unrealistic to grab a stage and top-5 the Tour. But its totally unserious to predict a podium finish in TdF based on the performances we have seen so far. Thats not proper analysis if you do, and its not a real argument just to state the totally obvious that nothing is static.

I agree with you, but this could be the first time!
He looks very strong.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Won the stage with the most elevation gain in the 2022 Tour.

And he humiliated a 4 time Tour winner in the process. He's just been biding his time since then for another chance to do so to come along, so that is indeed the real reason Pogačar isn't riding the Vuelta.

 

[Charlyghoul]

He’s the best descender and bike handler in the peloton.
His Bahamontes - esque climbing ability is now in full display.
Just needs to recapture that junior worlds tt form he’s gonna be damn near unbeatable