Tony Martin is VERY good.

[BigBoat]

I'd call him a Grand Tour contender at this point.... What does the forum think?

 

[jonjungel]

I'd call him a Grand Tour contender at this point.... What does the forum think?

That has to be one with a lot of ITT and no steep mountains. On a mountaintop finish like Alpe d'Huez or Joux Plane similar, he will lose too much time.
I'm impressed by him also. But that is mostly as a time-trialist.

 

[il_fiammingo]

That has to be one with a lot of ITT and no steep mountains. On a mountaintop finish like Alpe d'Huez or Joux Plane similar, he will lose too much time.
I'm impressed by him also. But that is mostly as a time-trialist.

I agree; maybe a next Jens Voigt?

 

[ElChingon]

Lets rehash this thread when he does something in the realm of qualifying as a Tour/GC hopeful. That would be placing or at least top 10 at a GT.

 

[Jasper]

I agree; maybe a next Jens Voigt?

They both like to grind that big gear yeah. And they're both German

 

[BigBoat]

That has to be one with a lot of ITT and no steep mountains. On a mountaintop finish like Alpe d'Huez or Joux Plane similar, he will lose too much time.
I'm impressed by him also. But that is mostly as a time-trialist.

It'll be interesting to see.

They both like to grind that big gear yeah. And they're both German

Oh he's waay better than Jens though.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I clocked the date, BB. Very prescient of you, good shout!

We agree about something?

 

[Anonymous]

Two Tony Martin threads one on top of the other. One from days ago and one started today. Wow, who woulda' thought we needed two?

 

[Amsterhammer]

Two Tony Martin threads one on top of the other. One from days ago and one started today. Wow, who woulda' thought we needed two?

No - I brought up the other one, which I found on page 6. BB then obviously remembered that he had written about TM way back in March, and brought his own topic back up. A circumstantial ****-up for which no one can be blamed.

 

[Bala Verde]

Two Tony Martin threads one on top of the other. One from days ago and one started today. Wow, who woulda' thought we needed two?

Because Tony is REAL good. And the fact that he has two pelotas, so he deserves two threads.

 

[Anonymous]

No - I brought up the other one, which I found on page 6. BB then obviously remembered that he had written about TM way back in March, and brought his own topic back up. A circumstantial ****-up for which no one can be blamed.

Fair enough.

 

[Anonymous]

Because Tony is REAL good. And the fact that he has two pelotas, so he deserves two threads.

Yea, I mean he is in the white jersey and all and considering Lance gets his own jersey on Versus I think Tony deserves two threads on cyclingnews forums.

 

[Bagster]

I'd call him a Grand Tour contender at this point.... What does the forum think?

I think that he is really only as good as a Cat 5 club racer. He is obviously on some form of as yet undiscovered EPO or transfusing with the hyper oxygenated blood of cryogenically frozen WW2 stormtroopers. I cannot accept that some guys are actually better than others or that some may be actually really gifted and quite a bit better than their peers. Therefore it must be the 'D' thing.

Damn I'm starting to suffer from Bigboatitis!!!!

 

[Delicato]

It is interesting that a few years ago he wasn't a good Ttist at all-so one can imagine that he also can have a Level Up in the mountains.

 

[Amsterhammer]

Can I suggest that we continue with this topic as it was the original?

The boy will be wearing the white much more firmly after today. I will be hoping that he gets at least one day in the yellow too - and I don't want to know what he might be taking.

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

- and I don't want to know what he might be taking.

The same as the rest on the Columbia-HTC squad are taking.

 

[Greg Johnson]

Keep it clean boys. I'd hate to have to start banning people for heading down this line of conversation in the professional road racing forum.

Cheers
Greg Johnson

 

[blackcat]

They both like to grind that big gear yeah. And they're both German

I could add a third factor

 

[blackcat]

Keep it clean boys. I'd hate to have to start banning people for heading down this line of conversation in the professional road racing forum.

Cheers
Greg Johnson

we will make you a deal Greg, we stop talking like it, when the UCI sanctions 'em.

 

[blackcat]

It is interesting that a few years ago he wasn't a good Ttist at all-so one can imagine that he also can have a Level Up in the mountains.

don't know where you got that. But he is 6'2" or 6'3" and about 78kgs. He will always be a good tt'er.

His results speak for themselves. He won the u19 German championships. And the Germans have always excelled at this discipline. Two years later he won the u23 German championship, and beat Gretsch and others to win that title. Never been a mug.

Was a stagiare on Gerolsteiner in 2005.

But he barely could beat Walker in the GC in 2005 Thuringen Rundfahrt, indeed he only won because Walker got a mechanical on the final stage. He was not timetrialling better than Walker then.

 

[blackcat]

I agree; maybe a next Jens Voigt?

Voigt bloomed late, like Leipheimer. Take a guess.

 

[Columbiafan]

don't know where you got that. But he is 6'2" or 6'3" and about 78kgs. He will always be a good tt'er.

His results speak for themselves. He won the u19 German championships. And the Germans have always excelled at this discipline. Two years later he won the u23 German championship, and beat Gretsch and others to win that title. Never been a mug.

Was a stagiare on Gerolsteiner in 2005.

But he barely could beat Walker in the GC in 2005 Thuringen Rundfahrt, indeed he only won because Walker got a mechanical on the final stage. He was not timetrialling better than Walker then.

Hen can't win every race... But in 2005 there was a mountain time trial in the Regio tour, there he won and beat guys like Maxim Monfort


1 Tony Martin (Ger) Gerolsteiner 33.43
2 Maxime Monfort (Bel) Landbouwkrediet-Colnago 0.09
3 Matthias Russ (Ger) Gerolsteiner 0.21
4 Nico Sijmens (Bel) Landbouwkrediet-Colnago 0.43
5 Björn Papstein (Ger) Team Lamonta 0.44
6 Rinaldo Nocentini (Ita) Acqua & Sapone-Adria Mobil 1.02
7 Holger Sievers (Ger) Team Lamonta 1.05
8 Gerhard Trampusch (Aut) Akud Arnolds Sicherheit 1.08
9 Sergey Yakovlev (Kaz) T-Mobile Team 1.23
10 Moises Aldape C. (Mex) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 1.28
11 Sergiy Matveyev (Ukr) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare 1.31
12 Rolf Aldag (Ger) T-Mobile Team 1.36
13 Torsten Hiekmann (Ger) T-Mobile Team 1.49
14 Sergey Lagutin (Uzb) Landbouwkrediet-Colnago 1.51
15 Benjamin Levecot (Fra) R.A.G.T. Semences 2.01
16 Cristian Gasperoni (Ita) Naturino-Sapore di Mare 2.12
17 Torsten Schmidt (Ger) Gerolsteiner 2.13
18 Volker Ordowski (Ger) Gerolsteiner 2.14
19 Nacor Burgos (Spa) Relax Fuenlabrada 2.18
20 Bert De Waele (Bel) Landbouwkrediet-Colnago 2.22
21 Alessandro Bertuola (Ita) Naturino-Sapore di Mare 2.24
22 Bernhard Kohl (Aut) T-Mobile Team
23 Elnathan Heizmann (Ger) Team Comnet-Senges 2.32
24 Jose Mario Almagro (Spa) Relax Fuenlabrada 2.34
25 Daniel Moreno (Spa) Relax Fuenlabrada 2.36


Impressive

 

[Bala Verde]

NYT agrees on Tony Martin

New York Times and Diesel Tony

 

[Amsterhammer]

NYT agrees on Tony Martin

New York Times and Diesel Tony

Good find, thanks for posting.

 

[mambo#5]

I thought Tony Martin was dead. wiki shows him to be 96 years old.