Tony the Pony is now a racehorse?

[spanky wanderlust]

did martin perform above what was expected of him considering the course, weather, his progress this year etc ?

was cancellara performing at/above/below his best form from the past winning years ?

seeing the power files for both riders could go a long way.

w/o them the intuitive answer is as sad as the results of just finished vuelta.

fwiw, martin was right where i thought he would be. canc was not as good as i had hoped. tony's performance was dominant. but until we see the power numbers, like you say, we can't know if it was because tony was so great or because canc was a little off.

what is immediatley obvious is that wiggins was the big surprise, whatever the numbers are. great ride by him for sure.

 

[spanky wanderlust]

If I were to put a list of the people in the péloton I think are doping, Martin wouldn't be in the top 50.

But this is pure fallacy. High Road sports is the continuation of the very shady T-Mobile, I hardly think they bear the unmistakable stench of clean cycling.

But if that's not enough for you, he was a stagiare at Gerolsteiner.

really? not in the top 50. even after beating cancellara, and dominantly so. and the two facts you mentioned. and all the other stuff?

the only thing that really distinguishes him from jan is that jan was awesome!

 

[usedtobefast]

he seems to have progressed pretty naturally. not very exiting, but effective.

 

[Midnightfright]

Wait a minute Tony was never a "pony" he has always been a high quality time-trialist, I'm not saying he isn't doped just not that this performance is out of the ordinary for this year. He is the new chief when in it comes to TTs.

 

[sniper]

The caricatural proportions of his head (on top of such small shoulders) suggests he's taking HGH for breakfast. But I'm just speculating here.

 

[euanli]

what is immediatley obvious is that wiggins was the big surprise, whatever the numbers are. great ride by him for sure.

Was he really though? Look at his performances against Martin this year and he has consistently been a place or two behind Martin. Cancellara hasn't beaten him in a TT this year. If anything you'd expect bronze or silver for Wiggins.

But regarding Martin, it is a very stead progress from where he was last year.

 

[nobilis]

It's Cancellara who underperformed. In normal conditions, he would put at least 1min30 to Wiggins.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Cancellara uses an electric motor. Wiggins has a funny shaped head. Tony beats them both. Germany finally has its replacement for Ullrich?

This thread fails so bad. Some people are just so sad that they feel the need to bring others down when they acheive. I feel sorry for you that you need to make this thread.

 

[Willy_Voet]

Your intelligence (reference to your self-fluffing sig line) and humor fails you. Go post another 10,000 times somewhere else.

 

[Night Rider]

Cancellara uses an electric motor. Wiggins has a funny shaped head. Tony beats them both. Germany finally has its replacement for Ullrich?

Cancellara has gone soft being around the Schleckette's for too long.
Wiggins? Hardly competition for Martin.

 

[usedtobefast]

Cancellara has gone soft being around the Schleckette's for too long.
Wiggins? Hardly competition for Martin.

you could be right about Cancellara. second place is "ok" now.

 

[Benotti69]

Your intelligence (reference to your self-fluffing sig line) and humor fails you. Go post another 10,000 times somewhere else.

She posted another 4000 times since you posted that

 

[spalco]

auscyclefan94 is a woman? I always assumed he's a guy.

 

[happychappy]

Wiggins? Hardly competition for Martin.

No competition, I agree. Wiggins puts 30 minutes into the Tonester when it goes uphill.

 

[Benotti69]

auscyclefan94 is a woman? I always assumed he's a guy.

posts like a girl

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

posts like a girl

The Andy Schleck of posting?

 

[Cloxxki]

No competition, I agree. Wiggins puts 30 minutes into the Tonester when it goes uphill.

We used to say that of some TT'ers compared to Wiggins also...

 

[Benotti69]

The Andy Schleck of posting?

i was thinking more something like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

i was thinking more something like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khmvkroeowc

leave cadel alone.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Why are you guys acting like Tonys Performance was as suprise. He has been a TT powerhouse since his early Junior years and has constantly improved during his pro career from 08-11. This isn't a performance that is coming out of nowhere. The only thing which was suprisisng is the fact that Tony didn't have much problems with the many bends and corners. But that just shows that he improved a little on his bike handling skills.

 

[Bike Boy]

wasn't it JV who said that bio passport decreased the achievable enhanced performance to about 3.5 %? He wouldn't be far off the medals anyway. Bearing in mind that he's already got 2 bronze medals I think this is just a case of a big motor with a natural progression.

And also, back then he was a stargiaire at Gerolsteiner, he kind of embarrassed the pro peloton, which supports the idea that he's clean, the only other logical option left is that he's been dirty all along. I certainly hope not.