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flicker said:
USA

Armstrong
Lemond
Landis
Hamilton
tinker Juarez
Andy Hamstead
George Mount
Gary Fischer
The Barb
Mike Neel


How could you not acknowledge John Tomac, who is the #3 greatest cyclist ever(after #1. Eddy Merckx, and #2. Nicolas Vouilloz) on my list?

Tinker has had phenomenal longevity, and is also a former BMX champ, definitely worth acknowledging. I'm curious about your selection of Gary Fisher on the list, the Repak MTB races must be high on your list of criteria? But then why isn't Joe Breeze on your list?? He had the most Repak wins of all time(10, versus Fishers 4; although Fisher have the all time fastest time(a 4.22.14, versus Breeze's 4.24.07)). I know Fisher was a road racer, but I wasn't sure what he accomplished on the road, anyone know?

Here are the top 10 Americans:

1. John Tomac (National chamionships in BMX, Road, XC, and DH, World Champ in XC, 2X silver medal in DH)
2. Major Taylor
3. Lance Armstrong (if he wins another tour he could go to #2)
4. Greg Lemond
5. Brian Lopes (Still competing, and winning)
6. Myles Rockwell (World Champ DH, plus the fastest road bike descender ever)
7. Floyd Landis
8. Ned Overend
9. Tyler Hamilton
10. Mike King

I didn't include women on my list, but some of greats are Karen Armstrong, Missy Giove, Jaqcuie Phelan, Penny Davidson, Juliana Furtado, & Ruthie Matthes.
 
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How could you not acknowledge John Tomac, who is the #3 greatest cyclist ever(after #1. Eddy Merckx, and #2. Nicolas Vouilloz) on my list?

Tinker has had phenomenal longevity, and is also a former BMX champ, definitely worth acknowledging. I'm curious about your selection of Gary Fisher on the list, the Repak MTB races must be high on your list of criteria? But then why isn't Joe Breeze on your list?? He had the most Repak wins of all time(10, versus Fishers 4; although Fisher have the all time fastest time(a 4.22.14, versus Breeze's 4.24.07)). I know Fisher was a road racer, but I wasn't sure what he accomplished on the road, anyone know?

Here are the top 10 Americans:

1. John Tomac (National chamionships in BMX, Road, XC, and DH, World Champ in XC, 2X silver medal in DH)
2. Major Taylor
3. Lance Armstrong (if he wins another tour he could go to #2)
4. Greg Lemond
5. Brian Lopes (Still competing, and winning)
6. Myles Rockwell (World Champ DH, plus the fastest road bike descender ever)
7. Floyd Landis
8. Ned Overend
9. Tyler Hamilton
10. Mike King

I didn't include women on my list, but some of greats are Karen Armstrong, Missy Giove, Jaqcuie Phelan, Penny Davidson, Juliana Furtado, & Ruthie Matthes.


How can any list of top Americans not have Jock Boyer? I mean really...Brian Lopes? Ned Overend? But no Boyer...Can you say Joke!!
 
hayleyy said:
i only just started paying attention to cycling this year, and know not many people at all...

aussies:
1.Cadel Evans
2. Stuart O'Grady
3. Robbie McEwan
4. Matt Lloyd
5. Jack Bobrige

thats all i know.... and Jack bobrige probably isnt even known anywhere else....

Haha well everyone knows who he is now! :D Who says people can't see the future...

Evans could almost be considered on par with O'Grady now.
 
Aug 3, 2009
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TRDean said:
How can any list of top Americans not have Jock Boyer? I mean really...Brian Lopes? Ned Overend? But no Boyer...Can you say Joke!!

The only big races Boyer won were the Coors classic and a RAAM race. My criteria considers National Championships and World Championship results, along with Grand Tour participation, to be the most important in determining a riders "greatness." Boyer never faired so well in those races, his best TdF finish was a 12th. I will give the guy credit for being a groundbreaker, and he does show a bit of diversity in his results, having won RAAM. I can appreciate diversity, that's why Tomac is at the top of my list. But Boyer doesn't have a whole lot of quality diversity(wins), he's just people's sentimental favorite in here because he was a groundbreaker. Sorry, but that's not good enough to be considered one of the greatest. :(

Brian Lopes won a World Championship, and also won other National Championships. He was also a BMX champion before he raced mountain bikes. He also has won some big DH races, showing even more diversity. In fact, he recently won an Enduro DH race, and was one of the top American finishers at the recent Worlds DH race. He has an incredible race resume, no question he belongs on the list.

Ned Overend was also a World Champion, and was National Champion several times. He also has shown some diversity, in winning hill climb events, and in winning the Xterra championships a few years back. I think he also had some decent results on the road, though nothing big. And he and Tinker are in a class by themselves when it comes to longevity. Arguably, if not probably, the greatest American XC MTB racer ever, Ned Overend certainly belongs on the list.
 
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MrContador said:
Norway

1. Thor Hushovd
2. Jostein Wilmann
3. Knut Knudsen
4. Dag Otto Lauritzen
5. Atle Kvålsvoll
6. Dag Erik Pedersen
6. Edvald Boasson Hagen
7. Kurt Asle Arvesen
8. Jaanus Kuum
9. Atle Pedersen
10. Steffen Kjærgaard

Coming from the equal opportunity nation of Norway I'm more than a bit surprised that you didn't include Gunn Rita Dahle Flesjå on your list. I'd also have Knudsen above Wilmann any day.
 
Sep 29, 2009
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Canadian Cyclists

Not to many to choose from,

Steve Bauer
Michael Barry
Ryder Hesjedal
Dominique Rolston


anybody else??
 
Jun 16, 2009
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hayleyy said:
i only just started paying attention to cycling this year, and know not many people at all...

aussies:
1.Cadel Evans
2. Stuart O'Grady
3. Robbie McEwan
4. Matt Lloyd
5. Jack Bobrige

thats all i know.... and Jack bobrige probably isnt even known anywhere else....

Matty Lloyd has only won 1 national championships and Jack Bobridge is only 21 so you can't put him 5th. brad Mcgee, Sir Hubert Opperman and phil Anderson (not in order) would have to fill out the top 6 and may be gerrans for 7th
 
Jun 16, 2009
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auscyclefan94 said:
Matty Lloyd has only won 1 national championships and Jack Bobridge is only 21 so you can't put him 5th. brad Mcgee, Sir Hubert Opperman and phil Anderson (not in order) would have to fill out the top 6 and may be gerrans for 7th

1950's legends Hoobin, Sir Reg Patterson and Russel Mockbridge all deserve honourable mentions at the very least.

It hard to believe only fifteen years ago a TdF start would have put a rider in contention for the Australian list, now TdF stage winners, gold medalists and world champions need to pad out their resume to make it.
 
beroepsrenner said:
Gary Gilmour???? I think you mean Graeme Gilmore or maybe his son Mat. Or maybe Gary Wiggins, father of the guy the poms are claiming just because he has one of their passports. Don Alan would have to be included in this company as well.

also keith "ko" oliver one of australias best ever six day riders....and a gentleman aswell....
 
Sep 26, 2009
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Hello,
I am a big fan of that racing .well my favorite players are,

George Mount
Matt Lloyd
Thor Hushovd
Jostein Wilmann
Knut Knudsen
 
Mar 18, 2009
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ProTour said:
The only big races Boyer won were the Coors classic and a RAAM race. My criteria considers National Championships and World Championship results, along with Grand Tour participation, to be the most important in determining a riders "greatness." Boyer never faired so well in those races, his best TdF finish was a 12th. I will give the guy credit for being a groundbreaker, and he does show a bit of diversity in his results, having won RAAM. I can appreciate diversity, that's why Tomac is at the top of my list. But Boyer doesn't have a whole lot of quality diversity(wins), he's just people's sentimental favorite in here because he was a groundbreaker. Sorry, but that's not good enough to be considered one of the greatest. :(

Brian Lopes won a World Championship, and also won other National Championships. He was also a BMX champion before he raced mountain bikes. He also has won some big DH races, showing even more diversity. In fact, he recently won an Enduro DH race, and was one of the top American finishers at the recent Worlds DH race. He has an incredible race resume, no question he belongs on the list.

Ned Overend was also a World Champion, and was National Champion several times. He also has shown some diversity, in winning hill climb events, and in winning the Xterra championships a few years back. I think he also had some decent results on the road, though nothing big. And he and Tinker are in a class by themselves when it comes to longevity. Arguably, if not probably, the greatest American XC MTB racer ever, Ned Overend certainly belongs on the list.

I respectfully disagree with your "ranking" of races. Boyer won the Coors classic...and RAAM...and was a solid TdF racer. World championships are nice...but not the end all be all of cycling. Also, you seriously under respect the fact of being the first to be a big time road racer in Europe. He is the one that paved the way. No American team for him to ride for...had to learn French, Dutch...just to survive.

You have quite a bias in your rankings...I mean John Tomac as number one? Over LA and Lemond? It is hard to take that ranking seriously.
 
May 23, 2009
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What about Dominic Rollin?



bikenrunnwt said:
Canada:

1) Steve Bauer
2) Micheal Barry
3) Ryder Hesjedal
4) Gord Fraser
5) Svein Tuft
6) Alex Stieda
7) Brian Walton
8) Curt Harnett (Track)
9) Christian Meier (Watch out for him when he gets some more Euro experience in!)
10) Alison Sydor (Best Canadian female cyclist on road and mtb!)
 
Aug 3, 2009
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TRDean said:
I respectfully disagree with your "ranking" of races. Boyer won the Coors classic...and RAAM...and was a solid TdF racer.
Those are a couple of good domestic results, but it takes a lot more than that and being a "solid TdF racer" to be considered one of the top 10 American cyclists of all time.

TRDean said:
World championships are nice...but not the end all be all of cycling.
Actually, in mountainbike racing, the World Championships are the end all be all, since they don't have anything like the grand tours they have in road racing. It is the one race that every mountainbike racer dreams about winning, and if you do it establishes you as the champion of your discipline.

TRDean said:
Also, you seriously under respect the fact of being the first to be a big time road racer in Europe. He is the one that paved the way. No American team for him to ride for...had to learn French, Dutch...just to survive.
I respect him for all of those things, I just don't see how that establishes him as one of the top 10 cyclists of all time. John Tomac was one of the first mountain bikers, if not the first, to cross over from BMX racing, but that's no reason to consider him one of the greatest American cyclists of all time. He is great because he won several World and American Championships against strong competition, not because he was a groundbreaker. I don't doubt that Boyer was one of the strongest American road racers of his time, but that isn't saying much considering that America wasn't very competitive on the world stage at that time.




TRDean said:
You have quite a bias in your rankings...I mean John Tomac as number one? Over LA and Lemond? It is hard to take that ranking seriously.
I don't think there is any bias in ranking Tomac #1, considering the number of championships he won, and the diversity he showed during his racing career; dominating at several different disciplines, some simultaneously. No other cyclist in world history has show the diversity he has, he is clearly the greatest American mountainbike racer ever, he never doped, and he was and is a great sportsman and advocate for the sport.

Maybe you don't understand that America has had a much more successful history in mountainbike racing than it has been in road racing, that is why there are deservedly more mountainbikers on my top 10 list. Here is Tomac's impressive racing resume', with some of his own comments about it:




JOHN TOMAC'S RACING RESUME

1976-1985 BMX Racer:

Raced BMX from age 7-17. Raced locally in Michigan and in the Midwest winning State and Regional Championships. Raced nationally from age 11 through 17. At the age of 16 won a national championship in BMX. Raced for the Factory Mongoose team from age 15 to16.

1985 BMX PRO:

Turned Pro at BMX at age 17 and raced only one year in the pro ranks.

1986 MT BIKER:

Moved from Michigan to Southern Cal and started riding and racing mountain bikes. Had some factory support from Mongoose with the mountain bike racing. Won my first major mountain bike race in the fall of 86 (The Ross Fat Tire Stage Race, Massachusetts).


1986,87,88,89.

Rode for Factory Mongoose as mountain Bike racer. I was racing all mountain bike events at this time (hillclimb, downhill, cross-country and dual slalom). These were the early years of major mountain bike racing. I also started riding and racing Road Cycling events for training, became very competitive quite early and won national titles in road racing in 88 and 89. I rode for the Sunkyong and Celestial Seasonings road teams in 88 and 89.

86 Ross Stage Race Winner
86 L.A. Coliseum Supercross Mt Bike Exhibition Race Winner
87 Mountain Bike Action Super Prestige Series Winner
87 (3) National x-country race wins.
87 Ross Stage Race Winner
88 Overall Norba World Champion
88 Overall Norba National X-Country National Champion
88 Norba Dual Slalom World Champion
88 Tour of the Rockies Stage Race Winner
88 U.S.C.F National Criterium Champion (Road Cycling)
89 Overall Norba World Champion
89 Norba Downhill World Champion
89 European X-country World Champion
89 U.S.C.F National Team Time Trial Champion (Road Cycling)
89 German National X-Country Championship Race Winner

1990,91.


In 1990 I continued racing mountain Bikes as a Pro but also signed a contract with the 7-11 professional road cycling team. During this time I lived in Belgium for most of the race season and raced both mountain Bikes and Road Race events. I would travel back and forth from the U.S. to Europe and race Norba National events, Major U.S. Road events, World Cup mountain Bike events in Europe and the U.S., and also major road racing events in Europe. I was racing around 100-120 events a year, Major road events included Spring Classics such as: Tour of Flanders and Paris-Roubaix, I also rode the Tour of Italy in 1990. In 1991 I rode for the Motorola professional road team doing a very similar schedule as 1990. On the mountain bike in 1990 I was between good contracts so I raced for Yeti and Tioga while on the dirt. In 1991 I signed a good deal with Raleigh to ride for them on the dirt and I won them a World Championship and World Cup title that year.

90 World Championship x-country 6th place
90 World Championship downhill 4th place
90 2 time x-country and downhill national race event winner.
90 Rode the Tour of Italy, Tour of Flanders, Paris Roubaix and finished Top 20 in the Spring Classic (Ghent-Wevelgem). (Road events)
91 UCI World x-country Champion
91 UCI World downhill Championship 2nd Place
91 UCI World Cup x-country Champion
91 Norba National downhill Champion
91 World Cup race winner, France and Germany
91 Norba National race winner, Colorado and Vermont
91 Italian Cup Race Winner

1992-1996.

In 1992 I decided to once again focus completely on mountain Bike racing and stopped racing as a pro on the road. I rode from 1992 through most of the 94 season for Raleigh but at the end of the 94 season, I switched teams and started to ride for Giant. This era from 1990-1996 was boom time for mountain bike racing. The events were huge in the US and in Europe.

92 UCI World Cup Overall x-country 2nd Place
92 World Cup x-country race winner, Belgium and Switzerland
92 UCI World Championship downhill 5th Place
92 Australian National Downhill Championship race Winner
93 UCI World Cup Overall x-country 2nd Place
93 UCI World Cup Overall downhill 2nd Place
93 Norba National x-country series Overall 2nd Place
93 World Cup Downhill event Winner, Canada
93 Norba National event Winner, Indiana and Michigan
94 Norba National Downhill Champion
94 Norba National Race event winner, Washington, Michigan and Georgia
94 World Cup x-country race winner, Spain.
94 Sea Otter Stage Race Champion
94 Cactus Cup Champion
95 Norba National downhill series overall, 4th Place
95 Cactus Cup Dirt Criterium Stage Winner
95 Cactus Cup Street Criterium Stage Winner
95 Hawaiian Mountain Tour downhill stage Winner
95 Roost Master Race Winner
95 Norba National downhill race event Winner, Colorado
96 Norba National x-country series Champion
96 Norba National event Winner, Vermont and Georgia
96 World Cup downhill event Winner, Hawaii
96 Roost Master Race Winner
96 Olympic Qualification Race Winner, Georgia

In 1997 I chose to retire from X-country racing and I then focused completely and downhill events. I stuck with this discipline for the rest of my career from 1997-2000.

1997 was good year for me on the Giant bikes with a national championship title win and a silver medal at the world championship. In both 98 and 99 I was sidelined for much of these two seasons with broken bone injuries (collar-bone and wrist ). These injuries seemed to take the motivation and speed out of my game. I then rode 2000 as the final season of my career. In 1998 I founded the TOMAC bicycle company with a long time friend and began producing and selling Tomac mountain Bikes. I raced, managed the race team and assisted with the Tomac mountain bike business from 1998-2000.

97 Norba National downhill series Champion
97 UCI World Championship downhill 2nd Place
97 UCI World Cup downhill series, 5th Place
97 Norba National downhill race event Winner, Vermont
97 World Cup Final downhill race event Winner, Austria
97 Norba National dual slalom race event Winner, Washington
98 Winter X games Snow Mt Biking , Bronze Medal
98 Sidelined with broken collar bone
99 Sidelined with broken wrist
2000 The farewell tour
2001 Loretta Lynn Amateur AMA National Motocross Champion (Vet Intermediate)

JOHN TOMAC'S CAREER BRAGGING RIGHTS

6 Time World Champion
4 Time Norba World Champion
1 European World Title
1 UCI World Title

10 Time National Champion
5 Norba national titles
3 downhill, 2 x-country
2 National Road Race titles
1 BMX National title

1 World Cup Championship

3 World Cup Final Event Wins

8 World Cup Event Wins

14 Norba National Event Wins

Mt. Bike Hall of Fame Member
U.S. Bicycling Hall of Fame Member
1991 Velo News Mt Biker of the Year
1994 Korbel Lifetime Achievement Award
1996 Mt. Bike Action Rider of the Year
1997 Norba Sportsmen of the Year
1997 Mt. Bike Magazine Rider of the Year
 
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ProTour said:
Here is Tomac's impressive racing resume', with some of his own comments about it:




JOHN TOMAC'S RACING RESUME

1976-1985 BMX Racer:

Raced BMX from age 7-17. Raced locally in Michigan and in the Midwest winning State and Regional Championships. Raced nationally from age 11 through 17. At the age of 16 won a national championship in BMX. Raced for the Factory Mongoose team from age 15 to16.

1985 BMX PRO:

Turned Pro at BMX at age 17 and raced only one year in the pro ranks.

1986 MT BIKER:

Moved from Michigan to Southern Cal and started riding and racing mountain bikes. Had some factory support from Mongoose with the mountain bike racing. Won my first major mountain bike race in the fall of 86 (The Ross Fat Tire Stage Race, Massachusetts).


1986,87,88,89.

Rode for Factory Mongoose as mountain Bike racer. I was racing all mountain bike events at this time (hillclimb, downhill, cross-country and dual slalom). These were the early years of major mountain bike racing. I also started riding and racing Road Cycling events for training, became very competitive quite early and won national titles in road racing in 88 and 89. I rode for the Sunkyong and Celestial Seasonings road teams in 88 and 89.

86 Ross Stage Race Winner
86 L.A. Coliseum Supercross Mt Bike Exhibition Race Winner
87 Mountain Bike Action Super Prestige Series Winner
87 (3) National x-country race wins.
87 Ross Stage Race Winner
88 Overall Norba World Champion
88 Overall Norba National X-Country National Champion
88 Norba Dual Slalom World Champion
88 Tour of the Rockies Stage Race Winner
88 U.S.C.F National Criterium Champion (Road Cycling)
89 Overall Norba World Champion
89 Norba Downhill World Champion
89 European X-country World Champion
89 U.S.C.F National Team Time Trial Champion (Road Cycling)
89 German National X-Country Championship Race Winner

1990,91.


In 1990 I continued racing mountain Bikes as a Pro but also signed a contract with the 7-11 professional road cycling team. During this time I lived in Belgium for most of the race season and raced both mountain Bikes and Road Race events. I would travel back and forth from the U.S. to Europe and race Norba National events, Major U.S. Road events, World Cup mountain Bike events in Europe and the U.S., and also major road racing events in Europe. I was racing around 100-120 events a year, Major road events included Spring Classics such as: Tour of Flanders and Paris-Roubaix, I also rode the Tour of Italy in 1990. In 1991 I rode for the Motorola professional road team doing a very similar schedule as 1990. On the mountain bike in 1990 I was between good contracts so I raced for Yeti and Tioga while on the dirt. In 1991 I signed a good deal with Raleigh to ride for them on the dirt and I won them a World Championship and World Cup title that year.

90 World Championship x-country 6th place
90 World Championship downhill 4th place
90 2 time x-country and downhill national race event winner.
90 Rode the Tour of Italy, Tour of Flanders, Paris Roubaix and finished Top 20 in the Spring Classic (Ghent-Wevelgem). (Road events)
91 UCI World x-country Champion
91 UCI World downhill Championship 2nd Place
91 UCI World Cup x-country Champion
91 Norba National downhill Champion
91 World Cup race winner, France and Germany
91 Norba National race winner, Colorado and Vermont
91 Italian Cup Race Winner

1992-1996.

In 1992 I decided to once again focus completely on mountain Bike racing and stopped racing as a pro on the road. I rode from 1992 through most of the 94 season for Raleigh but at the end of the 94 season, I switched teams and started to ride for Giant. This era from 1990-1996 was boom time for mountain bike racing. The events were huge in the US and in Europe.

92 UCI World Cup Overall x-country 2nd Place
92 World Cup x-country race winner, Belgium and Switzerland
92 UCI World Championship downhill 5th Place
92 Australian National Downhill Championship race Winner
93 UCI World Cup Overall x-country 2nd Place
93 UCI World Cup Overall downhill 2nd Place
93 Norba National x-country series Overall 2nd Place
93 World Cup Downhill event Winner, Canada
93 Norba National event Winner, Indiana and Michigan
94 Norba National Downhill Champion
94 Norba National Race event winner, Washington, Michigan and Georgia
94 World Cup x-country race winner, Spain.
94 Sea Otter Stage Race Champion
94 Cactus Cup Champion
95 Norba National downhill series overall, 4th Place
95 Cactus Cup Dirt Criterium Stage Winner
95 Cactus Cup Street Criterium Stage Winner
95 Hawaiian Mountain Tour downhill stage Winner
95 Roost Master Race Winner
95 Norba National downhill race event Winner, Colorado
96 Norba National x-country series Champion
96 Norba National event Winner, Vermont and Georgia
96 World Cup downhill event Winner, Hawaii
96 Roost Master Race Winner
96 Olympic Qualification Race Winner, Georgia

In 1997 I chose to retire from X-country racing and I then focused completely and downhill events. I stuck with this discipline for the rest of my career from 1997-2000.

1997 was good year for me on the Giant bikes with a national championship title win and a silver medal at the world championship. In both 98 and 99 I was sidelined for much of these two seasons with broken bone injuries (collar-bone and wrist ). These injuries seemed to take the motivation and speed out of my game. I then rode 2000 as the final season of my career. In 1998 I founded the TOMAC bicycle company with a long time friend and began producing and selling Tomac mountain Bikes. I raced, managed the race team and assisted with the Tomac mountain bike business from 1998-2000.

97 Norba National downhill series Champion
97 UCI World Championship downhill 2nd Place
97 UCI World Cup downhill series, 5th Place
97 Norba National downhill race event Winner, Vermont
97 World Cup Final downhill race event Winner, Austria
97 Norba National dual slalom race event Winner, Washington
98 Winter X games Snow Mt Biking , Bronze Medal
98 Sidelined with broken collar bone
99 Sidelined with broken wrist
2000 The farewell tour
2001 Loretta Lynn Amateur AMA National Motocross Champion (Vet Intermediate)

JOHN TOMAC'S CAREER BRAGGING RIGHTS

6 Time World Champion
4 Time Norba World Champion
1 European World Title
1 UCI World Title

10 Time National Champion
5 Norba national titles
3 downhill, 2 x-country
2 National Road Race titles
1 BMX National title

1 World Cup Championship

3 World Cup Final Event Wins

8 World Cup Event Wins

14 Norba National Event Wins

Mt. Bike Hall of Fame Member
U.S. Bicycling Hall of Fame Member
1991 Velo News Mt Biker of the Year
1994 Korbel Lifetime Achievement Award
1996 Mt. Bike Action Rider of the Year
1997 Norba Sportsmen of the Year
1997 Mt. Bike Magazine Rider of the Year

and yet Thurlow kicked his *** on the Simi ride every week when Tomac was in his prime :)))
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Australia:
1. Robbie McEwan
2. Stuart O'Grady
3. Cadel Evans (if he wins tour he'll go n.o1)
4. Phil Anderson
5. Hubert Opperman
6. Neil Stephens
7. Brad Mcgee
8. Allan Peiper
9.Simon Gerrans
10. Sean Kelly

I don't know who would make way, but I'd want to put Mick Rogers in there as a 3x consecutive world TT champion and a TDF and Giro top ten. In fact, I kind of consider him equal to Gerrans, so perhaps I'll nudge out Shane Kelly for my top 10 :confused:
 
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Mountain Goat said:
I don't know who would make way, but I'd want to put Mick Rogers in there as a 3x consecutive world TT champion and a TDF and Giro top ten. In fact, I kind of consider him equal to Gerrans, so perhaps I'll nudge out Shane Kelly for my top 10 :confused:

Yeah, that list needs to be revised so here goes

1.Cadel Evans
2.Stuart O'Grady
3.Robbie Mcewen
4.Phil Anderson
5.Brad McGee
6.Hubert Opperman
7.Mick Rogers
8.Neil Stephens
9.Allan Peiper
10. SImon Gerrans
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Yeah, that list needs to be revised so here goes

1.Cadel Evans
2.Stuart O'Grady
3.Robbie Mcewen
4.Phil Anderson
5.Brad McGee
6.Hubert Opperman
7.Mick Rogers
8.Neil Stephens
9.Allan Peiper
10. SImon Gerrans

Good revisal. Great to see Cadel on top after his last month of success
 
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Here's three British lists:

Roadies (Men)

1. Tom Simpson
2. Robert Millar
3. Mark Cavendish (future no.1)
4. Barry Hoban
5. Bradley Wiggins
6. Chris Boardman
7. Brian Robinson
8. Malcolm Elliott
9. David Millar
10. Sean Yates

^^This list will get a big shake up in the next ten years

Trackies (Men)

1. Chris Hoy
2. Bradley Wiggins
3. Chris Boardman
4. Graeme Obree
5. Reg Harris
6. Hugh Porter
7. Tony Doyle
8. Jason Queally
9. Jamie Staff
10. Colin Sturgess

Ladies (all disciplines)

1. Nicole Cooke
2. Beyrl Burton
3. Victoria Pendleton
4. Mandy Jones
5. Emma Pooley
6. Rebecca Romero
7. Shanaze Reade
8. Yvonne McGregor
9. Lizzie Armitstead
10. Wendy Houvenhagel
 
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a quick austrian list for your amusement

1. Max Bulla
2. Dolfi Christian
3. Peter Luttenberger
4. Helmut Wechselberger
5. Bernhard Kohl
6. Gerhard Zadrobilek
7. Georg Totschnig
8. Wolfgang Steinmayr
9. Bernhard Eisel
10. Gerrit Glomser

having to leave out titans like Trampusch, Koenigshofer, Haselbacher, Wrolich et al pains me greatly but ten's ten...
 
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runninboy said:
and yet Thurlow kicked his *** on the Simi ride every week when Tomac was in his prime :)))

I'd be more impressed if you listed an actual race where Thurlow beat John Tomac. He certainly didn't beat him at the two national championship road races which Tomac won.

Is this Thurlow Rogers you're talking about? The same Thurlow Rogers who was invited to compete at the Red Bull Road Rage race(on a course he knows very well), yet who aparently chickened out and never showed up to watch Myles Rockwell dominate all the other cyclists?
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Yeah, that list needs to be revised so here goes

1.Cadel Evans
2.Stuart O'Grady
3.Robbie Mcewen
4.Phil Anderson
5.Brad McGee
6.Hubert Opperman
7.Mick Rogers
8.Neil Stephens
9.Allan Peiper
10. SImon Gerrans


and yet another revision for Australia:

1. Sam Hill
2. Cadel Evans
3. Stuart O'Grady
4. Robbie Mcewen
5. Phil Anderson
6. Brad McGee
7. Wade Bootes
8. Hubert Opperman
9. Neil Stephens
10. (tie)Nathan Rennie or Chris Kovarik

It was tough to put Hill above Evans because Cadel has more diversity in his results, but Hill has simply been much more dominant in a much shorter period of time(3 worlds golds, a silver and 2 bronzes + 2 World Cup championships).
 
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bikenrunnwt said:
Canada:

1) Steve Bauer
2) Micheal Barry
3) Ryder Hesjedal
4) Gord Fraser
5) Svein Tuft
6) Alex Stieda
7) Brian Walton
8) Curt Harnett (Track)
9) Christian Meier (Watch out for him when he gets some more Euro experience in!)
10) Alison Sydor (Best Canadian female cyclist on road and mtb!)

i would remove Meier as he has just started his career and hasn't earned this yet. ditto Tuft. 1 good international result/season does not a top 10 from Canada make.

this list is incomplete without 2 pioneers

Gervais Rioux
Dany "Moose" Deslongchamps (moved to europe in the early 80's and won several top amateur 1 day races in France)

I am sure there are some older school heads out there who would also be able to put forth a couple of names from earlier generations.
 
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ProTour said:
and yet another revision for Australia:

1. Sam Hill
2. Cadel Evans
3. Stuart O'Grady
4. Robbie Mcewen
5. Phil Anderson
6. Brad McGee
7. Wade Bootes
8. Hubert Opperman
9. Neil Stephens
10. (tie)Nathan Rennie or Chris Kovarik

It was tough to put Hill above Evans because Cadel has more diversity in his results, but Hill has simply been much more dominant in a much shorter period of time(3 worlds golds, a silver and 2 bronzes + 2 World Cup championships).
Has Hill rode in more than 1 discipline. I don't think so. Evans won the World Cup in MTB twice. He also won a world championship there. Hill has not got nothing on Evans
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Yeah, that list needs to be revised so here goes

1.Cadel Evans
2.Stuart O'Grady
3.Robbie Mcewen
4.Phil Anderson
5.Brad McGee
6.Hubert Opperman
7.Mick Rogers
8.Neil Stephens
9.Allan Peiper
10. SImon Gerrans

Anderson at number 2 for mine and you need to find a spot for Russell Mockridge. He was streets ahead of Stephens, Peiper and Gerrans at the very least.