Tour de France 2013

[pastronef]

any news about 2013?

 

[Ferminal]

Don't think so.

My guess is the north half of the country will be ignored up until Paris. Ventoux or Alpe d'Huez at the end of the first week, Pyrenees a week later, with a transfer back to the Alps for an "epic finish".

 

[roundabout]

Stage 5 to Marseille, stage 6 to Gap. Possibly.

I am hoping for Ventoux as a pass on stage 7. I think Pyrenees would be first up on the menu.

 

[Another_Dutch_Guy]

Stage 5 to Marseille, stage 6 to Gap. Possibly.

I am hoping for Ventoux as a pass on stage 7. I think Pyrenees would be first up on the menu.

The same is rumoured on super-website velowire.com, and sound plausible as well. In the second week there is probably a time trial nearby Dijon, a finish at Semnoz (The Crét du Chattilon), and l'Alpe of course.

Also, Rodez, le Grand Bornand and Morzine seems to be candidate for a stage host.

 

[Netserk]

The same is rumoured on super-website velowire.com, and sound plausible as well. In the second week there is probably a time trial nearby Dijon, a finish at Semnoz (The Crét du Chattilon), and l'Alpe of course.

Also, Rodez, le Grand Bornand and Morzine seems to be candidate for a stage host.

I would have loved if they did a col de joux plan - plateau des saix combo

 

[Swifty's Cakes]

I rode the Sarenne last May, they would need to do some work on that road especially the top section of the descent toward Lac du Chambon.

A nice route to do something different with the Alpe would be to ascend via Villard Reculas to bend 5 then descend Sarenne and loop around to Bourg for all 21 bends. Take your pick for the first half of the stage from Madelaine/Glandon Galibier/Croix de fer or even start at Val d'isere and go over the Iseran/Croix de fer.

 

[Ferminal]

Suggestion that Iseran MTF will be 2014. But the bad news is Tignes also wants a finish, with the MTF being Val d'Isere's bid.

http://www.velowire.com/article/536...rance-2013-in-corsica--all-details-here-.html (see the links in comment 238)

 

[airstream]

generally alpes have only one proper final climb - alpe d'huez, so i'd preffer the pyrenees to be passed later. it's not very possible though. tignes surely would be a disaster. only pla-de-beret is worse.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

generally alpes have only one proper final climb - alpe d'huez, so i'd preffer the pyrenees to be passed later. it's not very possible though. tignes surely would be a disaster. only pla-de-beret is worse.

You forget Arcalis.

 

[airstream]

You forget Arcalis.

arcalis is a bit stronger by the numbers but it has horrible aura impeding attacks.

no way aso are able to include 5 mtfs in the tour. 4 is the ceiling. mont ventoux, 1 pyreneean and 2 alpine ones. it' would be cool to see plateau de beille but i have a feeling they will hit hautacam or luz-ardiden using tourmalet.

Libertine, all the border between spain and france bristles with mountains. is there really no climbs, but arcalis and pladeberet, with a proper infrastructure to organize mtf?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

arcalis is a bit stronger by the numbers but it has horrible aura impeding attacks.

no way aso are able to include 5 mtfs in the tour. 4 is the ceiling. mont ventoux, 1 pyreneean and 2 alpine ones. it' would be cool to see plateau de beille but i have a feeling they will hit hautacam or luz-ardiden using tourmalet.

Libertine, all the border between spain and france bristles with mountains. is there really no climbs, but arcalis and pladeberet, with a proper infrastructure to organize mtf?

Larrau and Pierre St-Martin could organise an MTF. For a smaller, mid-mountain stage Ibardin, like we saw in País Vasco, can. Going with the Andorra ones, there's La Rabassa and Pal, neither of which are stunning but are better than Arcalis. There's also, inside of Spain, Port-Ainé and Estación Vallter2000. Remember they also use Bonascre.

With the western Pyrenean climbs it doesn't matter if they can't host an MTF - you can string together plenty of brutal climbs and finish downhill or even with a bit of flat if you're going over the likes of Errozate, Arnostegi, Bagargui, Irey and Landerre.

 

[roundabout]

Iseran? Hope it doesn't snow.

Also seems like a gimmicky try for the highest finish evah.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Also seems like a gimmicky try for the highest finish evah.

Yeah, if they want the highest finish ever, they should just finish on cime de la bonette al ready.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Excuse me, what is wrong with Tignes?

 

[roundabout]

It's not that difficult.

 

[airstream]

It differs from La Toussuire not that much. As we see, one's domination can explode any climb. But they'd better not include Tignes for the reason of clarity of high mountain genre.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Yeah, if they want the highest finish ever, they should just finish on cime de la bonette al ready.

Val d'Isere wants to host and pay for a finish on the Iseran, so it's not like ASO cares that much. They care about $$$. Though I'm sure they won't mind as it's a great choice for a MTF compared to the other ski resort climbs in the French Alps, with the exception of Alpe d'Huez.

 

[roundabout]

La Plagne, Val Thorens (!!!), even Les Saisies and, well, many more are at least not worse.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Val d'Isere wants to host and pay for a finish on the Iseran, so it's not like ASO cares that much. They care about $$$. Though I'm sure they won't mind as it's a great choice for a MTF compared to the other ski resort climbs in the French Alps, with the exception of Alpe d'Huez.

From what side would they race it btw? Climbbybike gives three sides. All of them look like an okay MTF though I guess, so cash for ASO, nice MTF, that's all right as far as I'm concerned. We shouldn't expect Zomegnanesque things even if it is the 100th TDF, so good Corsica stages and hard multi climb stages is all I ask for. Iseran will be a nice MTF for that I suppose.

Also, I just want a MTF to cime de la bonette because it would be awesome

 

[Peccio89]

It would be nice to have a finish in Tignes after they climbed the Iseran from the Maurienne side, and before the Montcenis and the Monginevre

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

La Plagne, Val Thorens (!!!), even Les Saisies and, well, many more are at least not worse.

The Iseran is great because of the scenery and the altitude, not to mention the length. The climbs you mention may be steeper, but are rather mundane, with the exception of Val Thorens, which I forgot about. But yes, that is indeed a great choice, too.

The N side of the Iseran doesn't have the gradients, but it's still hard. I don't expect a group sprint.

From what side would they race it btw? Climbbybike gives three sides. All of them look like an okay MTF though I guess, so cash for ASO, nice MTF, that's all right as far as I'm concerned. We shouldn't expect Zomegnanesque things even if it is the 100th TDF, so good Corsica stages and hard multi climb stages is all I ask for. Iseran will be a nice MTF for that I suppose.

Also, I just want a MTF to cime de la bonette because it would be awesome

This is about the 2014 TDF, though. It won't feature next year.

It has to pass Val d'Isere and its ski area, so from Bourg St. Maurice presumably. The "easy" but looooong side. It wouldn't surprise me if they they did both sides, though. The S side on the way to Tignes the previous day. Hopefully from Italy over the Moncenisio.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

This is about the 2014 TDF, though. It won't feature next year.

It has to pass Val d'Isere and its ski area, so from Bourg St. Maurice presumably. The "easy" but looooong side. It wouldn't surprise me if they they did both sides, though. The S side on the way to Tignes the previous day. Hopefully from Italy over the Moncenisio.

Ah 2014, eh, well my bad for not reading this thread properly then

Looking at the profiles I actually, despite the low gradients, kind of hoped it would be the loooooooong side. Well, if the rest of the stage is hard, we've al ready been climbin for 30km and we're at over 2500m even 5% should be enough to make a differnce right?

A Colombian should win for sure though! 48km climb to 2770m height!

 

[McLovin]

I still hope for Granon.

 

[airstream]

I still hope for Granon.

Does it have anyone to pay for that?

 

[SetonHallPirate]

I still hope for Granon.

That's a good idea as an end to a stage, especially combined with the Telegraphe-Galibier combination, rather than them making the right towards Alpe d'Huez, have a left turn towards the Col du Granon.