Tour de France 2015 Stage 21: Sèvres › Paris 109.5k

[outnumbered]

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Pozzato takes KOM

First time I can remember hearing his name this tour...

 

[Ramira]

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Pozzato takes KOM

And had a little fist pump to celebrate. I guess it is his biggest victory since 2013.

 

[TMP402]

So the UCI allows one kit change a year. Belgian Lotto had a kit change for the Tour of Belgium a couple of months ago.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

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Do the riders need to finish the race once they've crossed the line once?

Yes

 

[carton]

Oh, they did away with the subtle allusions to Michelle. Thought they were the right mix of funny and understated. Seems I rate her higher than most of the forumites, though.

Mixed feelings about the neutralization. I like the winning isn't everything mentality and the Champs Elysees cobbles would been a madhouse with everyone protecting the GC riders. But one more chance for the hard men would have been fitting. Sagan pipped by Dege at the line would've been classic. Guess on balance I'm for the neutralization.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Do the riders need to finish the race once they've crossed the line once?

Yea, they still need to complete the race, but they don't need to worry about time. Hopefully they don't totally sit up though cos that could become hell to police on such a short circuit.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

I find it a little weird that Bardet rides in the KOM jersey today. On all other stages I think it's fine that the one who's second in the competition wears the jersey when the leader is wearing another, but today? Nah.

 

[dgodave]

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Oh, they did away with the subtle allusions to Michelle. Thought they were the right mix of funny and understated. Seems I rate her higher than most of the forumites, though.

Mixed feelings about the neutralization. I like the winning isn't everything mentality and the Champs Elysees cobbles would been a madhouse with everyone protecting the GC riders. But one more chance for the hard men would have been fitting. Sagan pipped by Dege at the line would've been classic. Guess on balance I'm for the neutralization.

The full length race for the stage win is still on, right?

 

[Vino's Mum]

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Mixed feelings about the neutralization. I like the winning isn't everything mentality and the Champs Elysees cobbles would been a madhouse with everyone protecting the GC riders. But one more chance for the hard men would have been fitting. Sagan pipped by Dege at the line would've been classic. Guess on balance I'm for the neutralization.

They'll still race.

 

[dwyatt]

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what language does quintana speak with froome?...i never saw a english interview of him

Nibali only does Italian interviews as well yet he and Froome talk.

Froome speaks Italian

 

[carton]

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I find it a little weird that Bardet rides in the KOM jersey today. On all other stages I think it's fine that the one who's second in the competition wears the jersey when the leader is wearing another, but today? Nah.

Agreed. At least he has a spare to take home from the earlier stage.

 

[dwyatt]

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Sky apparently have a change of kit for today's stage, with yellow trim instead of blue. I thought that was not allowed, cf the Armstrong 28 million people kit from (?) 2009.

Yeah it shouldn't be allowed. That's **** up.

Sky will just do it and wear the fines - like they have done for illegal feeds in the past. Penalty should be 2 minutes for each member of the team!!

They have permission:

17:10:04 CEST

Froome is now together with his teammates. Sky is wearing a special jersey today, with a yellow stripe down the back. And yes, they got permission for it.

 

[carton]

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what language does quintana speak with froome?...i never saw a english interview of him

Nibali only does Italian interviews as well yet he and Froome talk.

Froome speaks Italian

Nibali has done English interviews on CyclingNews. He can get points across.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Do the riders need to finish the race once they've crossed the line once?

Yea, they still need to complete the race, but they don't need to worry about time. Hopefully they don't totally sit up though cos that could become hell to police on such a short circuit.

Hopefully only about 60-ish riders will bother keeping pace though - that turn looked brutal in the women's race, so luckily only sprint trains and breakaway hopefuls will be there with that (extremely sensible) rule

 

[Eagle]

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Oh, they did away with the subtle allusions to Michelle. Thought they were the right mix of funny and understated. Seems I rate her higher than most of the forumites, though.

Mixed feelings about the neutralization. I like the winning isn't everything mentality and the Champs Elysees cobbles would been a madhouse with everyone protecting the GC riders. But one more chance for the hard men would have been fitting. Sagan pipped by Dege at the line would've been classic. Guess on balance I'm for the neutralization.

The finish isn't nuetralized, just GC

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

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Do the riders need to finish the race once they've crossed the line once?

Yea, they still need to complete the race, but they don't need to worry about time. Hopefully they don't totally sit up though cos that could become hell to police on such a short circuit.

Someone (Boom?) was disqualified for being lapped on the Champs Elyssees a couple of years ago: is that rule still in place?

 

[carton]

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Mixed feelings about the neutralization. I like the winning isn't everything mentality and the Champs Elysees cobbles would been a madhouse with everyone protecting the GC riders. But one more chance for the hard men would have been fitting. Sagan pipped by Dege at the line would've been classic. Guess on balance I'm for the neutralization.

They'll still race.

Yeah, but I think 55k might not be enough to give the classics men (also Stybar, Vanmarcke) an edge.

 

[dwyatt]

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what language does quintana speak with froome?...i never saw a english interview of him

Nibali only does Italian interviews as well yet he and Froome talk.

Froome speaks Italian

Nibali has done English interviews on CyclingNews. He can get points across.

I'd imagine knowing the basics of several languages is pretty useful for a pro cyclist

 

[Zoophonic]

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Oh, they did away with the subtle allusions to Michelle. Thought they were the right mix of funny and understated. Seems I rate her higher than most of the forumites, though.

Mixed feelings about the neutralization. I like the winning isn't everything mentality and the Champs Elysees cobbles would been a madhouse with everyone protecting the GC riders. But one more chance for the hard men would have been fitting. Sagan pipped by Dege at the line would've been classic. Guess on balance I'm for the neutralization.

Yes. if the price we have to pay for not seeing riders getting badly injured after aqua planing across the cobbles then I'm glad they've neutralised the GC.

 

[Vino's Mum]

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Mixed feelings about the neutralization. I like the winning isn't everything mentality and the Champs Elysees cobbles would been a madhouse with everyone protecting the GC riders. But one more chance for the hard men would have been fitting. Sagan pipped by Dege at the line would've been classic. Guess on balance I'm for the neutralization.

They'll still race.

Yeah, but I think 55k might not be enough to give the classics men (also Stybar, Vanmarcke) an edge.

Not sure you understand? Assuming the break is brought back (not a given today), then there'll be a sprint on the last lap.

 

[fungusbear]

Will Sagan try and breakaway rather than wait for the sprint?

 

[Eagle]

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Will Sagan try and breakaway rather than wait for the sprint?

No

 

[sir fly]

Cancellara's missing. Tony martin, as well.
Wonder if Vanmarcke will stretch his legs. I bet we'll see him.

 

[Billie]

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Mixed feelings about the neutralization. I like the winning isn't everything mentality and the Champs Elysees cobbles would been a madhouse with everyone protecting the GC riders. But one more chance for the hard men would have been fitting. Sagan pipped by Dege at the line would've been classic. Guess on balance I'm for the neutralization.

They'll still race.

Yeah, but I think 55k might not be enough to give the classics men (also Stybar, Vanmarcke) an edge.

the stage is never raced before the champs..

 

[ray j willings]

I think we will see some surprises today. I think Nibs will definitely try something.
A long break could stay away.

What would happen if Froome slips on the cobbles and Movie start to get a decent gap ,,,,they would have to go for it.