Tour de France 2019

[tobydawq]

Dimension Data without Cavendish in the tour.
Valgren and Meintjes are both 27 - the rest are all 30 or older.

Edvald Boasson Hagen
Stephen Cummings
Reinardt Janse v. Rensburg
Michael Valgren
Roman Kreuziger
Giacomo Nizzolo
Ben King
Lars Bak

Thank god they didn't brink cavendish, but Lats Bak i don't really understand. Anybody Think EBH will try for Green?

No. He never has before and is not really fast enough, I don't think. Maybe Nizzolo wants to try - he has experience doing it from the Giro. It will be a futile attempt in any case, though.

 

[wirral]

Dimension Data without Cavendish in the tour.
Valgren and Meintjes are both 27 - the rest are all 30 or older.

Edvald Boasson Hagen
Stephen Cummings
Reinardt Janse v. Rensburg
Michael Valgren
Roman Kreuziger
Giacomo Nizzolo
Ben King
Lars Bak

They will qualify for a free pass for the team bus.

 

[wirral]

Anybody Think EBH will try for Green?

Definitely not.

 

[Cinemaniak]

Stephen Cummings... is mr anonymous for over 2 years now. Why?!

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Re:

Stephen Cummings... is mr anonymous for over 2 years now. Why?!

Cummings:
"I was pleasantly surprised about the Tour selection, I wasn’t expecting that."

 

[RunningRouleur]

Re: Re:

I'm happy for Ben King.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

EDIT: (forgot Norway - as usual )

With all but the last 2 EF riders selected, the nations list is:

France: 34
Belgium: 21
Italy: 15
Spain: 13
Germany: 11
Netherlands: 10
Denmark: 9
Australia: 7
Norway: 6
USA: 6
GB: 6
Colombia: 4
Austria: 4
Switzerland: 4
Portugal: 3
Canada: 2
New Zealand: 2
Ireland: 2
South Africa: 2
Slovenia: 2
Poland: 2
Kazakhstan: 1
Slovakia: 1
Czech Republic: 1
Costa Rica: 1
Argentina: 1
Russia: 1
Latvia: 1
Eritrea: 1
Estonia: 1

30 countries in total.

For the stats freaks out there, if you relate riders to population (lowest population per rider), the list is:

Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Slovenia, Estonia, Netherlands, Latvia, France, Switzerland, Austria, New Zealand, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Australia, Italy, Costa Rica, Eritrea, Slovakia, Germany, Czech Republic, GB, Colombia, Kazakhstan, Canada, Poland, South Africa, Argentina, USA, Russia.

 

[tobydawq]

Re:

With all but the last 2 EF riders selected, the nations list is:

France: 34
Belgium: 21
Italy: 15
Spain: 13
Germany: 11
Netherlands: 10
Denmark: 9
Australia: 7
USA: 6
GB: 6
Colombia: 4
Austria: 4
Switzerland: 4
Portugal: 3
Canada: 2
New Zealand: 2
Ireland: 2
South Africa: 2
Slovenia: 2
Poland: 2
Kazakhstan: 1
Slovakia: 1
Czech Republic: 1
Costa Rica: 1
Argentina: 1
Russia: 1
Latvia: 1
Eritrea: 1
Estonia: 1

30 countries in total.

Something is wrong with that list. Norway is missing but the numbers add up to 168 as they should without EF.

 

[RedheadDane]

Final "Scandi Battle" standings:

Norway: 6 - "Likely" guy from previously was confirmed.
Denmark: 9 - One of the "likely" guys didn't make the cut, but then an old guy came in from the left-field.

And I know EF hasn't revealed their roster yet, but since they have no Norwegians, and an injured Dane...

---
Now for something a bit more important; breakdown of champions!

Astana Pro Team
Alexey Lutsenko (Kaz) - ITT + RR

Bahrain-Merida
Rohan Dennis (Aus) - ITT (W)

Bora-Hansgrohe
Patrick Konrad (Aut) - RR
Maximilian Schachmann (Ger) - RR

CCC Team
Patrick Bevin (NZl) - ITT

Cofidis, Solutions Crédits
Natnael Berhane (Eri) - RR

Deceuninck-QuickStep
Kasper Asgreen (Den) - ITT
Michael Mørkøv (Den) - RR
Maximiliano Richeze (Arg) - RR

Groupama-FDJ
Stefan Küng (Swi) - ITT
Sébastien Reichenbach (Swi) - RR

Mitchelton-Scott
Luke Durbridge (Aus) - ITT
Daryl Impey (RSA) - ITT + RR
Matteo Trentin (Ita) - RR (E)

Movistar Team
Alejandro Valverde (Spa) - RR (W + nat)

Team Arkéa-Samsic
Warren Barguil (Fra) - RR

Team INEOS
Jonathan Castroviejo (Spa) - ITT

Team Jumbo-Visma
Amund Grøndahl Jansen (Nor) - RR
Tony Martin (Ger) - ITT
Wout Van Aert (Bel) - ITT

Team Katusha-Alpecin
Alex Dowsett (GBr) - ITT
José Gonçalves (Por) - ITT

Total Direct Energie
Rein Taaramäe (Est) - ITT

Trek-Segafredo
Toms Skujins (Lat) - RR

 

[sir fly]

Re:

Final "Scandi Battle" standings:

Norway: 6 - "Likely" guy from previously was confirmed.
Denmark: 9 - One of the "likely" guys didn't make the cut, but then an old guy came in from the left-field.

So, basically, should the Vikings haven't split, they'd have 96 riders of the Tour?

And for something a bit more important; the only breakdown I appreciate is the 8. nervous one.
... and a bit of the nineteenth.

 

[RedheadDane]

Re: Re:

Final "Scandi Battle" standings:

Norway: 6 - "Likely" guy from previously was confirmed.
Denmark: 9 - One of the "likely" guys didn't make the cut, but then an old guy came in from the left-field.

So, basically, should the Vikings haven't split, they'd have 96 riders of the Tour?

And for something a bit more important; the only breakdown I appreciate is the 8. nervous one.
... and a bit of the nineteenth.

You have an interesting version of math. 9+6 isn't 96.

 

[sir fly]

Re: Re:

Final "Scandi Battle" standings:

Norway: 6 - "Likely" guy from previously was confirmed.
Denmark: 9 - One of the "likely" guys didn't make the cut, but then an old guy came in from the left-field.

So, basically, should the Vikings haven't split, they'd have 96 riders of the Tour?

And for something a bit more important; the only breakdown I appreciate is the 8. nervous one.
... and a bit of the nineteenth.

You have an interesting version of math. 9+6 isn't 96.

Return that cross on Swiss flag...
if not 96, then it must be 69, right?!

...The Vikingiest math you'll ever learn.

 

[Frankschleck]

I am really surprissed that Berhane made cofids squad. Jesper Hansen looked better at dauphine and has better results in my opinion. Atapuma on top is better than Hansen and Behrane as well. But maybe smart leaving Atapuma and Hansen to the Vuelta, where they have pretty big chances of contesting a win from the breakaways, where a lot more go all the way.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

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I am really surprissed that Berhane made cofids squad. Jesper Hansen looked better at dauphine and has better results in my opinion. Atapuma on top is better than Hansen and Behrane as well. But maybe smart leaving Atapuma and Hansen to the Vuelta, where they have pretty big chances of contesting a win from the breakaways, where a lot more go all the way.

If they believed in Hansen, they would have selected him, his entire season program was targeting the Tour.

Not getting selected is quite a blow to his prospects.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Is there always this much focus on nationality? Just hope that TV2's coverage doesn't only do Danes with this many around. Dont understand Bak really, but glad for him. Will most likely be his last TdF.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

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Is there always this much focus on nationality? Just hope that TV2's coverage doesn't only do Danes with this many around. Dont understand Bak really, but glad for him. Will most likely be his last TdF.

There is in every sport

Ofcourse TV2 will do almost only danes, but you can always switch to Eurosport Denmark, where they talk mostly about danes

Or - get VPN and access Eurosport France, where they mostly speak of french riders, or Eurosport UK, where they mostly talk of british riders, or Eurosport Belgium, where they mostly speak of belgian riders, etc.

 

[Escarabajo]

Or Señal Colombia where they mostly talk about Colombians!

 

[perico]

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It's pretty sad that a rider who has no results all year can still be considered a favourite for the Tour.

We have examples of riders being nowhere in the season before Tdf and still being in the form of their life in July. Take in example Nibali 2014. I see no reason not to consider G being in shape a week from now.

LeMond made it an art form post 1986.

 

[sir fly]

Re: Re:

Is there always this much focus on nationality? Just hope that TV2's coverage doesn't only do Danes with this many around. Dont understand Bak really, but glad for him. Will most likely be his last TdF.

There is in every sport

Ofcourse TV2 will do almost only danes, but you can always switch to Eurosport Denmark, where they talk mostly about danes

Or - get VPN and access Eurosport France, where they mostly speak of french riders, or Eurosport UK, where they mostly talk of british riders, or Eurosport Belgium, where they mostly speak of belgian riders, etc.

Or Señal Colombia where they mostly talk about Colombians!

EuroSport Serbia is the answer.

 

[RedheadDane]

My parents were in Ireland for the last week of the Tour back in 2011, and the only channel showing the Tour was… a Gaelic one. Needless to say, the didn't understand much, except "Roche". So, I guess Gaelic channels focus mostly on the Irish riders.
And Danish media also seems pretty focused on the fact that there's a record amount of Danish riders, and on many different teams, so the journalists gotta run, run run! :twisted:

Silly fact: Back in 1960 there was a guy who missed the start, because his shoes went missing. That's just really annoying.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

Is there always this much focus on nationality? Just hope that TV2's coverage doesn't only do Danes with this many around. Dont understand Bak really, but glad for him. Will most likely be his last TdF.

There is in every sport

Ofcourse TV2 will do almost only danes, but you can always switch to Eurosport Denmark, where they talk mostly about danes

Or - get VPN and access Eurosport France, where they mostly speak of french riders, or Eurosport UK, where they mostly talk of british riders, or Eurosport Belgium, where they mostly speak of belgian riders, etc.

Dont get me wrong, I love how many Danes are attending the race and I do like Tv2's coverage, but I just fear its a tad too much with 9 Danes. The best thing is many of them probably will be relevant.

 

[Leinster]

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My parents were in Ireland for the last week of the Tour back in 2011, and the only channel showing the Tour was… a Gaelic one. Needless to say, the didn't understand much, except "Roche". So, I guess Gaelic channels focus mostly on the Irish riders.
And Danish media also seems pretty focused on the fact that there's a record amount of Danish riders, and on many different teams, so the journalists gotta run, run run! :twisted:

Silly fact: Back in 1960 there was a guy who missed the start, because his shoes went missing. That's just really annoying.

You are Chris Juul Jensen’s brother then?

After a quick check, Dan Martin didn’t make his Tour debut until 2011, so the story checks out.

I used to enjoy the TG4 commentators. One of them would constantly refer to “Lance an lámh láidir Armstrong,” a literal translation of “the Strong arm.” My Irish isn’t the sharpest, but I could get enough of the jist to follow, same as listening to French commentary when I can get it.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Re: Re:

Is there always this much focus on nationality? Just hope that TV2's coverage doesn't only do Danes with this many around. Dont understand Bak really, but glad for him. Will most likely be his last TdF.

There is in every sport

Ofcourse TV2 will do almost only danes, but you can always switch to Eurosport Denmark, where they talk mostly about danes

Or - get VPN and access Eurosport France, where they mostly speak of french riders, or Eurosport UK, where they mostly talk of british riders, or Eurosport Belgium, where they mostly speak of belgian riders, etc.

Dont get me wrong, I love how many Danes are attending the race and I do like Tv2's coverage, but I just fear its a tad too much with 9 Danes. The best thing is many of them probably will be relevant.

I don't really get why it can be too "much"?
I mean, if they are good enough, why shouldn't they get to ride?

The only one I wonder about is Bak, he has seemed over the hill this year.
But the other 8, will all be visible in one way or the other:

Fuglsang is a given, as a captain.

Cort will complete the Jalabert transition this Tour

The Kraghen will ride top 10 in the ITT, and probably be in at least 2 breaks (having an entirely free role).

Valgren will be last or 2nd last on Hagens train, and ride in breaks on both hilly and mountain stages.

Moerkoev will be last or 2nd last on Vivianis train, as well as function as road captain.

Asgreen will do long hours keeping breaks in check, and well as wind it up for the train to the 1 k mark, and also either do breaks or ride for Mas (depending on where Mas is) in the mountains.... oh and btw, also ride top 10 in the ITT.

Wurtz will ride top 20 on the ITT, and go for stages in hilly and light mountain stages.

Juul will be the usual dependable, tough, durable road captain for Yates, both on flat stages and until the last climb on mountain stages.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

EF:

Uran
Woods
Bettiol
Kangert
Van Garderen
Clarke
Langeveld
Scully

On paper, this is actually a pretty good squad.

But as usual with EF, life is like a box of chocolates

 

[42x16ss]

Re:

EF:

Uran
Woods
Bettiol
Kangert
Van Garderen
Clarke
Langeveld
Scully

On paper, this is actually a pretty good squad.

But as usual with EF, life is like a box of chocolates

Uran, Woods and TJVG? Hope JV has leadership organised well before stage 6