Tour de France 2020 | Stage 12 (Chauvigny - Sarran, 218 km)

[SKSemtex]

How many points does he claw back?

2

 

[JosephK]

A boatload of panache showed up for stage 12. Incredible first world tour win for Hirschi. He should be in the lead also for the TDF's most combative rider award.

 

[Gigs_98]

On another note, one thing I truly don't understand is, why did all those guys who fancied there chances to win and attacked on those two final climbs not just do that at the beginning of the stage? I mean, eventually they did get their chance to compete for the stage win, but they were really lucky some teams didn't let the break go. It's so weird that so many riders think they can win here yet at the beginning they didn't show any interest in actually working towards that.

 

[Keram]

How many points does he claw back?

Lost two on internediate and gain four at the finish

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Sagan won the sprint for 13th.

That was a hell of a lot of work by his team for a net gain of 2 points on Bennett

 

[ppanther92]

can’t really blame the team. Oss and Poestlberger kept a strong break on a leash on all day. Schachmann was among the strongest. Sagan just didn’t have it.

I don't think you can say "Sagan didn'T have it" either though... Looking at the results, he was the only rider in the peloton for Bora. You can't expect him to go with Hirschi. If the team was stronger, they may have contested for 2nd. But they are missing Mühlberger, Pöstlberger and Oss did a lot of work, Schachmann was in the late break. Kämna did also attack, maybe they should have kept him back with Sagan to ride. But then again, one rider is surely not enough.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Wasn't there an unanimous consensus here that Sunweb's Tour team was crap?

I thought so but they have proven me wrong. They have been trying all the time

 

[spalco]

This guy really is better than I expected. Still dont see him as a GC-contender long term, but the guy can win so many freaking races and he has the perfect profile for a Liege-winner and can probably win many 1 week stage races as well. But he should be very competitive in race like Strade, Amstel, Liege, E-3, San Sebastian, Canada, probably Lombardia and Flanders as well?

Maybe M-SR also if the dice fall lucky with his downhill skills. Probably not solo, but in the right, small group his sprint could be enough.

 

[huangho]

I don't think we have seen yet the last epic performance from Hirschi in this tour, there are a couple of stages ahead that can call him back to action!!

 

[Andy262]

Good performance. Too hard climb for him to follow attackers. He was lucky he came back to peloton. Finally on form

The signs were there in the sprint yesterday that's he's beginning to ride himself into form. I agree today backs that up.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

On another note, one thing I truly don't understand is, why did all those guys who fancied there chances to win and attacked on those two final climbs not just do that at the beginning of the stage? I mean, eventually they did get their chance to compete for the stage win, but they were really lucky some teams didn't let the break go. It's so weird that so many riders think they can win here yet at the beginning they didn't show any interest in actually working towards that.

I think Sagan made it impossible for others to get across because DQS wouldn’t let him go. Then once he’d tried and failed everyone else knew Bora would control the existing break

 

[SKSemtex]

Bora will be with wet powder

On another note, one thing I truly don't understand is, why did all those guys who fancied there chances to win and attacked on those two final climbs not just do that at the beginning of the stage? I mean, eventually they did get their chance to compete for the stage win, but they were really lucky some teams didn't let the break go. It's so weird that so many riders think they can win here yet at the beginning they didn't show any interest in actually working towards that.

Because they did not have to. Bore showed to much of interest.

See my signature.

 

[Breh]

If you think this stage might have suited a certain Michael Matthews, his team has grander objectives in mind for him.

Like the KoM jersey in Tirreno Adriatico

lol

 

[Leinster]

Wasn't there an unanimous consensus here that Sunweb's Tour team was crap?

More that by leaving Matthews out they had cut off their own path to victory in a number of stages.

But in fairness to them, I think today was one of those stages, and I don't think that any of us were prepared for just how good Hirschi has been in this Tour. So Sunweb's staff knew something we didn't. Who knew?

 

[Red Rick]

lol

Yeah I'm sure they would've been far worse with Matthews there

 

[richwallone]

Congrats to Hirschi!!! Well deserved, another amazing solo ride Great talent.

 

[SKSemtex]

Quite a nice stage. I love the classics. Bring them on.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Solid stage in the end despite the disappointing start. What a win for Hirschi, can't think of anyone who I'd have been happier for today. Would not be surprised to see him reach Paris with the polka dots or another stage win to his name.

 

[SKSemtex]

Yeah I'm sure they would've been far worse with Matthews there

Me too. They surely saw the numbers in preparation. Hirschi is the staaar.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Yeah I'm sure they would've been far worse with Matthews there

Dunno what Sunweb were thinking - they could have had Hirschi and the rest ride on the front for the last 30 km to tee it up that Matthews / Sagan / GVA showdown we've all been waiting for

 

[Valv.Piti]

Now bring on the Puy Mary, I can watch the stage from the beginning and I have been seeing forward to that since the route got unveiled. Think that will be a great stage before the real mountains, should be really fast like this one (at least until we get a break).

 

[Red Rick]

Now bring on the Puy Mary, I can watch the stage from the beginning and I have been seeing forward to that since the route got unveiled. Think that will be a great stage before the real mountains, should be really fast like this one (at least until we get a break).

If the break gets 30 minutes then @Gigs_98 at last has met his match

 

[Leinster]

Bora will be with wet powder

Because they did not have to. Bore showed to much of interest.

See my signature.

Yup. The way the stage played out, I think if Bora hadn't kept the break in line, Sunweb would have had some guys working through the day to keep them close, and still launched the same move as they did, just maybe without Kragh.

 

[Salvarani]

Wasn't there an unanimous consensus here that Sunweb's Tour team was crap?

At first glance and not looking into it much... but it got youth, experience and some riders that on their day can win and has won before. It was designed to win one stage or two. They had been close so far, and now succeeded. Today was really a great performance.

 

[HelloDolly]

Yeah I'm sure they would've been far worse with Matthews there

Its not that the teama would be worse but it may have changed the dynamic

Matthews has not been happy since last year and they probably knew he was leaving a long time ago

So they went with the young team and put faith in them

Good for them ...how else do you get your youngsters to step up if you dont give them the chance ?