Tour de France Tour de France 2021, Stage 3: Lorient - Pontivy, 183.9 km

[Carols]

Cobrelli should be disciplined!

Moments later, Roglic himself came up with a response . “I got a body check from Colbrelli. It wasn't necessary, but it was very stressful with all those narrow streets.'

 

[titan31]

Kwiatowski critical of the stages again

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I don't really agree with the prologue stuff as we had selective stage 1 and 2 (even with no crashes, they were selective)

 

[Broccolidwarf]

I think some guys who are down 7-15 minutes after the mountains and time trialing would rather go into breaks and not be GC guys anymore. So some teams wouldn't have a GC candidate anymore. As long as they have only lost 1-3 minutes that's different of course.

GC teams still work for their captain week 3, even if he is 10 minutes down, because that can easily be a top 10 in the end.

 

[Rollthedice]

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well guys, Rogla says he was bodychecked by Colbrelli

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[Broccolidwarf]

And I'm really not in favour of longer neutralizations, the 3km rule already bugs me, although I don't know how to do it better. But I just think a race should be a race; if there are so many people in the race who are just a bit of "dead flesh" on those km, I don't like that.

I dunno why?

Obviously it should not be in effect for mountains or puncheur stages - only for the ones that are fairly certain to end in full peloton bunch sprints - like today.

It's not important to the race, that all the GC teams go full gas the last 10K of such a stage IMO.

 

[titan31]

Ewan
Cavendish
Mellier
Demare
Pedersen
Bouhanni
Sagan
Bol
Van Poppel
Greipel
Colbrelli
Coquard
Lapoorte
Matthews
Walscheid

That's 15 - and add to that, that ASO could not know if WvA and Cort would sprint, when planning our the route.

Most of those don't have a train tbh. The trains there are Lotto, FDJ, QS (doubles for GC too), Alpecin and DSM, and Bahrain to an extent (that's more for GC)

 

[Vino's Mum]

I distinctly remember looking at Riis' "hairstyle", and thinking "why the hell would this guy be against the helmet rule?"

Lovely hair there.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Most of those don't have a train tbh. The trains there are Lotto, FDJ, QS (doubles for GC too), Alpecin and DSM, and Bahrain to an extent (that's more for GC)

Yes they do, all of them.

Not everyone has a 6 rider train like Ewan, but everyone has at least 2 guys helping them get in position.

 

[JosefK]

I wouldn't be surprised if Roglic is a DNS in the next few days.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The bookies noticed Roglic's problems today. Tadej's odds shortened significantly, he's the favourite against the field in most bets. OTOH Roglic's (who was co-favourite) drifted dramatically with Carapaz having similar chances to him:

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Pogacar easing to victory instead of Slovenian war? Or 2014 all over again with Carapaz doing Nibali, the only survivor?

 

[Red Rick]

And I'm really not in favour of longer neutralizations, the 3km rule already bugs me, although I don't know how to do it better. But I just think a race should be a race; if there are so many people in the race who are just a bit of "dead flesh" on those km, I don't like that.

It should be a race.

Not a lame season of Survivor.

 

[Red Rick]

GC teams still work for their captain week 3, even if he is 10 minutes down, because that can easily be a top 10 in the end.

Yeah, but never like this.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

I am or he touched his back wheel, Roglic didnt fall on his own

Geraint Thomas managed it.

 

[Red Rick]

The bookies noticed Roglic's problems today. Tadej's odds shortened significantly, he's the favourite against the field in most bets. OTOH Roglic's (who was co-favourite) drifted dramatically with Carapaz having similar chances to him:

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That's like saying Nadals odds for Wimbledon went up when he announced he wasn't playing.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

With Roglic, Kruijswijk and Kuss all with big time losses and significant injuries, I wonder what their plan is for the rest of the Tour.

There is no way they can bank on Vingegaard on GC, it's his first ever Tour, and he would probably crack completely week 3.

Stage hunting?

 

[Leinster]

Ewan
Cavendish
Mellier
Demare
Pedersen
Bouhanni
Sagan
Bol
Van Poppel
Greipel
Colbrelli
Coquard
Lapoorte
Matthews
Walscheid

That's 15 - and add to that, that ASO could not know if WvA and Cort would sprint, when planning out the route.

That's 15 sprinters, not 15 trains. Greipel doesn't have a train, he has a guy. Sagan, Bouhanni, Matthews are all there surfing the wheels of the other sprinters, Cav is subject to the whims of Alaphilippe's gc ambitions. Really only Demare and Ewan came to the Tour with full, dedicated, sprint train teams.

 

[Carols]

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[Update] Roglic laat gehavende lichaam zien: 'Mummie gaat van start'

(28 juni) Primoz Roglic is hard ten val gekomen in de slotfa

www.indeleiderstrui.nl

 

[Breezy1985]

He who crashes the least, wins?

Nibali will be adding to his trophy cabinet in that case

 

[Broccolidwarf]

That's 15 sprinters, not 15 trains. Greipel doesn't have a train, he has a guy. Sagan, Bouhanni, Matthews are all there surfing the wheels of the other sprinters, Cav is subject to the whims of Alaphilippe's gc ambitions. Really only Demare and Ewan came to the Tour with full, dedicated, sprint train teams.

Why does it suddenly have to be "full"? What does that even mean?

The debate here is the width of the road - not how long your train is.

Crashes happen, because 50 riders want position in the first 20, and that dynamic is caused by a lot of teams having sprinters in attendance, each with anywhere from 2 to 6 riders helping the sprinter in the finale.

 

[jmdirt]

I'm late to the game everyday this week because we are in a heat wave (100+ F for 10 days with several 90+ leading into it) so I have to ride and walk the dog before noon!

Congrats TM!
I love seeing the yellow jersey stringing it out for his sprinter!
I dislike seeing so many guys hitting the ground!

 

[The pet snake of Froome]

For me the stage 1 already crossed the line. Hope that teams do the right thing and go home.

CALM DOWN

 

[ciranda]

In the only shot we have we don't see what Roglic is doing at all. He might have been trying to avoid riding over a hedgehog on the road or whatever for all we know.

Don't blame hedgehogs, they are nocturnal creatures that would never be on the road in the afternoon.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

CALM DOWN

You are too late - he already left for the duration of the Tour (as you will read later on in the thread) - so sorry

 

[jmdirt]

That's 15 sprinters, not 15 trains. Greipel doesn't have a train, he has a guy. Sagan, Bouhanni, Matthews are all there surfing the wheels of the other sprinters, Cav is subject to the whims of Alaphilippe's gc ambitions. Really only Demare and Ewan came to the Tour with full, dedicated, sprint train teams.

MvdP and JP ARE a train!

 

[The pet snake of Froome]

posters need to stop moaning about todays route as it wasn't that bad, its the riders own fault