Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 5 (Lille Métropole – Arenberg Porte du Hainaut, 157k)

[Extinction]

Still, somehow it's a wasted chance for Quintana as well as for Gaudu & Vlasov to gain over a minute on Vingegaard, Thomas, Martinez etc.

They were in a perfect position with 15 kilometres to go and threw it away!

How did they throw it away? Wasn't the Vingegaard, Van Aert group just chasing back faster?

 

[RobertCrawley]

So much to talk about with this stage but I want to applaud the efforts of the Aussie Simon Clarke, not just for the win today, but for staying with the sport and winning his first TdF stage at the age of 35.

Well done.

 

[staubsauger]

How did they throw it away? Wasn't the Vingegaard, Van Aert group just chasing back faster?

It didn't look like there was a good cooperation between Arkea, BORA & Francaise des Jeux pulling the group once Pogacar left. Maybe they simply were spent though.

 

[Extinction]

It didn't look like there was a good cooperation between Arkea, BORA & Francaise des Jeux pulling the group once Pogacar left. Maybe they simply were spent though.

That's what I thought, just didn't have much more in the tank. Even Pog and Stuyven with much effort gained so little in the end.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I don’t see why anyone is criticising Stuyven. Pulling with Pogacar gives him a 1% chance of winning. Theres always the possibility the front group really starts messing around. Not working he has a 0% chance. And he wasn’t disadvantaging his own team, because they have nothing else at stake in that situation.

 

[Extinction]

This stage will be left in the legs of many. Consider it like 1/2 Paris-Roubaix, which they say takes riders a week to get over in the legs and body. Someone important could thus pay for it over the next couple of days.

 

[BR2]

I don’t see why anyone is criticising Stuyven. Pulling with Pogacar gives him a 1% chance of winning. Theres always the possibility the front group really starts messing around. Not working he has a 0% chance. And he wasn’t disadvantaging his own team, because they have nothing else at stake in that situation.

I totally understand why he was pulling as long as they had a chance. But with about 5km to go that chance was gone and he still pulled Pogacar till the end. I am not critisizing him. But I was astonished.

 

[Bonimenier]

I totally understand why he was pulling as long as they had a chance. But with about 5km to go that chance was gone and he still pulled Pogacar till the end. I am not critisizing him. But I was astonished.

What is so astonishing about it? A 6th place is way better than whatever result Trek would have gotten if they were caught. For him and his team it doesn't matter whether Pogacar takes some time on others.

 

[Extinction]

I totally understand why he was pulling as long as they had a chance. But with about 5km to go that chance was gone and he still pulled Pogacar till the end. I am not critisizing him. But I was astonished.

To tell his grandchildren one day that he pulled the Great Pogacar to the finish.

 

[Big Doopie]

I totally understand why he was pulling as long as they had a chance. But with about 5km to go that chance was gone and he still pulled Pogacar till the end. I am not critisizing him. But I was astonished.

but he has absolutely no stake in any gc result so why not pull for himself/stage placing whatever?

i do not get this criticism.

 

[DenisMenchov]

Shouldn't Vingo be DSQ for this?!

 

[King Of The Wolds]

So much to talk about with this stage but I want to applaud the efforts of the Aussie Simon Clarke, not just for the win today, but for staying with the sport and winning his first TdF stage at the age of 35.

Well done.

Agreed, Carlton.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

but he has absolutely no stake in any gc result so why not pull for himself/stage placing whatever?

i do not get this criticism.

Why would a guy pull to take 6th, especially one with his palmares? Just rest up and save your matches for another stage.

 

[StryderHells]

I'll go out on a limb and say a stray hay bale on the route is bad luck.

Bah! Stray hay bales are a legit part of bike racing

 

[StryderHells]

Agreed, Carlton.

Rubbish! folk outside of that idiot can enjoy Clarke‘s win.

 

[Extinction]

The big surprise and disappointment today was Sagen. What happened?

 

[YavorD]

Great stage. Jumbo doing Jumbo things, probably funniest thing I've ever seen.

For everyone saying Pog spent a lot for nothing, that's true, but I'd really don't think anyone had a free and easy ride, won't be surprised if some people spent more despite not pulling at all.
Plus tactically Jumbo should be all about Vingo now, so their biggest advantage - numbers - seems to be gone.

P.s Pog's team is horrible in "classics" stages, he's been lucky not to be unlucky so far, but UAE are really playing with that luck. Also, I know he wasn't planned to ride and maybe he's saving but Hirshi looks bad until now at least.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

The big surprise and disappointment today was Sagen. What happened?

The big surprise and disappointment today was Sagen. What happened?

Crashed on the corner turning into the first pavé section

 

[Rackham]

The big surprise and disappointment today was Sagen. What happened?

He crashed himself.

 

[Sciatic]

The big surprise and disappointment today was Sagen. What happened?

Crashed in a corner, while sitting close to the front, just before the peloton entered the 1st (or perhaps it was the 2nd?) pave sector.

ed. A bit slow on the draw

 

[Roku]

Vlasov looked really good today. He might not have experience on the cobbles, but he has raced the Strade Bianche stage in the last Giro and multiple Italian races with a decent amount of unpaved roads in the u23 ranks. Clearly no Menchov/Zakarin/Sivakov when it comes to bike handling skills.

Vlasov is very good at positioning and good on general bike handling abilities. A true all-rounder.

 

[JRanton]

Rabo indeed failed, but Ineos rode like bitches and underwhelmed for all the hype. The 3 Ineos GC riders finished in the same group as noted cobble specialists Thibaut Pinot and Enric Mas.

Thomas crashed at the same time as Roglic and then had to ride the rest of the stage on a damaged bike. Yates and Martinez aren’t exactly cobbled specialists. Ganna is injured. The only surprise was Van Baarle not being called back to help the chase.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

BTW i got really lucky to be able to watch the stage. WiFi in Norwegian trains was good enough!

 

[Samamba]

Stuyven criticism is ridiculous. Literally doesn't have a GC rider. Pogacar being in his wheel is irrelevant for him.

 

[Netserk]

I don’t see why anyone is criticising Stuyven. Pulling with Pogacar gives him a 1% chance of winning. Theres always the possibility the front group really starts messing around. Not working he has a 0% chance. And he wasn’t disadvantaging his own team, because they have nothing else at stake in that situation.

Exactly. He had no good reason not to give it a go, so it's natural to cooperate with whoever you're with at that moment.