Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 14: Annemasse - Morzine, 151.8k

[RobertCrawley]

Gaudu 6 minutes down
Pidcock 8.40

Ouch.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Are Vingo fans or whatever happy with the way the sprint at the top panned out? Or everything goes now?
If you could sensibly argue that the moto/public had no bearing on the favourable 5s outcome I'll be happy to comply.
PS: you can't.

 

[HelloDolly]

Gall 9th. The hard work by AG2R pays off.

in fairness Gall was very good today and finished with Hindley

long way to go yet and anything can happen ...maybe top 7 ?

 

[Tim Cahill]

INEOS making a mistake by losing Rodriquez ...best GC hope they have ???

Second best hope I think, thank god they at least they still have #1 hope, Tao Geoghegan-Hart!

 

[bill1109]

Great job by Yates. Pogs interview before stage was to survive. And he did. So glad to be able to see this battle. Pray for no stupid crashes. Glasses off of Pog adds something. Shows his face and concentration and pain. Great. Race.

And Rodriquez was staggering after opening crash. What a race to watch.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Can you feel their testosterone sinking with the wives around?

 

[topt]

He just lost one. Fact.

lets wait for UAE complaint

 

[RobertCrawley]

Crazy day. The only thing missing is Chris Froome in full kit jogging up the Joux Plane.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Mountain stages pass by and Pog & Vinge are very close to each other. The ITT is looming larger and larger in this regard.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Pidcock - consolation puppy

 

[ppanther92]

Maybe he could have, but I think it's a risk-reward consideration. Clearly he's a better descender than Pogacar though, you saw him sometimes having to correct Pogi's awkward lines. This was also obvious in last year's Tour.

If he's getting a bit more desperate and he really can't drop Pogi uphill he's probably going to try. He did try for a bit on the Tourmalet stage, for example.

I actually agree. Pogacar is really not a great descender. I was never really aware before last year bit I noticed the same with Vingegaard having to correct the weird lines and it also explains why Rodriguez won eventhough Pogacar tried to reel him in.

 

[SHAD0W93]

He just lost one. Fact.

Vinge had a massive assist. Fact.

 

[Bolder]

Mentioned before, but Rodriguez's knees are really misaligned for cycling. Great ride today in any case.

I am not so sure he'll get better support at Movistar but he did it on his own today...

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Pog is never losing a sprint to Vingegaard.

Samu was never losing a sprint to Andy Schleck or Andreas Klöden until he suddenly did.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Rodriguez is a great time triallist, Hindley will need to attack if he can if he wants a chance of the podium

 

[theyoungest]

Are Vingo fans or whatever happy with the way the sprint at the top panned out? Or everything goes now?
If could sensibly argue that the moto/public had no bearing on the favourable 5s outcome I'll be happy to comply.
PS: you can't.

Vingegaard had to slalom his way through morons showing their naked arse to the camera. I think they're about even in how they were handicapped on this climb.

 

[movingtarget]

Two great stages for Ineos. Rodriguez can thank the track sprinters riding ahead of him. Third place battle now down to three maybe two if Hindley has some injury. Pretty good stage although the track stands got a little boring.

 

[bill1109]

Pretty dumb from Pogacar at the end, instead of 7 sec gain, he lost 1, and how things stands, seconds could decide this Tour.

Apply for DS position.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Imagine if it was Remco. He would’ve Zidane’d these motorbikes.

He wouldn't even be up there together with Poga and Vinge to begin with.

 

[ontheroad]

I still don't think the Tour will ultimately be decided by the bonus seconds but I think there was a very high probablility that Pogacar would've won it had he been allowed to continue with his attack. Instead of being 4 seconds behind on GC he is now 10. Not a huge difference but it could yet be a factor. It was a failure by the Motos in that instance.

 

[jono]

I still don't think the Tour will ultimately be decided by the bonus seconds but I think there was a very high probablility that Pogacar would've won it had he been allowed to continue with his attack. Instead of being 4 seconds behind on GC he is now 10. Not a huge difference but it could yet be a factor. It was a failure by the Motos in that instance.

Plus a further 2 seconds in his favour with the bonuses at the finish (10 minus 6, versus 6 minus 4)

 

[tobydawq]

Samu was never losing a sprint to Andy Schleck or Andreas Klöden until he suddenly did.

Klöden was second in a bunch sprint once in the Tour...

 

[RobertCrawley]

Pogi did a great job taking it to Jonas where Jonas is supposed to be strongest.

Jonas did a great job of pulling Pogi back after Pogi went ahead 8 seconds on the hill.

Great racing.

 

[Bonimenier]

He wouldn't even be up there together with Poga and Vinge to begin with.

Pogacar and Vingegaard would have been sprinting for 5 and 2 seconds.

 

[meat puppet]

Hmm, Jumbo paced all day just to be outnumbered by UAE in the end.

Pogacar was good but did not appear imperious today. I thought he had Vingo, but the stamina to keep going just was not there. So Perhaps Jumbo will still conclude this is the way, and perhaps they are right.

Vingo appears solid, so the question is whether Pogi is on a form upswing or whether the relative lack of base comes to bite him in the back in the third week.