- Feb 20, 2012
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By the way, it's not a Tour if I don't cringe at them finishing at an altiport ramp apparently.
Cooked? He just produced an elite ITT.
- Sep 20, 2017
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This is the one time where the altiport makes for a better finish than them taking the long way round up the road. Means there's something at least somewhat relevant after the big climb.
- Mar 19, 2009
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This stage was supposed to become one for the ages, now it was the TT that was of historic proportion. I really wish for devine intervention on behalf of Pogacar, as nothing else will work, but I don't believe in it.
Yet I think Pogacar will make this a very enjoyable stage by trying to gain back time somehow.
Yet I think Pogacar will make this a very enjoyable stage by trying to gain back time somehow.
- Feb 20, 2012
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The really pessimistic part of me wonders if UAE will try harder to protect Yates' 3rd spot than attack Vingegaard......
I think when people use the word 'cooked' in this context it means relative to Jonas. Obviously if Ving wasn't in the race Pog would be laughing all the way to Paris.
- Jun 30, 2022
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The really curious part of me wonders if you‘ve watched last year‘s Tour. Although, Stage 17 also finished at an Altiport and Pogačar tried very little.
- Feb 20, 2012
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They didn't have a 3rd place to piss away....The really curious part of me wonders if you‘ve watched last year‘s Tour. Although, Stage 17 also finished at an Altiport and Pogačar tried very little.
I guess Pog will attack but I don't think they'll make Yates do super stupid stuff.
Most likely Yates drops Rodriguez while pacing anyway
- Aug 3, 2015
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Emil Axelgaard seems to believe that Jumbo will carry on with their tactics pre ITT and strangle the race for Vingegaard like stage 14 over Joux Plane, but this time with a clear Jonas-advandtage. I hope so, because I dont think UAE are up for the task to make a real bloodbath, but could be mistaken.
I think Pog has his eyes on stage 20 in particular
- Mar 13, 2015
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Don't think so as I think UAE (the sponsor) want the winner of the Tour
If anything Adam Yates's podium could be sacrificed
Johan Bruyneel said the JV had this stage circled as the stage where they planned to win the Tour
Also said that Pog was tired today and Vinge cornering was so impressive he gained 3 seconds on Pog in the first corner alone
Simon Yates beat Pog's time on the climb ..
- Jun 30, 2022
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People are writing like the weather knows what to do based on the ITT. Yeah, there might be a rain shower, but the weather doesn‘t care about your hopes and dreams.
I really hope you are wrong on that one..... but i'll not be surprised as teams tend to protect those positions.
On the other hand, Pogacar is a former winner and should not settle for less than being nr. 1 at his age - therefore he should try something. Of course he can try to gain a little at the end and go for stage 20 - but I believe he/they will have to suprise Jumbo, if they will give it a real try.
- Feb 18, 2015
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And Ciccone beat Vingegaard on the climb, so what? Yates and Pogacar clearly timed their effort differently. I just don't see how it tells us anything to point at one particular section of the route when altogether Pogacar beat Yates comfortably.
- Aug 29, 2011
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He better channel that Fuente Dé energy. Though Vingegaard won't be surprised like Rodriguez was and mostly has a far far better team.
- Aug 13, 2011
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The whole team bar Kuss would have to get dropped by the first climb for a Fuente De I think.
- Mar 19, 2009
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- Jun 7, 2011
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- May 17, 2013
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That bike race is on my birthday. A Pinot win would be a nice present...
Pog doesn't need to make it all up tomorrow, but if he can't get a big chunk back, game over. Vingo was amazing today, I can't see Pogacar turn the tide. But he'll try. The best spot would be with 4-5 km to go. How much does he still have in the tank, though?
Pog doesn't need to make it all up tomorrow, but if he can't get a big chunk back, game over. Vingo was amazing today, I can't see Pogacar turn the tide. But he'll try. The best spot would be with 4-5 km to go. How much does he still have in the tank, though?
- Mar 20, 2022
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Pog is defeated. We all saw on his face, he is asking what he did wrong to lose again. Sooner or later, he will realize he doesn't have a chance of beating Vingegaard.
- Jun 7, 2011
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- Mar 13, 2015
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Because it demonstrates that Pog had run out of juice by the climb and its was not about any particular part of the TT . He didnt pace himself well
Ciccone was not a contender for overall and only road the climb fast so that is not a valid comparison
- Sep 20, 2017
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Pogacar put 32 seconds into Simon Yates between the KOM (at T3) and the finish, which was still uphill, and 31 seconds on the climb overall (i.e. T2 to finish). The only thing that Pogacar losing time to Yates on the KOM itself tells us is that the bike change cost a fair bit of time, and maybe also that Yates paced himself a little too fast on the KOM given that he only had the 13th time split on the final section, hence explaining why he beat Pogacar on the KOM. Not that Pogacar had run out of juice, otherwise he wouldn't have been second-fastest for both the T2-finish and T3-finish splits.
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