Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 4: Dax - Nogaro, 181.8k

[Peyroteo94]

Phillipsen is not the best sprinter in the world. His wins are very gifted by MVP.

 

[Breezy1985]

So how do all the "won't somebody please think of the children" people feel about today's super safe sprint circuit.

Soooooo much safer than yesterday.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Everyone agreed this parcours was safe, yes?

I thought so but it proved otherwise.

 

[glassmoon]

Not narrow at all, just riders squezing each other against the barriers

it was a joke

 

[Red Rick]

This is all because they never relegate anyone. Big wide road and it's closer to WWE than cycling.

 

[jmdirt]

JPx2!

 

[Mayomaniac]

lol those crashes.... narrow roads I guess.

chapeau MVP with Jasper

Sprinters gonna do stupid sprinter stuff...

 

[Red Rick]

I thought so but it proved otherwise.

It's almost like rider behavior matters.

 

[Breezy1985]

VDP best leadout in the world now?

The new Morkov

 

[postmanhat]

Absolute disgrace of a last 3K.
What was in the parcours builders’ effin’ minds?

If they can't ride safely round a motor-racing circuit with a 700m straight finish, then just stop all sprint stages.

 

[Eclipse]

MVDP just blew the doors off opening up that sprint.

Phillipsen delivering the goods again. A very hard to beat tag team

 

[saunaking]

Everyone agreed this parcours was safe, yes?

how did the parcours cause the crashes???? what are you talking about

 

[wheresmybrakes]

I think every one of those crashes was down to rider error. Maybe we should ban riders in races.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

One of the worst tour stages in recent memory.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Not narrow at all, just riders squezing each other against the barriers

well it wasn't the riders going for the sprints, just seemed like the people at back drifting into each other

 

[VorstM]

High speed and lots of room to pass other riders, makes for dangerous moves with crashes.

 

[Peyroteo94]

And WTF was Vingegaard doing? A GC rider cannot be in the front with 1km to go in a sprint stage. This type of racing brings a lot of chaos to the sprinters

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Jumbo should be riding for Laporte on these stages. Belgian pozzato useless again.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Rewatching that, this was really an insane leadout from MVDP. They both were like 10th position with 450 to go, he really nuked Philipsen to the front (gotta say, slightly questionable push on Girmay to do so but he looked like he wasn't about to sprint anyway).

 

[Boehmand]

it was a joke

Nothing wrong with the parcour.

Very wide road with plenty of space for everyone, and all the corners were relatively soft and wide.

The parcour is not to blame for the crashes, rider errors are.

 

[Rollthedice]

VDP best leadout in the world now?

Great teammate.

 

[DNP-Old]

how did the parcours cause the crashes????

By being too safe, if that makes sense. Huge roads, high speeds, no line forming due to no corners. The perfect recipe for riders to not feel any sense of thought and just push and pull each other.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Nice try by Caleb. He knew the wheel to follow and gave it a go. Lost by 10 inches.

 

[Volderke]

If they can't ride safely round a motor-racing circuit with a 700m straight finish, then just stop all sprint stages.

I’ve done races on circuits like this and those were always crash-infested. You simply cannot race with a peloton in curves like this. These aren’t motorcycles or racecars with slicks. The only way to have a somewhat safe finish on circuits is when there are hills (Spa Francorchamps, Tokyo Olympics), but not a flat parcours with 180 curves.

 

[Mayomaniac]

This is all because they never relegate anyone. Big wide road and it's closer to WWE than cycling.

Sometimes you just need to give them a little slap, as Sean Connery would have said.