Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 4: Dax - Nogaro, 181.8k

[Peyroteo94]

He was keeping himself safe, like any good GC captain would... we all saw all the chaos that ensued behind him.

I agree until the 3km mark. After that, he must leave front of the peloton. If all gc riders act like Vingegaard, sprint stages will be carnage all the time.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Two of the crashes including the Jakobsen crash was a touch of wheels. That's not on the parcours.

 

[ashhutch1997]

I've been saying this for years, these wide sprint finishes are far more dangerous than narrow twisty finishes. These narrow twisty finishes it is always strung out where's finishes like today allow people to bunch up.
On another note, one thing that drives me mad is when lead out riders just sit up infront of everyone, that last crash was caused by that.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I think we should accept that there is no safe route when the top sprinters in the world are going at each other at 70 km/h. Crashes are bound to happen. Wide roads, tight roads, no turns, many turns... They will happen.

Time to introduce airbags!

 

[Mayomaniac]

We clearly need to just ban boring sprint stages, they are obviousy too dangerous.

 

[ashhutch1997]

I'm honestly impressed there were no big pileup.
Yes, several crashes, but all just a few riders each.

Yeah was expecting a mass pile up

 

[Volderke]

Two of the crashes including the Jakobsen crash was a touch of wheels. That's not on the parcours.

It is though: on a parcours, all riders think they can take curves with 4-5 riders next to each other. This makes curves much more tricky in terms of wheels crossing.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

Are there any roads in the world about 200k long, with no bends or corners, just straight as a rule? Asking for a sprinter or two.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

"No one knows they have breaks on their bikes" - Pedersen

 

[RobertCrawley]

I've been saying this for years, these wide sprint finishes are far more dangerous than narrow twisty finishes. These narrow twisty finishes it is always strung out where's finishes like today allow people to bunch up.
On another note, one thing that drives me mad is when lead out riders just sit up infront of everyone, that last crash was caused by that.

It looked like a lot of teams wanted to play today, maybe because of the easy pace earlier, and that created a lot of chaos too.

 

[Boehmand]

What was Vingegaard doing at the front inside the last 2km? That’s just asking to crash with all the sprinters setting up around you

This guy just can't win with you people

Not leading out for the team in the finale, people *** about him.
Leading out for the team in the finale, and people *** about him.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Are there any roads in the world about 200k long, with no bends or corners, just straight as a rule? Asking for a sprinter or two.

That would be the most dangerous sprint stage possible.

 

[ashhutch1997]

It looked like a lot of teams wanted to play today, maybe because of the easy pace earlier, and that created a lot of chaos too.

Yeah, having 170 fresh riders going for it is always going to create carnage. Riders would have been switched off most of the day as well.

 

[Red Rick]

I think we should accept that there is no safe route when the top sprinters in the world are going at each other at 70 km/h. Crashes are bound to happen. Wide roads, tight roads, no turns, many turns... They will happen.

You put proper sanctions on breaking the rules in sprints. Now they just incentivize taking any stupid risk possible.

 

[Boehmand]

I agree until the 3km mark. After that, he must leave front of the peloton. If all gc riders act like Vingegaard, sprint stages will be carnage all the time.

LOL

2 days ago people were bitching about him staying off the front with 1 K to go

Also, gaps can still appear in such a chaotic finale, and Pogacar was far, far back... of course Vingegaard sticks to the front.

 

[Netserk]

Everyone agreed this parcours was safe, yes?

Yesterday was obviously the dangerous finish. Oh wait, are you telling me that riders' behaviour is the main cause of crashes? And that wide roads that allow riders to move up increase interactions and thus crashes?!

 

[Peyroteo94]

LOL

2 days ago people were bitching about him staying off the front with 1 K to go

Did you read sprint stages? Two days ago was not a sprint stage at all...

 

[saunaking]

Should the UNO-X guy be punished somehow?
Or is it just '*** happens'

 

[postmanhat]

Am really going to miss Cavendish's post-stage analysis of the sprint stages. Often, the best thing about them.

 

[Boehmand]

Did you read sprint stages? Two days ago was not a sprint stage at all...

I edited the post with another point, feel free to respond to that

 

[Peyroteo94]

This guy just can't win with you people

Not leading out for the team in the finale, people *** about him.
Leading out for the team in the finale, and people *** about him.

He wasn't leading sh##, C'mon...

 

[saunaking]

Adam Blythe dressed normal today, so Robbie wears a shirt suited for a construction site?

 

[ashhutch1997]

Should the UNO-X guy be punished somehow?
Or is it just '*** happens'

I think he should imo, leadout riders who just sit up in the sprint after doing their leadout is so dangerous..

 

[Norbea]

Thor Hushovd on Norwegian TV thinks Wærenskjold and Kristoff should change roles. He does look stronger. At least today.

 

[saunaking]

He wasn't leading sh##, C'mon...

He was, but Wout got lost