Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 9: Saint-Léonard-de-Noblat - Puy de Dôme, 182.4k

[RobertCrawley]

Someone's stupid flag fell on Lilian Calmejane.

 

[Trofonios]

1p for Philipsen. Can't doubt the commitment for green.

 

[Scarponi]

This is the best mountain stage to have a *** break on anyway. Satellite riders are practically useless here, there are barely any KOM points outside of the MTF, and the break being so weak decreases the chance they're still ahead in the final 4k and cause us to miss any attacks by Pogacar or Vingegaard.

That last point is the most vital imo. I’m

 

[Sciatic]

They do, it is still allowed. I hiked up from parking this spring and descended to the other side. But there were signs saying not to step out of path, at least in some places.

So I can definitely understand why spectators are not allowed, in addition to the narrow road. Nature reserve, and the hill is actually quite small in area (relatively). Would be chaos all over with the masses of spectators.

Thanks, good to know—it’s a fun hike with great reward when reaching the top. Probably less “fun” for the riders going up today!

 

[Barnacle Bill]

That flag waving was up there with Opi Omi in terms of idiocy causing a crash

 

[Rackham]

So will DSM take this up? Bardet will surely want to do well today before his home fans.
Not very likely, but a stalemate between Vinge and Pog on the last climb, could give Bardet a small chance.

UAE don't want to pull Jumbo, Jumbo don't want to pull UAE... & no one wants to pull Jumbo & UAE. So it's a stalemate.

This is what Pogačar's fightback on Thursday earned him, i.e. Jumbo now fear pulling him towards the bonus seconds (instead of drilling the stage like madmen). Meanwhile UAE won't pull 'just in case' Vingegaard drops Pog again.

Ergo IMO Rusty Woods will win the stage.

 

[DNP-Old]

FDJ let Demare at home so they could have another piece for the failing Gaudu. What do they do with it? Nothing. Pathetic.

 

[Trofonios]

So could TJV tactics be: let the break get a huge gap so that bonus seconds aren't not up for grabs and then start pulling, making it relatively hard, and then test Pog on Puy de Dome, if it doesn't work Pog won't get bonus seconds?

 

[RobertCrawley]

So could TJV tactics be: let the break get a huge gap so that bonus seconds aren't not up for graps and then start pulling, making it relatively hard, and then test Pog on Puy de Dome, if it doesn't work Pog won't get bonus at least?

I think Jumbo has to make this race hard at some point, but I don't know how or when.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

That flag waving was up there with Opi Omi in terms of idiocy causing a crash

Who is Opi Omi? In German thats a deminutive form of Grandma (Omi) and Grandpa (Opi).

 

[pelotonIQ]

So could TJV tactics be: let the break get a huge gap so that bonus seconds aren't not up for grabs and then start pulling, making it relatively hard, and then test Pog on Puy de Dome, if it doesn't work Pog won't get bonus seconds at least?

I don't think UAE cares about bonus seconds on this stage.

Burn riders for maybe a 4 second bonus?

 

[Rackham]

Who is Opi Omi? In German thats a deminutive form of Grandma (Omi) and Grandpa (Opi).

Tour de France 2021, stage 1:

 

[Peyroteo94]

Who is Opi Omi? In German thats a deminutive form of Grandma (Omi) and Grandpa (Opi).

A fan who put down an all peloton (e.g. Tony Martin) in a flat stage with a card paper written with Opi Omi.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Worse than the Opi Omi is the Women in yellow looking to the other side and taking down half of the peloton in 2011, ruining Contador's GC.

 

[RobertCrawley]

A fan who put down an all peloton (e.g. Tony Martin) in a flat stage with a card paper written with Opi Omi.

She crashed Der Panzerwagon and several racers had to abandon.

 

[HelloDolly]

Hindley saying he is bidding his time till the 3rd week when he is strongest

 

[Trofonios]

I don't think UAE cares about bonus seconds on this stage.

Burn riders for maybe a 4 second bonus?

Didn't care so much that they were ready to ride hard. TJV thought, we won't make the job for UAE, get the bonus seconds out of the way, then ride. If Vingegaard can't drop Pog, it doesn't matter if Pog wins a sprint between them.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Phil: "They are racing to their destiny across the beautiful countryside of France."

 

[RobertCrawley]

Hindley saying he is bidding his time till the 3rd week when he is strongest

When he's at his peak.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Don't care so much that they were ready to ride hard. TJV thought, we won't make the job for UAE, get the bonus seconds out of the way, then ride. If Vingegaard can't drop Pog, it doesn't matter if Pog wins a sprint between them.

If anything UAE was only ready to stop Wout from going in the break. Even if let's say the break gets caught, Poga and Vinge are the 2 strongest riders so the only bonus Poga could get/lose is 4 seconds which isn't worth spending your whole team bringing back the breakaway.

Finally some smart racing by UAE, eh?

 

[Rackham]

Hindley saying he is bidding his time till the 3rd week when he is strongest

Imagine the scenario when Hindley starts dropping both Vingegaard & Pog in week 3!

 

[Boehmand]

Jumbo blinked first, now pulling the peloton, as the gap reached 10 minutes.

Bora right behind, it will be interesting to see if they take part in the work.

UAE chilling further back.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Imagine the scenario when Hindley starts dropping both Vingegaard & Pog in week 3!

And then you will wake up from your dreams.

 

[Trofonios]

Imagine the scenario when Hindley starts dropping both Vingegaard & Pog in week 3!

Would give Remco a hell of boost! Must be a bit demoralizing watching Pog and Vingegaard.

 

[Pantani_lives]

No team in the leading group has won a stage yet in this Tour.