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- Jun 11, 2021
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Honestly very similar to the Giro. Good start, then quite uneventful until the end of week 2 followed by almost exclusively GC stages until the end with plenty of decent but ultimately subpar designed MTFs.
Positive is that the backloading dynamics might work well here with Vingegaard for once not already being in yellow after 1,5 weeks. Negative is that similar to the Giro we might have nothing happening for 1,5 weeks after a good start if the Gravel stage flops and while I like stage 15 plenty of mountain stages scream group ride until the last 20 minutes.
Positive is that the backloading dynamics might work well here with Vingegaard for once not already being in yellow after 1,5 weeks. Negative is that similar to the Giro we might have nothing happening for 1,5 weeks after a good start if the Gravel stage flops and while I like stage 15 plenty of mountain stages scream group ride until the last 20 minutes.
- Feb 8, 2023
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This course definitely reflects the hyper-aggressive racing we’ve seen at the Tour the last few years. If 2024 is raced in the same fashion, a lot of the stages could be spectacular - and the backloading won’t have too much of an effect. If things are ridden more conservatively, however, a lot of these are going to be rather boring.
I do wish we could’ve had some more serious mountain action in the first week, even at the expense of one of the third week mountain stages. That’s the most obvious improvement to be made on the route as a whole.
I do wish we could’ve had some more serious mountain action in the first week, even at the expense of one of the third week mountain stages. That’s the most obvious improvement to be made on the route as a whole.
- Jun 11, 2021
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On grupetto they are trying to make the profiles:
http://legruppetto.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17756&start=2300
stage 8 (according to rbl85)
stage 18 (according to rbl85)
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- Nov 16, 2013
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- Apr 16, 2009
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- Jan 29, 2021
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As a vingegaard fan, i like the route. It's suits him better than the route of this year, and it will be even more difficult specially to pogacar being able to beat him.
As a cycling fan, i don't like this route. It's too backloaded. They did the same mistake that the Giro organization does.
This route is missing a proper mountain stage between stage 4 and stage 11. Gravel stages doesn't make sense in a GT.
Fortunately with pogacar, Vingegaard, remco, van der poel even with a bad route, there's always entertainment.
Positive points- the stage of lioran is a very good medium mountain stage, the stage of superdevoluy is nice, the return of cime de la bonette, the stage with finish on plateau de beille, the last TT.
Negative points-they messed up on the stage of cime de la bonette. They should finish in super sauze instead of isola 2000 for benefiting long range attacks on la bonette, but i bet jumbo will do something with Vingegaard on la cime de la bonette.
It was better a mountain finish on Valmeinier instead of la valloire.
Pla de adet's stage has a bad design. They should had done the combo portillon-peyresourde-val azet-pla d'adet.
Too many flat stages.
As a cycling fan, i don't like this route. It's too backloaded. They did the same mistake that the Giro organization does.
This route is missing a proper mountain stage between stage 4 and stage 11. Gravel stages doesn't make sense in a GT.
Fortunately with pogacar, Vingegaard, remco, van der poel even with a bad route, there's always entertainment.
Positive points- the stage of lioran is a very good medium mountain stage, the stage of superdevoluy is nice, the return of cime de la bonette, the stage with finish on plateau de beille, the last TT.
Negative points-they messed up on the stage of cime de la bonette. They should finish in super sauze instead of isola 2000 for benefiting long range attacks on la bonette, but i bet jumbo will do something with Vingegaard on la cime de la bonette.
It was better a mountain finish on Valmeinier instead of la valloire.
Pla de adet's stage has a bad design. They should had done the combo portillon-peyresourde-val azet-pla d'adet.
Too many flat stages.
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I would think that a TT in Nice at the end of July, the heat m
Could have a big impact on performance.
- Apr 16, 2009
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Can Someone explain to me what they were trying to do when they designed Stage 15, LOUDENVIELLE > PLATEAU DE BEILLE.
That is the weirdest design I ever seen.
That is the weirdest design I ever seen.
- May 4, 2011
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Can Someone explain to me what they were trying to do when they designed Stage 15, LOUDENVIELLE > PLATEAU DE BEILLE.
That is the weirdest design I ever seen.
Yeah, it's bad. It sort of makes sense if you take the start and finish as a given. They didn't want to go > 5000m of elevation gain most likely.
- Jul 27, 2023
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Apparently, the goal was to design a profile that is mirror-symmetric. Looks kind of stylish.Can Someone explain to me what they were trying to do when they designed Stage 15, LOUDENVIELLE > PLATEAU DE BEILLE.
That is the weirdest design I ever seen.
Maybe there will be a strong group froming at Col the Mente. I guess in 1996 nobody expected beforehand stage 18 (to Papmplona) to decide about the top 8 in the GC, but it was a very very good stage as it turned out.
The last ITT is too hard for me. I'd rather a flat 10k around Nice and a harder TT earlier, to prevent anyone from resting on their TT chops in the last week.
Other than that, not bad. PdB is a hard MTF that's perfectly capable of delivering good racing by itself, so putting it at the end of a 198km stage after another mountain stage with a bunch of climbs on the way is about the way to handle it.
Other than that, not bad. PdB is a hard MTF that's perfectly capable of delivering good racing by itself, so putting it at the end of a 198km stage after another mountain stage with a bunch of climbs on the way is about the way to handle it.
- Jul 3, 2022
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Agree. I don't like the lottery with punctures, although the tubeless tires make that less of an issue these days.
- Jul 3, 2022
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It's backloaded, but stage 4 will likely be a sort out the wheat from the chaff pretty early on.
- Jul 3, 2022
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I agree. Maybe we'll have a Lemond-Fignon situation again. The city of Nice certainly knows how to put on a bike race.
- Jul 3, 2022
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Can Someone explain to me what they were trying to do when they designed Stage 15, LOUDENVIELLE > PLATEAU DE BEILLE.
That is the weirdest design I ever seen.
I'm just happy Gouvenou actually allowed a 200km mountain stage
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