Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 9: Troyes > Troyes, 199.0 km

[AmRacer]

Mateo saved Jonas Tour.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Watching this season, Im kinda sad Jorgenson left Movistar to join the dark side. Phenomenal rider

 

[Netserk]

Vingegaard is clearly suffering here. Well defended so far, mostly eminent support.

 

[Sciatic]

That front grp had some seriously strong dudes.

 

[Ripper]

Vingegaard doesn't care about Evenepoel and Roglic

There's zero impetus for him or his dom to pull here, Pogacar is wasting energy still going. Wtf are some of you on about.

Yup!

 

[Blobs]

There is no execuse for what jumbo and jonas did here. They have Evenpoel back and roglic and they are 2v1 and he still cant go around Theres nothing anyone can say to make that make sense. Ridiculous

You're letting your hatred for Vingegaard blind you. [[content deleted: uncivil]] What they are doing makes perfect sense.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

"How dare Visma ride smart in their attempt to win this race? Their main priority should be entertaining me and helping Pog"

-Every Pogacar fan

Most of us watch for entertainment, so even when we know why they're doing what they're doing, that doesn't mean we can't voice displeasure at the way it's playing out. It's a paradox of sport - these people aren't paid to be entertainers but most of the viewers are watching for entertainment. For a lot of spectators, losing in an exciting manner is greater than winning in a boring manner. Hence why riders like Rui Costa and Simon Gerrans are viewed negatively, while there remains a cult of Mikel Landa to this day.

 

[iBanesto]

You don’t say?

I did say it.

 

[Gigs_98]

Really curious if MvdP has bluffed so far and completely nukes the final section

 

[scribers]

It would be insane if pogi had anything left for another attack

 

[Libertine Seguros]

You're letting your hatred for Vingegaard blind you. [[content deleted]]. What they are doing makes perfect sense.

It makes sense, but I wouldn't say perfect sense; I do however think that there were more optimal outcomes possible if they did contribute at least a little.

 

[Unchained]

Big game in the front!! Nobody wants to take a pull!!MVdP coming for the party!!

 

[Blobs]

so when they are 2v1 with pogacra and can gain time on roglic and evnepoel thats not a ideal scenario? like what the fck are u saying. haha it make no sense

No, they believe Pogacar is the man to beat.

Edit: And they're obviously right too

 

[Peyroteo94]

Now, we know why Vingegaard brought this team full of classics riders

 

[dazaau]

Group one may attack themselves out of a win

 

[Devil's Elbow]

There's one reason for Vingeagaard to have Jorgenson pull and that's to appease the fans. It has 0 benefit to him.

And, as we all know, Visma would never change their tactics to appease fans and Sepp Kuss won his Vuelta entirely on merit.

 

[ppanther92]

There's one reason for Vingeagaard to have Jorgenson pull and that's to appease the fans. It has 0 benefit to him.

Distance Evenepoel without expending any turns for Vingegaard?

After all, Remco is pulling. Tadej is pulling. Jonas doesn't have to if Matteo is there taking pulls on his behalf.

 

[Gigs_98]

There's one reason for Vingeagaard to have Jorgenson pull and that's to appease the fans. It has 0 benefit to him.

Do you believe there is 0 benefit to get time on Roglic, Evenepoel and the other UAE boys?

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Serious data analysis being done in the visma command vehicle to determine optimal tactic

The AI agrees with me...that stuff is getting scary smart...

 

[Unchained]

Costa!! Girmay!!

 

[Peyroteo94]

It would be insane if pogi had anything left for another attack

He has one left and will drop Vingegaard again.

 

[Heston]

Calling Vinge boring for not attacking here is like calling Cavendish boring for not attacking on Galibier.

 

[postmanhat]

This will probably be the most entertaining stage of the Tour. GTs need more of them, not less.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Movistar asleep again.

 

[Brullnux]

Distance Evenepoel without expending any turns for Vingegaard?

After all, Remco is pulling. Tadej is pulling. Jonas doesn't have to if Matteo is there taking pulls on his behalf.

But what is the point in this? Distance Remco, who Vingegaard will likely gap on the mountains anyway, tire out Jorgensen and risk a Pogacar 10km TT? Vingegaard is right at the limit, if he loses support of Jorgensen through trying to distance Remco he leaves himself pretty exposed to Pogacar.