Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 9: Troyes > Troyes, 199.0 km

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I dont hate vingegaard at all but how can anyone support this kind of racing it nothing else than that :tearsofjoy: I guess its a reason he has two fans outside danmark this was honestly just sad to watch. He shoulda pulled with Evenpoel and Pogacar and you cant convice me otherwice. You might boring racing I like offensive racing
He has no need to today. It’s the terrain favored by Remco and Pogi compared to Jonas, ofc he ain’t going to pull. I guess you haven’t watched 2022 or 2023 as well.
 
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I dont hate vingegaard at all but how can anyone support this kind of racing it nothing else than that :tearsofjoy: I guess its a reason he has two fans outside danmark this was honestly just sad to watch. He shoulda pulled with Evenpoel and Pogacar and you cant convice me otherwice. You might boring racing I like offensive racing
You prefer stupid kamikaze racing. Other people can appreciate intelligent racing.

Different strokes.
 
This is probably evidence of the 2013-ness of this.

From 120km to 70km to go, ***** race. From 70km home, it's all fallen apart. And a legion of fans arguing that the best time to race defensively and ensure you don't contribute is when you outnumber the race leader in an attack and have distanced all of the rest of your competition and getting upset at people suggesting that, in fact, deliberately killing a move that you only stand to gain from unless you completely screw it up, in order to ensure that you make sure everybody comes in on the same time, is in fact not the smartest move for a team who lost the Tour de France on the penultimate day four years ago doing this exact thing.
This point might have made sense if the context of Vinge's crash didn't exist.
 
This is probably evidence of the 2013-ness of this.

From 120km to 70km to go, ***** race. From 70km home, it's all fallen apart. And a legion of fans arguing that the best time to race defensively and ensure you don't contribute is when you outnumber the race leader in an attack and have distanced all of the rest of your competition and getting upset at people suggesting that, in fact, deliberately killing a move that you only stand to gain from unless you completely screw it up, in order to ensure that you make sure everybody comes in on the same time, is in fact not the smartest move for a team who lost the Tour de France on the penultimate day four years ago doing this exact thing.
He gains more from getting into Pogacar's head.
 
They are hypocrits as per usual.

Same people who were saying UAE should pulled earlier when Roglic was behind, now saying the complete opposite in this case.
Maybe you're talking about a specific poster or two, but I certainly don't see a lot of hypocrisy going on. On terrain such as this, of course they're not going to help Toddly. If they work with him, he will pick an opportune moment to jump away when Matteo is having a moment of weakness, perhaps after a pull, and it is not like Viggomort has the rapid acceleration to be immediately on the wheel.

I think the Visma strategy from the outset was to look at this as more or less as an energy conservation stage, and not to lose any time. And one could say with about 5 km left, that their strategy appears to be working.

Interestingly, we have seen that Remco has not maintained good awareness on where Toddly is in a few of the gravel sectors. Remco has improved to the gravel riding quite a bit, but I suspect it takes so much focus for him that it impacts his situational awareness of other racers.
 
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