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Two good ways to order a route with both Finestre and Granon, one south to north, one north to south;

Stage n: ??? - Gap (obligatory if they enter the Alps from the south)
Stage n+1: Embrun or Gap - Granon (Vars, Izoard)
Stage n+2: Briançon - Sestrière (Galibier, Mont Cenis, Finestre)
(transfer through the Fréjus tunnel)
Stage n+3: Modane or Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne - somewhere further north in the Alps

Stage n: ??? - Granon (Galibier)
Stage n+1: Briançon - Sestrière (either the same route as in the previous example, or if you don't want to double up on climbs, Izoard, Montgenèvre, Finestre)
Stage n+2: Pinerolo - southern French Alps (e.g. Lombarde - Bonette - Jausiers finish like in 2008)
 
Let's see how Remco does this year.

If so, we may very well have a Pantani vs Indurain-like race (Remco the Indurain, Vingo the Pantani)
Mate, Vingo is a better TT rider than what Pantani was.

And who are Roglic and Pogacar?

The differences in the first TT will not be high between the favourites, very different from a world championships TT.
 
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Why would you hope for those two climbs to be used together? The only scenario where Finestre isn't wasted is if the race explodes with like 100k to go, in which case the Granon would be wasted.

You know you can also wish for a queen stage to the Granon before a short "Briancon-Montgenevre-Finestre-Sestriere" stage. That would be way better imo.
 
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what is the category beyond HC?

Whatever that is, the Finestre gets it. Single hardest climb in cycling
No longer, I'm afraid.

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APM coefficient of 688, to Finestre's 487.

While the coefficient is flawed (it does not have a means to take altitude or surface into account, so Finestre ranks below Zoncolan, Angliru, Hochtor and Gamoniteiro), I do believe that 18km at 11% with large brick-paved sections and ramps of over 20% - being battered by the wind coming in from the coast as well - gives it the edge.
 
No longer, I'm afraid.

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APM coefficient of 688, to Finestre's 487.

While the coefficient is flawed (it does not have a means to take altitude or surface into account, so Finestre ranks below Zoncolan, Angliru, Hochtor and Gamoniteiro), I do believe that 18km at 11% with large brick-paved sections and ramps of over 20% - being battered by the wind coming in from the coast as well - gives it the edge.

what climb is that?

The rankings I have seen of Finestre (albeit more than 10 years ago) puts it well harder than Mortirolo, Zoncolon, and Angliru. Mainly due to the length, the constant gradient providing no rest, as well as the final 8km being gravel. The climb you posted likely would be harder, however
 
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what climb is that?

The rankings I have seen of Finestre (albeit more than 10 years ago) puts it well harder than Mortirolo, Zoncolon, and Angliru. Mainly due to the length, the constant gradient providing no rest, as well as the final 8km being gravel. The climb you posted likely would be harder, however
Babadag in Turkey. Raced last year in Tour of Turkey-
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Two good ways to order a route with both Finestre and Granon, one south to north, one north to south;

Stage n: ??? - Gap (obligatory if they enter the Alps from the south)
Stage n+1: Embrun or Gap - Granon (Vars, Izoard)
Stage n+2: Briançon - Sestrière (Galibier, Mont Cenis, Finestre)
(transfer through the Fréjus tunnel)
Stage n+3: Modane or Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne - somewhere further north in the Alps

Stage n: ??? - Granon (Galibier)
Stage n+1: Briançon - Sestrière (either the same route as in the previous example, or if you don't want to double up on climbs, Izoard, Montgenèvre, Finestre)
Stage n+2: Pinerolo - southern French Alps (e.g. Lombarde - Bonette - Jausiers finish like in 2008)
Vars, Izoard, Granon would be great, though I would not be surprised if they skip Vars in that case.

My dream Finestre stage is with Sestriere, Montgenevre and downhill finish in Briancon.

IMO 2018 showed the difference in how hard you need to make the race before Finestre.
 
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