There you go - a "Lenny Martinez friendly tour" - the French media will need a hero to promote.The mont ventoux and col du granon will be back, i don't know how it is a remco friendly tour.
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There you go - a "Lenny Martinez friendly tour" - the French media will need a hero to promote.The mont ventoux and col du granon will be back, i don't know how it is a remco friendly tour.
Tbf they were supposed to have a MTF 2016, but it got moved to Chalet Reynard because of the wind. You would have thought they might have returned quicker than 2021 though, like they did when Tignes got cancelled. Also, given they've pedestrianized the summit, it possible any more?Honestly, it's pretty crazy that in 2025 it will have been 12 years since a mtf on top of the Ventoux. I know it's not 12 years without the Ventoux at all, but still.
Tbf they were supposed to have a MTF 2016, but it got moved to Chalet Reynard because of the wind. You would have thought they might have returned quicker than 2021 though, like they did when Tignes got cancelled. Also, given they've pedestrianized the summit, it possible any more?
Then again they finished up Puy du Dome so it's probably still possible.
I know, but I meant finish up there, with the lack of space plus infustrcture ect..they literally did a double Ventoux in 2021m including the part over the pedestrian summit
Could we be back to a '90s design where the route is all smoke and mirrors week one, pure crap, and a long ITT creates the first real gaps? Luxembourg '92 on stage 9, with different riders, and unlike '92, the big cats can all perform well in an ITT.
The return of a TdF 55-60 km ITT? I kinda like it!
After all these years I know better: someway, somehow, ASO will F the design up. But I also know that in some sort of a weird way that was not part of the plan, it will deliver. ...something...as usual. What? No idea...
Tadej Pogacar will win this bike race and I will give it an 8. That, I know.
I know, but I meant finish up there, with the lack of space plus infustrcture ect..
Are there rumours on these for 2025? A return of Granon would be very nice.The mont ventoux and col du granon will be back,
Tbh I actually really liked the design of that stage.Think the lack of finish at the top was more Gouvenou being Gouvenou
At least we ended up with a ~200km mountain stage out of it, however. His once every 5 year 200km mountain stage
@Red Rick popping the champagne reading this.A classic "modern" TDF route?
Peyragudes MTF
Mont Ventoux MTF
Alpe d'Huez MTF
Super Planche des Belles Filles
Something other in the Pyrenees like a Tourmalet-Hautacam combo.
I think that would be called "Lenny Martinez friendly" enough. Just make sure there's hardly any ITT kms.A classic "modern" TDF route?
Peyragudes MTF
Mont Ventoux MTF
Alpe d'Huez MTF
Super Planche des Belles Filles
Something other in the Pyrenees like a Tourmalet-Hautacam combo.
Let's just enjoy Roglic's 2024 TdF victory and not worry about 2025.
Looks like the Denmark Grand Depart but without the enormous crowds lining the entire route.Its not a great start of the Tour like expected but at least the second stage should give us some entertainment, looks really good for Van der Poel too.
I still hope for some cobbles and a 'long' flat TT during the first week otherwise it will be boring.
Is this the same route as the 2012 stage that was won by Sagan? Looks similar.Although in general it's a bit disappointing that 2 out of 3 stages will be a snooze or crash fest, at least stage 2 is very decent:
The hills from Cote de Cavron-Saint-Martin:
Cote de Cavron-Saint-Martin (actualy called La Campigneul)
Cote du Haute Pichot (actually the Mont Violette):
Cote de Saint-Etienne-au-Mont (Actually Mont Ecault):
Cote d'outreau (Rue du Havet):
the finish:
No, completely different. At least that's how the two stages have been mapped on La Flamme Rouge.Is this the same route as the 2012 stage that was won by Sagan? Looks similar.