Tour de France Tour de France 2025, Stage 1: Lille – Lille (184.9k)

[Netserk]

What value does Van Aert bring to the race???

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Terrible day by Martinez. Likely an illness. If this was a mountain stage he could even be OTL.

He was hopeless in the Dauphine until suddenly winning a stage out of nowhere

 

[titan31]

You look at the size of that group two and you've got multiple sprinters or GC guys with teammates. Really shameful they couldn't bring that back. There's plenty of guys there who should have been chasing

 

[tobydawq]

What value does Van Aert bring to the race???

Not much if he still has allergy for the fight for position.

 

[noob]

Jorgensen colouring is gorgeous!

 

[AmRacer]

What value does Van Aert bring to the race???

Wait for the mountains

 

[solo80k]

Who besides Pog and Jonas survived the split? Roglic, Remco, Almeida, Lipowitz all lost time.

 

[Ulfhednar]

It's basic realism.

Maybe for a fan of the sport...but any pro that doesn't think he is gonna win it all never will win anything. In Rog's and Remco's minds they are there to win...except today shows they are severely outclassed both tactically and team wise.

 

[tobydawq]

You look at the size of that group two and you've got multiple sprinters or GC guys with teammates. Really shameful they couldn't bring that back. There's plenty of guys there who should have been chasing

Yeah, I really don't understand what happened, either. Bizarre.

 

[movingtarget]

Bora looked terrible in the Giro. So no surprise.

 

[JR1012]

Adam Yates 5 minutes behind. Another rider not going for the top 10.

Same goes for Simon Yates +6:31.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Who besides Pog and Jonas survived the split? Roglic, Remco, Almeida, Lipowitz all lost time.

Vauquelin, Halland Johannessen, Jorgenson, Mas

 

[tobydawq]

It's basic realism.

And also 100% not the reason behind what happened...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

What value does Van Aert bring to the race???

Maybe a huge pull for Vingegaard before the final climb of stage 18 (or 19) during a long-range attack by the Dane?

 

[Rackham]

That's just sad if Bora and Roglic give up just like that.

They just gave Mas 38 seconds gratis. Yeah it's Mas but what if he's got his Vuelta climbing legs here? It's stupid.

I mean I get it, i.e. neither Evenepoel nor Rog are favorites for the Tour. So yeah those teams take a sprinter to 'diversify' their options but come on, when the stage win is done for at least get everyone on the front to limit the time loss. It's like the team cars just had no idea (or didn't really care) about what was going on.

Just totally passive.

 

[ppanther92]

Who besides Pog and Jonas survived the split? Roglic, Remco, Almeida, Lipowitz all lost time.

Mas, Jorgenson, Vauquelin, Johannessen, Blackmore (if we take GC riders very wide)

 

[kingjr]

39 seconds. Totally avoidable. Love the crosswinds but not todays result

Don't know, battle for third may be more interesting now.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

...I was solely commenting on the fact that Philipsen won...it's always a bad day for me, when that happens.

Even worse, I have to see him in yellow...for one day, at least.

 

[AmRacer]

Same goes for Simon Yates +6:31.

Simon will be in the first mountain stage break

 

[Unchained]

What value does Van Aert bring to the race???

You see multiple teams with missed assignments! When you have working mules as soon as gap opened, you see slender echelon with front group rolling away, it was do or die right then for 3,4 teams and nobody closed it, Wout finished with gas in the tank, Jorgenson ends up finishing where Jonas should have been.. Now all the sudden those 2 guys crashing themselves in the middle of an empty street doesn't look so stupid..

 

[Red Rick]

And also 100% not the reason behind what happened...

It's pretty clear nobody believes in beating Vingegaard or Pogacar, which is part the reason the chase is a complete clown show.

 

[fenns]

Really poor from Roglic and Remco - they are such betas. How difficult was it to realise you needed to be near the front.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Mas, Jorgenson, Vauquelin, Johannessen, Blackmore (if we take GC riders very wide)

Oh, and O‘Connor when the jury gets around to it.

 

[titan31]

This time loss is also going to be an issue for Remco getting into yellow after the TT. Assumed he would be in after that stage, but now it's a bit unlikely.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

If only one of Pogi or Vingo were here, the Tour would be essentially over already.
If neither Pogi nor Vingo were here, you'd have a pillow fight among tactically incompetent teams and their GC contenders.
But they're both here, so we have a good battle.